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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22288836 - 09/25/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Never mist a mono tub. Unless just after harvesting. IF it.looks dry.




That's two qualifiers, not one.  Try again.




Exactly how I understood it :shrug::amusedapplause:


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22288848 - 09/25/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

OK dude. U obviously only log on here to ridicule and talk shit to people so I'm not.gonna argue with you. If you have a problem with how I worded something. That's on you. I never said don't mist at all. Some people have to. In my case. In my house. At my altitude. With my areas rh and my homes rh I don't need to mist. My shit has plenty of water retention and rh. So what's wrong.with what I said exactly? I said never.mist unless u have to. If its dry then mist. Why would u have to ask if its too dry? Of course u mist. Der! But whatever dude you always win I've seen your post.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22288867 - 09/25/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:justcantwait: :popcorn:


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: jcop] * 1
    #22288871 - 09/25/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Another one, so soon?  jcop are you secretly behind all this?


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22288873 - 09/25/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and as far as the.second qualifier your so big on. If your shit.needs misting.before the first flush then ur sub is too damn dry too begin with before spawning and you suck at this.
Just my opinion. Since were all about giving those right now. But its fine. I'm wrong. Wtf ever. I really don't care. Moooooving on now.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22288879 - 09/25/15 03:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We're talking to a person whose monotubs are drying up.  It's in the title man.  You can't start a sentence with "Never mist a monotub" and expect that to fly.  Why are you being so defensive about it in the first place?  Can you not even admit it sounds bad the way you put it?


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22288891 - 09/25/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well yea now that u put it like that. It does sound kinda dumb. Hmmmm. :shrug:
I meant well though. Does that count?


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22288894 - 09/25/15 03:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, it does.  Crisis averted?  I'm too high for this anyway, so the answer is yes.  Carry on.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22288913 - 09/25/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't understand why your tubs would be drying up. How is your feild capacity when you prep your sub?

In mono tubs, you really should only need to mist if you had to make adjustments and kinda gave to much FAE for a minute.
You should be able to control just by tighetning or loosening the polyfill. If my tub looks dry, I tighten the poly.

I try to get it so that the only spots without surface condensation is the small area directly in front of the bottom polyfill.. then I know its getting as much air exchange as I can give without starting to dry it out.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22288915 - 09/25/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Crisis? Lol.
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Another one, so soon?  jcop are you secretly behind all this?


what does this mean?

I'm not mad at all. Just kinda wish u would be a little less rude right off the bat with things u say but not mad no.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22288928 - 09/25/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Crisis? Lol.
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Another one, so soon?  jcop are you secretly behind all this?


what does this mean?

I'm not mad at all. Just kinda wish u would be a little less rude right off the bat with things u say but not mad no.




You said you were familiar with my posts, I expect you would know that I leave a trail of meltdowns in my wake.  :shrug:

I'm just not looking for one of those today.  It never ends well.  It's always people I never initially want to dislike too.

I'm not really rude.  I'm just to the point.  I'm happy to review any post that you think my rudeness came out in, but it's more likely that I was being short, which is not the same.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22288950 - 09/25/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Another one, so soon?  jcop are you secretly behind all this?







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You said you were familiar with my posts, I expect you would know that I leave a trail of meltdowns in my wake.  :shrug:





I was waiting for this :rofl: glad you sorted it out thought :cheers:


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: jcop]
    #22288973 - 09/25/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah. Never read too far into em though. By the time it started getting bad I was like. Ft let's find another. And another. Lol. Nah I'm good bro. I'm sure u can find and fix any problems u may have with people. Not my business. Anyway. About this drytub meow. How are we gonna help this guy. I kinda get where your coming from. But if done properly would you really have to mist that offen. I mean does the.size of tub play a roll in drying.out? Or hole size?


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22288983 - 09/25/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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OK dude. U obviously only log on here to ridicule and talk shit to people so I'm not.gonna argue with you.But whatever dude you always win I've seen your post.





Where does this particular perception of me come from though?  I mean, seriously, look at my posts, just in this thread, let alone most others.  Ridicule only makes up, at most, like 5% of my posts, and even then it's still helpful at least indirectly.

You're not the only one that thinks that though, it's tons of people.  I get to the point of legitimately worrying that maybe all these people are right and the people who are otherwise nice just play along because I'm some kind of circus attraction they keep around for laughs.  I guess I like my humor offensive but I never expect people to actually get offended, no matter how many times they do.

Again, too high for this.

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Yeah. Never read too far into em though. By the time it started getting bad I was like. Ft let's find another. And another. Lol. Nah I'm good bro. I'm sure u can find and fix any problems u may have with people. Not my business. Anyway. About this drytub meow. How are we gonna help this guy. I kinda get where your coming from. But if done properly would you really have to mist that offen. I mean does the.size of tub play a roll in drying.out? Or hole size?




Well most would agree that while you're getting your tub dialed and for other potential reasons, you want to err on the side of FAE, rather than humidity, and compensate for that with misting.  Open air grows fruit great with enough misting, but no FAE grows can't really be salvaged so easily.  So yeah, hole size, poly tightness, fans in room, climate, room size, etc, would all affect how often someone might need to mist a mono, even after they've dialed it as well as they can.  So rather than "never mist unless you have to", it seems easier, and a little more direct, to just say  "mist unless you don't have to".  That way it sounds less like pressing the doomsday button. :shrug:


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22289006 - 09/25/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21288129
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The thing to remember(which is something i find misunderstood) is that the most important humidity you have is surface humidity, in other words it really doesn't matter if your fc has a rh of 40% or 99% as long as there is room for evaporation to take place the humidity that is important sits on the surface.

This is our goal with every fruiting chamber we use is surface humidity, with our monotubs we dial them in to achieve this, with our sgfc's we mist as needed to achieve this, with our gh's we (depending on your set up)use something like an ultrasonic humidifier as a timed mister to achieve this because once we have this we can focus on fae which is a great tool for everything your substrate wants for many reasons, the more the better:super:

The reason we grow in a high humidity environment is simple, mushrooms have no skin and lose moisture to the environment very easily and if they lose more then is being pumped in they simply die. This is an easy fix just simply misting your fruits.




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This is proof that what's needed is max fae, as well as proper hydration through misting. Noobs shouldn't worry about humidity in a chamber made for max fae. They just have to keep the substrate glistening wet. Mist when it isn't glistening. No pooling water!!




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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22289009 - 09/25/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ah. Yeah. Well put sir. I guess what u said just now would have.been better than this whole ordeal we went through. I mean I'm not trying.to be.rude but that last post u proved my words indifferent in a very polite way who no one I think would get offended. If that's what everyone.says about.you then maybe.you mean well but just word it rude as hell non intentionally.


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    #22289016 - 09/25/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Look at that. Mad man to the rescue. Nice dude. Its going in my notes.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: vagblast]
    #22289019 - 09/25/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can't have an immediate thoughtless reaction to something like everybody else before I become super reasonable?  I don't like to sit in front of a post and think about what would be BEST to say for 5 minutes before I get to typing.  I really did just say the same thing in less words the first time around.  Seriously go look at it.

I also can't be bothered to put more effort into communicating with someone than they are, so sometimes I let things shit the bed on purpose because might as well have fun with it if it's going downhill anyway.  I didn't do that here, it's pretty easy to prevent, incidentally.  You're right though I do tend to test people.  I dunno that I intend to stop.


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole]
    #22289097 - 09/25/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I find this debate hilarious in a completely different way than the meltdowns :thumbup:


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Re: My monotubs don't fruit, and dry up. [Re: Inocuole] * 1
    #22289108 - 09/25/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I read over it. I did kinda jump the gun. I mean it looked worse reading.it once the other guys more so than urs. But nah man. I'm good. Hope your good. My mushies are good. Ha in read ur threads man. Fuckin meltdowns for sure you wasn't lieing! Lol. I like how jcopp agged everything on too. Haha! Funny stuff bro.


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