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jcop
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
#22289138 - 09/25/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really like Inoc for some reason. I'm starting to like you too vagblast. You see, sometimes ppl just don't get along and it's just misunderstanding 90% of the time. It's even easier to get something the wrong way on the internet, so   for both of you for getting over your shit
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: jcop]
#22289161 - 09/25/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When you log on to the shroomery the #1 thing you gotta do is don't give a shit. I used to picture little smilie faces, or tits when people post to try not to get butt hurt. Some people just don't use emoticons, and like Inoc, get to the point. If you don't understand what/why some one is saying shit, shroomery or Google shit. Like jute nets
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vagblast
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: jcop]
#22289169 - 09/25/15 04:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ha cool. I need more friends man. I don't.wanna have enemy's. That's not cool. I fucked up last time I was on here and want to do better by my fellow shroomists Now.
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
#22289183 - 09/25/15 04:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm getting the same vibes too. Just not gonna give a shit anymore and do my best to help while reciveing.help myself like this thread. I learned something.new about.misting monos.
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Inocuole
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
#22289237 - 09/25/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
#22289354 - 09/25/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vagblast said: Yeah I'm getting the same vibes too. Just not gonna give a shit anymore and do my best to help while reciveing.help myself like this thread. I learned something.new about.misting monos.
What'd you learn?
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vagblast
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22289407 - 09/25/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep the sub glistening. Didn't think that it needed to be glistening all the time. Thought.that was too wet. So when its not.glistening I should give it a psssst pssssst done right?
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
#22289478 - 09/25/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is how it should look, if it looks excessively dry then yea mist, but you shoupdnt have to if you dial in the poly correctly.
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vagblast
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: mushpunx]
#22289568 - 09/25/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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See to me that looks too wet. I was always under the impression very visible large water drops nearly pooling like that's was too much. But hey I'll try it a few different ways see how it turns out. My minis usually have visable drops much smaller then urs I mean almost to where they're barely visible. I'll have to just take.some pixs and post em soon trying to unpack my stuff in my new house still.
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: mushpunx] 1
#22289574 - 09/25/15 06:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I haven't been here long, but I love this place, I learn something new everyday. A lot of intelligent, very cool like minded people on here. People are going to disagree on things, thats part of it, having interesting intelligent discussions. I understand that it is easy to take it personal and take people wrong. We all probably get frustrated from time to time, but I like to think it is never anyone's intentions to make anyone else feel stupid, they are just trying to prove their point. Even though I have to admit it is entertaining to watch a full blown meltdown, I really don't want to see anyone get banned and miss out on this wonderful community and all it has to offer, and possibly what we could give back.
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Inocuole
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
#22289577 - 09/25/15 06:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those drops are sliiightly large but they aren't quite pooling yet.
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vagblast
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
#22289582 - 09/25/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I'll try it put. I'll mist one. I have 4. So I'll play around a little.
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TheEaglesGift
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
#22289653 - 09/25/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If a sub has no beads of moisture it is too dry, period, especially considering no further evaporation can take place and depending on where your tub is along the fruiting process, this could be absolutely detrimental to pinning. A flux of beads just suggests once can and should up the FAE, which is a great situation to be in, because that bead evaporation that the increased FAE will cause is THE major pinning trigger- surface evaporation is THE major pinning trigger. If your sub, for whatever reason, is lacking in moisture beads then place them there simply through misting, then evaporate the moisture with FAE. Rinse and repeat a few times a day til you achieve, through good genetics and a little luck, the results you see in my Journal.
Set and forget tubs do great for noobs, as they themselves are largely removed from the equation, wherein if they were present they would almost certainly do more harm than good.
Once I learned how to properly mist and then adjust my poly for ideal FAE/evaporation without drying it out, my dialed in and babied tubs have always outperformed by set and forget tubs. That said, depending on your RH, it's also possible to set and forget/dial in your tub in such a way that you get optimal results without having to touch it, but I'm sure many of the noobs who are doing set and forget with great success are finding that success due to A) luck, B) cubes resiliency, and C) the fact they're not fucking their own grow up by meddling. This doesn't necessarily mean set and forget is better than manual misting/fanning. Different strokes for different folks. An experienced grower who knows what cubes need and how things should look can pull off either with great results.
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: TheEaglesGift]
#22290030 - 09/25/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea dude I find my tubs are dialed in just perfect when there is very small droplets everywhere except right in front of the bottom poly, then I know I can't give it anymore FAE. Without starting to dry the sub.
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relsseS
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: mushpunx]
#22290181 - 09/25/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So is my tub doomed? The only yellow spots are where water had pooled. I removed the water by tilting the tub but the spots remained. How could it be full of bacteria if it fully colonized and consolidated without contam? I properly pasteurized too..
Guys, whether or not I'm supposed to be misting, my substrate is indeed drying up. I made the substrate depth quite thin, maybe 2'' max. However I've fruited on even thinner substrates that I didn't even mist. But they didn't dry out this fast for some reason. I mean it's really fucking dry already. Do you think it will even pin? What's the longest a monotub has sat before fruiting?
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Inocuole
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: relsseS]
#22290294 - 09/25/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Look I already said, metabolites don't exist for no reason, there's bacteria. You can't see every single bacterium can you? It's probably in small amounts all throughout the substrate, just enough to get the mycelium upset. If it's drying up mist it more. That's all you can do. Like I said originally, it kinda looks like it wants to make a few pins, but maybe it won't. It can take a month before a tub pins if it really wants to hold out on you.
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
#22290337 - 09/25/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Look I already said, metabolites don't exist for no reason, there's bacteria. You can't see every single bacterium can you? It's probably in small amounts all throughout the substrate, just enough to get the mycelium upset. If it's drying up mist it more. That's all you can do. Like I said originally, it kinda looks like it wants to make a few pins, but maybe it won't. It can take a month before a tub pins if it really wants to hold out on you.
Click this link. Read a little and then scroll back up and click the link that this lick originally linked you to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20648543#20648543
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: relsseS]
#22290344 - 09/25/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Somethinh isn't right man
A lot of times a tub will colonize just fine without showing any signs of contam, in cases of like trich it will show up when you fruit the tub, when it gets FAE.
Bulk substrates don't need to consolidate like cakes do BTW, you can fruit right at 100%
As far as bacteria goes, it might not show so many obvious signs of contamination, I could see how it wouldnt pin if if was bad enough, but lots of bacterial subs will fruit and do alright. Does it smell OK?
Have you tried tightening up the poly?
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Inocuole
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: azur]
#22290361 - 09/25/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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azur said:
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Inocuole said: Look I already said, metabolites don't exist for no reason, there's bacteria. You can't see every single bacterium can you? It's probably in small amounts all throughout the substrate, just enough to get the mycelium upset. If it's drying up mist it more. That's all you can do. Like I said originally, it kinda looks like it wants to make a few pins, but maybe it won't. It can take a month before a tub pins if it really wants to hold out on you.
Click this link. Read a little and then scroll back up and click the link that this lick originally linked you to http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20648543#20648543
Whatever you happen to say, I don't believe that it happens for no reason. There's either organisms that trigger the response or there aren't and there's no response. In your case it could be killing the bacteria you leave in by pasteurizing, but there is definitely bacteria there.
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azur
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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
#22290384 - 09/25/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no idea what anyone in here is even talking about anymore. This thread was mostly a shit show and now it's not. I should have just linked this
http://Inocuole.com
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