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DaHamentashenkid
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Not what I was hoping for.
#22284670 - 09/24/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So about 2.5 hours ago I ingested 4 grams ground into powder mixed with one pint of orange juice.I let that sit for about an hour before drinking. The come up was fast. I felt the initial effects in about twenty minutes and there was rapid onset after. I won't get into specifics I'm sure we are all aware of the effects of mushrooms. However about an hour in I got bored and kind of gave up on the trip. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Are you on any medication? Also, what was your diet today and what is your physical build (height and weight). How old are the mushrooms, what was the source, and how have they been stored? What was your diet leading up to the trip in the past 3 days?
All of these things will help to answer your question.
In general however, no. That's not a normal response to a 4 gram trip.
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No meds. 5'9" 225# ate an orange and a pull and peel cheese stick about two hours before. I grew them myself and they were dried and stored under proper conditions. Probably a week old. I've eaten lightly the last few days in anticipation for this dose.
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Hmm. Those aren't typical results.
I did have one experience a few months ago where I also had 4 grams under similar conditions and did not trip at all really. Then, after giving up on hope of tripping, I went and ate a meal. The meal caused the mushrooms in my stomach to start metabolizing and I TRIPPED BALLS. Consider having a glass of juice or some more fruit. That can potentiate the dose.
Good luck. Not normal results though.
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Yea that's happened to me a couple times. A high tolerance combined with fast metabolism and empty stomach is one way. Also, some settings especially places you've tripped at several times, or places you would be bored at while sober can kill a trip, or not having something compelling to do while tripping can bring you out of it in my experience. Potency varies alot in shrooms too if you used multispore syringes to grow
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: geffer]
#22285855 - 09/24/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm that is odd. Try keeping your eyes closed during comeup and peek. Dark room. Preferably the mindfold for me. You should have at least felt something physically, if not any visuals with open eyes...
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champinhom
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DaHamentashenkid said: So about 2.5 hours ago I ingested 4 grams ground into powder mixed with one pint of orange juice.I let that sit for about an hour before drinking. The come up was fast. I felt the initial effects in about twenty minutes and there was rapid onset after. I won't get into specifics I'm sure we are all aware of the effects of mushrooms. However about an hour in I got bored and kind of gave up on the trip. Has this happened to anyone else?
Two questions: 1) When was the last time you did mushrooms? 2) What was the variety of cube?
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Aureus
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TheScientificMethod said: Hmm. Those aren't typical results.
I did have one experience a few months ago where I also had 4 grams under similar conditions and did not trip at all really. Then, after giving up on hope of tripping, I went and ate a meal. The meal caused the mushrooms in my stomach to start metabolizing and I TRIPPED BALLS. Consider having a glass of juice or some more fruit. That can potentiate the dose.
Good luck. Not normal results though.
Wow this has already happened with me. Did you take any flu medication before eating the mushrooms?
Edited by Aureus (09/25/15 04:02 AM)
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Aureus
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DaHamentashenkid said: So about 2.5 hours ago I ingested 4 grams ground into powder mixed with one pint of orange juice.I let that sit for about an hour before drinking. The come up was fast. I felt the initial effects in about twenty minutes and there was rapid onset after. I won't get into specifics I'm sure we are all aware of the effects of mushrooms. However about an hour in I got bored and kind of gave up on the trip. Has this happened to anyone else?
You're so lucky it didn't work dude, you don't wanna know what will happen if you mix 4 grams with vitamin C.
Edited by Aureus (09/24/15 09:34 PM)
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: Aureus]
#22286368 - 09/24/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not a normal trip, i would say it would of been a level 3, i like the next level where things start morphing, my cat turned into a gnome looking thing once, i thought it was intense.
I was on more than 4g, and had a tolerance.
I have also had a tolerance and taken shrooms 5/7 days that week and 10g did little to nothing, it was like i took 1.5g of shrooms, little visuals, and a hour and half later I was pissed and gave up. Thats only thing I have similar, but if i took 4g with oj/lemon tek I would be blasted off my ass for hours.
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: LSDollar]
#22286422 - 09/24/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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are you sure they were good quality? I have had that happen to me with some sketchy shrooms I got at a festival, they basically just gave out after 2 hours. Shortest mushroom ever.
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: LSDollar]
#22287023 - 09/25/15 03:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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mirraco said: I have also had a tolerance and taken shrooms 5/7 days that week and 10g did little to nothing, it was like i took 1.5g of shrooms, little visuals, and a hour and half later I was pissed and gave up. Thats only thing I have similar, but if i took 4g with oj/lemon tek I would be blasted off my ass for hours.
There's no such thing as tolorence when it comes to psilocybin and vitamin C. You can trip several days in a row and the intensity is always the same. This is also true with smoked psilocin freebase.
Edited by Aureus (09/25/15 04:17 AM)
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: Heisencybin]
#22287037 - 09/25/15 03:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heisencybin said: Hmm that is odd. Try keeping your eyes closed during comeup and peek. Dark room. Preferably the mindfold for me. You should have at least felt something physically, if not any visuals with open eyes...
No I got some really hard core 3d closed eye visuals for a good hour. It's just that after a while I got bored. It felt like I would approach ego death and detachment but my subconscious would step in before total ego death and pull me back to reality.
Edited by DaHamentashenkid (09/25/15 03:50 AM)
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: champinhom]
#22287043 - 09/25/15 03:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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DaHamentashenkid said: So about 2.5 hours ago I ingested 4 grams ground into powder mixed with one pint of orange juice.I let that sit for about an hour before drinking. The come up was fast. I felt the initial effects in about twenty minutes and there was rapid onset after. I won't get into specifics I'm sure we are all aware of the effects of mushrooms. However about an hour in I got bored and kind of gave up on the trip. Has this happened to anyone else?
Two questions: 1) When was the last time you did mushrooms? 2) What was the variety of cube?
Probably a month ago when I harvested the first flush of this run. I ate 2.5 grams, which is my base line for determining potency, and that was much more intense. They were psilocybe cubensis Mexican stain.
Edited by DaHamentashenkid (09/25/15 03:51 AM)
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: Aureus]
#22287044 - 09/25/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheScientificMethod said: Hmm. Those aren't typical results.
I did have one experience a few months ago where I also had 4 grams under similar conditions and did not trip at all really. Then, after giving up on hope of tripping, I went and ate a meal. The meal caused the mushrooms in my stomach to start metabolizing and I TRIPPED BALLS. Consider having a glass of juice or some more fruit. That can potentiate the dose.
Good luck. Not normal results though.
Wow this has already happened with me me. Did you take any flu medication before eating the mushrooms?
No medication.
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: Aureus]
#22287050 - 09/25/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aureus said:
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mirraco said: I have also had a tolerance and taken shrooms 5/7 days that week and 10g did little to nothing, it was like i took 1.5g of shrooms, little visuals, and a hour and half later I was pissed and gave up. Thats only thing I have similar, but if i took 4g with oj/lemon tek I would be blasted off my ass for hours.
There's no such thing as tolorence when it comes to psilocybin and vitamin C. You can trip several days in a row and the intensity is always the same. The same is true for smoked psilocybin freebase.
So this is totally false. It's well known with psychedelics that tolerance builds to a noticeable level within hours of ingestion. That's why in order to trip multiple days in a row, or within a day or two, you have to ingest substantially more to feel the same effects. As far as the orange juice, it's the citric acid that breaks down the psilocybin into psilocyn, not the vitamin c. As far as anything I can remember reading, vitamin c has a negligible, if any effect at all on the experience.
Edited by DaHamentashenkid (09/25/15 03:56 AM)
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One of the possible problems with various lemon/tea teks is that it comes on strong and can be very short acting. I think I know what you mean by getting bored, especially if your trying to watch the back of your eyelids. When my visions start to fade I might try sitting with it "harder" or longer, but at some point I guess I give up. Thats when I'll get a notebook and write down some ideas or pick up my ukulele and jam.
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Aureus
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Vitamin C doesn't convert psilocybin into psilocin, that's just a myth made up by people who don't understand how it works. What actualy makes the conversion is our intestinal alkaline phosphatase. Vitamin C only acts as an antioxidant, it prevents psilocybin from turning into blue and becoming oxidised. When you just eat the mushrooms, most of the actives are oxidised and excreted as hydrophilic products by glucuronidation inside your liver. That's why you need to eat more mushrooms to have the same effects you would have with vitamin C.
If you want the full effects, you shouldn't use orange juice, that's a very bad source of vitamin C. What you want is a very concentrated solution with lemon juice.
Edited by Aureus (09/25/15 05:48 AM)
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: Aureus]
#22287246 - 09/25/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wasn't sure if orange juice could lemon tek shrooms but that's probably what happened since lemon teks hit you fast and wear off fast. Eating lightly the days before probably lessened the duration even more and also the shrooms might have been weaker than you're used to.
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Re: Not what I was hoping for. [Re: geffer]
#22287595 - 09/25/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ahh ok so they did work for a bit. Yeah I've had short trips with lemon tek. I prefer longer, less intense trips so I just make tea with only a squirting or two of lemon juice. Try just eating or tea if you want to avoid nausea
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