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Should I drop out of college?
#22283789 - 09/24/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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At this point in my life I really just wanna fuck around. I want to smoke pot and trip and grow shrooms and get drunk and just fuck around in general. I want to go to different festivals and shit and do acid and I want to just have a good time with friends and enjoy being a kid for a while. I feel almost out of place in college, and I just don't really want to be there. I just went because I figured it'd be cheaper now than if I went later, and I am unsure of what I'd do otherwise. Is there anything wrong with just wanting to fuck around for a while?
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#22283826 - 09/24/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tripping and smoking weed doesn't get most people anywhere in life is the problem lol or I would only trip and smoke.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: impatientguy]
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How long have you been in college? How much have you already invested in it? Why are you in college in the first place (just to save money???)? Those are questions that should lead you to an answer.
If it's your first semester and you're feeling this way, then yeah, it might not be a bad idea to step away for awhile and seek some answers to what you want to do with the big picture in life. I mean, getting drunk and smoking weed aren't really long term goals (they can be fun, sure, but they probably aren't going to get you far and you probably won't look back in 20 years and be grateful for that investment in time). At the same time however, smoking a bit and drinking a bit can be done whether you're in college or not. But if you don't have a long term goal for what you want to do with your college degree, then I would absolutely take a step back for a semester or two and ask yourself where you want to be in 10-20 years.
Oh, and this is coming from a former college professor. I worked in the university system for 5 years before quitting last year so that I could walk the Pacific Crest Trail from Mexico to Canada and eat mushrooms and smoke DMT on a weekly basis. So yeah, it all depends on what you're seeking. Try to look at the big picture of life before making your choice though--I wouldn't recommend doing it just because you like being drunk and stoned.
But that's just my two cents. Good luck no matter what choice you make.
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I'm caught in this same position. This is my fifth year of college and I'm not sure i can even make it across the finish line. Figuring out a long term financial plan without a degree is a bitch though. Money is already a major stressor and I'm not even financially independent yet
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Go to school. You have been given a privilege that most people in the world do not get.
That is like being handed something really awesome that so many other people would die to have and work their asses off for, just go get high. 
I dropped out cause of a meth addiction, now that I am in college I am NOT fucking this up. When you get a second chance you grab it by the testicles and you will knock anything down in your path.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said: Is there anything wrong with just wanting to fuck around for a while?
Absolutely no. I've been in the exact same situation. I won a scholarship to do some studying abroad and stuff, but then I said fuck it lets just fuck around and do acid at festivals. So I did. For a while. Then it got old really fast.
I did all the fuckery I wanted, now I need to do something more serious.
I'd say go for it, just make sure you leave a door open in case you want to go down the college path again.
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Bitter Cactus said: Go to school. You have been given a privilege that most people in the world do not get.
That is like being handed something really awesome that so many other people would die to have and work their asses off for it to get high. 
I'm glad you're enjoying your schooling, but you are still relatively new to that path no offense. This is not a one size fits all solution to a happy life and I would personally rather be dead than continue climbing this ladder. Whether or not it's the right path for OP remains to be seen but is a valid question for him to entertain.
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The hippy mantra is money does not equal happiness.
IMO that is not true.
So many problems are cured with money. Imagine being deep in debt and being able to take that all away. That would be a huge sense of relief. Being able to do what you want more freely and not worry about money and have a good life and all that are all amazing.
Higher wages = higher quality of life no contest. Move to Ethiopia and eat mud pies if you want to argue that point. There is nothing better then financial security and freedom to travel and go skiing and not count each penny you have.
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Bitter Cactus said: The hippy mantra is money does not equal happiness.
IMO that is not true.
So many problems are cured with money. Imagine being deep in debt and being able to take that all away. That would be a huge sense of relief. Being able to do what you want more freely and not worry about money and have a good life and all that are all amazing.
Higher wages = higher quality of life no contest. Move to Ethiopia and eat mud pies if you want to argue that point. There is nothing better then financial security and freedom to travel and go skiing and not count each penny you have.
BC once again... My dad has like 8 houses, several boats, several jetskis, etc. I've had access to prime education. I used to travel out of country and go skiing every year. I am miserable. He is miserable. My sister is miserable. My mom is the only semi-happy person in this family and I can even see the terror in her eyes when she acknowledges what we're going through. Money can be wonderful to those who need it, but it can also make you a slave.
I have a disease called CIDP which means my immune system literally destroys my nerves on a daily basis. This is largely a lifestyle problem. Chronic stress, not having the time to cook a decently healthy meal, not getting enough sunlight and exercise, etc. I'm 23 and my body is already ravaged from the rat race. You know what happiness is for me? Not being in chronic pain. Having friends again. Having time and energy for my passions. I would set most of my modern belongings in flames in an instant if i knew I had a nice field with some food growing on it and some friends to tend to it with. I've got plenty of respect for those who find comfort in the modern way of living and I don't expect you to 'get' my angle, but know that I'm being sincere when I say "fuck this life. i am not happy."
What you say sounds great in an ideological sense but it just doesn't work out that way in reality. Most people get into those debts chasing money in the first place. Trying to be competitive with education and nicer living standards and then they stress off many years of their lives trying to pay that off. True financial security is something very few people experience. And again I want you to understand that I am not saying that chasing high profile careers is a bad thing, it's just not for everyone and you can't say it's objectively better
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I have a disease called CIDP which means my immune system literally destroys my nerves on a daily basis. This is largely a lifestyle problem. Chronic stress, not having the time to cook a decently healthy meal, not getting enough sunlight and exercise, etc. I'm 23 and my body is already ravaged from the rat race.
If it really is a lifestyle problem, then you are doing it wrong for 5 years. When you don't have to worry about money either way and you don't love or value what you are doing in college then gtfo.
What you really should do is go see if they let you interrupt your studies for a year because of your illness. All depending on if your dad wants to pay that and if you want him to pay it. I'd accept that in no time.
You see, I'm an amputee from 18 because of an accident and this is why I developed a "take no shit" attitude. I have already aborted a career that would have made me sick. Fuck that shit. You don't need work to "give structure to your life" - it's just harder to fill your life with meaning if you don't have to work. My accident has gotten me a nice appartment and it does indeed make up a little for that lost limb.
However, half a year of doing "nothing" or just getting better in terms of health has always done a lot for my motivation for college. Try it.
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I just have no idea what I'm in school before other than that it was just the easiest next step, but at the same time i only have this one life to live and i feel like i need to ultimately follow what i really wanna do which is party
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22284704 - 09/24/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's some counter-intuitive advice: do it. Take a year off.
Our society is about going to school to figure yourself out. I never agreed with that. It was only after wasting $60,000 on a BA in psych from a pristigious and high priced private school that I realized I'd much rather cook... I have no prospects for my degree and no desire to continue schooling to gain those prospects.
After the second year out of college, I kinda had the idea of how the world works and how I want to live in it. Some key points I need to reach is an education if I want to compete anywhere (I need to go back for culinary, soon), I need to make at least 45,000 a year by the age of 35. I'm young now, but I need to save for retirement and I'm probably going to have increasing health/dental bills as I age, where my minimum wage job won't help.
Idk about the drinking/smoking/shrooming bit. That should be kept in moderation while achieving real life goals, but never made the primary attraction of this life.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said: I just have no idea what I'm in school before other than that it was just the easiest next step, but at the same time i only have this one life to live and i feel like i need to ultimately follow what i really wanna do which is party
I used to see far too many people in your exact situation. I think that the post above^ is completely right. Consider taking some time off to get perspective on your life and figure out what you want to do in the future. It doesn't make sense that society tells kids that they HAVE to go to college or they'll be a failure at life. College can be great if you use it to achieve your goals, but if you're just there because it's an easy next step then it will likely be a massive waste of time and money.
Consider taking some time off and get some perspective. Go on top of a mountain and have a mushroom trip (with a sitter) and ask the universe what you should do with your life. Spend a few months thinking about the answers that you get from that experience. Then proceed accordingly.
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It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
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I have a disease called CIDP which means my immune system literally destroys my nerves on a daily basis. This is largely a lifestyle problem. Chronic stress, not having the time to cook a decently healthy meal, not getting enough sunlight and exercise, etc. I'm 23 and my body is already ravaged from the rat race.
If it really is a lifestyle problem, then you are doing it wrong for 5 years. When you don't have to worry about money either way and you don't love or value what you are doing in college then gtfo.
What you really should do is go see if they let you interrupt your studies for a year because of your illness. All depending on if your dad wants to pay that and if you want him to pay it. I'd accept that in no time.
You see, I'm an amputee from 18 because of an accident and this is why I developed a "take no shit" attitude. I have already aborted a career that would have made me sick. Fuck that shit. You don't need work to "give structure to your life" - it's just harder to fill your life with meaning if you don't have to work. My accident has gotten me a nice appartment and it does indeed make up a little for that lost limb.
However, half a year of doing "nothing" or just getting better in terms of health has always done a lot for my motivation for college. Try it.
I actually took a good bit of time off. Honestly it was the best time of my life. I'm studying biochem so naturally the illness presented an intriguing mystery to me that I was determined to solve. From there I started branching out into understanding other inflammatory disorders. Reading literature day in and day out. Didn't feel a damned bit like work. Started entertaining the idea of pursuing functional medicine which is why I went back to school. 3 weeks in all I can think is how much I hate my life. It seems kind of drastic but it's brought me back to a mentality of neglecting sleep, studying irrelevant material constantly, downing caffeine, then getting zooted to bring my mind back down to a reasonable plane. By the time it's all done I have no interest or energy to engage the literature I had fallen in love with. Same kind of deal happened to me with music when I entered college. I've just never handled the standardized learning approach very well which is why I'm afraid if I take more time off it would be the end of it
I appreciate your support though. Certainly wouldn't have gotten that from my folks
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said: It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
Sounds like a reasonable approach. I don't know what your school is like but freshmen year was my best so it might be worth it to give it a chance. Plenty of drugs and stuff to be had freshmen year Also, just some personal advice based on my own experience... Make sure if you go to festivals and trip to meet people, that you're also focusing on personal growth and other things outside of drug use/music. This is one of those lifestyles where far more people engage it in their 20s than are committed to it long term so you can expect a lot of your friendship circles to dissipate if you don't form more permanent and niche interests. And don't get me wrong, plenty of interesting lifestyles exist within those circles to explore. ie performance arts, glasswork, ecosustainable type things, etc are some of the ones i've come across.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Anonymous said: It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
I don't like this idea.
You are just lost. I was there.
Go to school and find yourself boy smoking weed and doing drugs is not a good idea. School is just like four years get it done then relax IMO. I wish I did it that way instead of slacking off then doing school and being behind everyone else.
If all you learnt from tripping is that you want to quit school to trip I think the knowledge you are getting from psychedelics is not good.
Reality is this. Life is a bitch. In order to do stuff you need money. In order to get money you need a degree or you need to have a skill or trade.
You need to be useful in some way to other people to make money. IMO once you find something you like that you can make a lot of money with then you have a good life. Go to school and it will suck dick at first but IMO it is worth it. Getting a degree is a good investment I don't care what anyone says.
Money = pussy
Money = freedom
Money does not equate to happiness, but nothing is wrong with having a ton of money and being a happy person.
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Anonymous said: It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
Sounds like a reasonable approach. I don't know what your school is like but freshmen year was my best so it might be worth it to give it a chance. Plenty of drugs and stuff to be had freshmen year Also, just some personal advice based on my own experience... Make sure if you go to festivals and trip to meet people, that you're also focusing on personal growth and other things outside of drug use/music. This is one of those lifestyles where far more people engage it in their 20s than are committed to it long term so you can expect a lot of your friendship circles to dissipate if you don't form more permanent and niche interests. And don't get me wrong, plenty of interesting lifestyles exist within those circles to explore. ie performance arts, glasswork, ecosustainable type things, etc are some of the ones i've come across.
My college is more of a small college (5000 people or so) in a rural area so although everyone drinks, there isn't a big drug scene. I know it seems like a cliche thing to say but I really feel that I need to find myself. I am confused as to what path I should be pursuing in life and I am tired of feeling isolated and like I'm wasting my time.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22285674 - 09/24/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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College is a lot of things, but something it is not is a waste of time. Whether or not you use that knowledge does not matter. College makes you a higher thinking person.
The hippies will disagree with me but whatever. I do think it makes you able to critically think more about the world.
It will give you a perspective on life a thousand trips could never teach you.
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So far it really just seems like a slightly more mature extension of high school but I'm trying to give it more time
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22285865 - 09/24/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Remember, college is a privilege. Lots of people would give both their testicles and some of their toes for a chance at a post secondary education.
You need to realize how lucky you are and to throw it away for drugs is not a good look. It happened to me do not do it. I am happy to be back in school, it sucks but at the same time you need to learn to enjoy it.
Enjoy learning. Enjoy expanding your mind. You do not need drugs to expand your mind. You can just go to school and get way better life lessons that do not require psychedelics.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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To give you another perspective, I really enjoyed school, regardless of the debt. After moving through the core BS, I got to take a lot of courses that changed the way I think and approach life. I loved my religion, psychology, linguistics, statistics, history, and philosophy courses. There was also a huge emphasis on broader perspectives and diversity, which opened me to a lot of ideas and perceptions (options) of the world. If you aren't able to apply it to a future degree though, why incur the debt? I'd just find a path, then go all out. You'll be eligible for more grants and scholarships now, but you can almost always get loans.
What kind of things do you enjoy doing, if not school? Why are you disinterested in school?
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Also, school does not always have to be fun. It is work! Sometimes you might want to get a gun and blow your brains out at the thought of all the assignments and homework and essays you have to write, but at the end of the day it is worth it.
It can be fun sometimes, but sometimes you need to just buckle down. Nobody said life was easy but struggle is what builds character. Smoking marijuana cigarettes and drinking in dingy apartments instead of going to school is not building character.
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You're young and adventurous. That's good. Go have adventures.
You'll be older and more serious before you know it. It's not a bad thing, you just change, the brain changes.
Have fun!

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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: circastes]
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The early years of college do feel like a high school extension. That is to be expected. I wish I could tell you that next semester will be better, but I sort of had that feeling until I got into grad school or at least into my Jr/Sr year in college.
That said, a lot of college is what you put into it. You notice from Bitter Cactus's posts that he's getting a lot out of going back to school (I think those were his posts that I read earlier today) and that's because it's his second time around. I used to see that a lot from people who were coming back to college after some time away. They realized that they WANTED to be there, and that significantly affects the classes themselves. If you're only giving it the minimum, then do not be surprised if that's all you get out of it. Freshmen and sophomore years can be great if you are passionate about your classes (pending you have good teachers). But I don't really get a sense that you're passionate about being there, so it's to be expected that you've got more of the *bla* ahead.
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yeah it can feel about the same as high school at times. As far as not knowing what you want to do, your gen Ed classes and electives are a good way to get exposure. Most people don't know what they want to do when they go in and only figure out after taking a class they enjoy. I think in any path you choose you'll have to stick around a bit to see what the options are
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Do you guys think leaving for a while to travel around a little and just fuck around would be a bad idea?
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Just get your degree done then fuck around after IMO. Just get er done tho.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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OP only you know what's best for you. If you really feel inclined to drop out then do so. Why go through something you're not passionate about?
I did exactly what you want to do in my 20's. I opted to work and fuck around for a good minute before I went back to school. I am on the verge of graduating in 2 semesters and it feels great.
The funny thing is that once I came back for school, taking drugs and fucking around became the last thing on my mind since I got that out of my system early on.
It's funny to read your post because that is the position a lot of the youngsters here at school go through, they jump right in after high school and never give themselves the opportunity to take a much needed break. They usually end up fucking up and dropping out with a great amount of debt with nothing to show for it.
Follow your heart OP.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Sham87]
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I did exactly what you want to do in my 20's. I opted to work and fuck around for a good minute before I went back to school. I am on the verge of graduating in 2 semesters and it feels great.
The funny thing is that once I came back for school, taking drugs and fucking around became the last thing on my mind since I got that out of my system early on.
It's funny to read your post because that is the position a lot of the youngsters here at school go through, they jump right in after high school and never give themselves the opportunity to take a much needed break. They usually end up fucking up and dropping out with a great amount of debt with nothing to show for it.
Follow your heart OP.
I never went to college the first time.
I did end up getting all the partying and shit out of my system tho. Right now the last thing on my mind is drugs lol I just wanna do well on my degree.
You are signed up already bro just do it. You don't wanna be flipping burgers and being a stinky hippy forever. College is for people that want a good life.
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So for those of you who spent time out of college, or dropped the idea altogether... How did you make ends meet?
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OP, if you want to party, do an event management course and start going to heaps of parties. Build a network of young DJs, artists and VJs. Meet people from a good crowd and contact venues to start throwing your own parties. You can make money off knowing how to party, you know.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: GoldenEye]
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That's an interesting idea. I always kinda had this idea of just spending a shit load of money on like a hundred hits of L or something and just going around to different concerts and festivals etc and just selling acid and tripping. Make enough to buy some more acid, save the profit and then do it all over again
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
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No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
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No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
If you haven't noticed, I've been trying to ignore you, as I don't think you're a member of much value. Please stop posting in this thread
Despite whatever reputation you think he has, everyone has value and his perspective is valid as well. No offence, but he's not wrong that that is an immature view... I don't think it's the wrong view by any means, but BC is thinking more long term, which is ideal, but may not be for you where you are at now .
To put it into perspective: I have a (very successful) drug dealer friend who makes connections, networks well, and has a lot of really good connections and outlets. Some of the best LSD and MDMA goes through this guy at some amazing prices. That said, he still has a shitty factory job to make ends meet (you can't pay your way in life as a drug dealer unless you get into high risk, highly popular stuff, like coke, meth, or heroin). He also dreams of opening his own motorcycle shop and is making strides to get that rolling, while hustling and selling drugs. He's 22, where you are probably closer to 18-19 and he was just going to raves and making connections at your age, so I mean, it might be viable 
So BC's advice was correct that you are only thinking about 2-3 years out. College could set you on a path that will sustain you for the rest of your life, or just for the 4 years you attend. It's all what you make of it!
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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That's not at all what I was thinking. I was thinking in a lot more sustainable and professional terms.
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Get the degree out of the way and then you are golden.
Like I said, college is a not a right by any means. It is a privilege.
Lots of people around the world would give both their testicles and most of their toes and even a couple fingers to have the opportunity to go to post secondary education.
To throw it away for drugs and thugs and dingy hotel rooms instead of having a good life is not a good move. You have some decisions to make.
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That's not at all what I was thinking. I was thinking in a lot more sustainable and professional terms.
Yea, I mean that isn't an idea that I'd actually ever pursue. It's just kinda one of those high ideas that I get after smoking a bowl and think "Man, wouldn't that be crazy?" But I am aware that it sounds a lot better in my high daze than it would turn out to be irl.
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No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
If you haven't noticed, I've been trying to ignore you, as I don't think you're a member of much value. Please stop posting in this thread
Despite whatever reputation you think he has, everyone has value and his perspective is valid as well. No offence, but he's not wrong that that is an immature view... I don't think it's the wrong view by any means, but BC is thinking more long term, which is ideal, but may not be for you where you are at now .
To put it into perspective: I have a (very successful) drug dealer friend who makes connections, networks well, and has a lot of really good connections and outlets. Some of the best LSD and MDMA goes through this guy at some amazing prices. That said, he still has a shitty factory job to make ends meet (you can't pay your way in life as a drug dealer unless you get into high risk, highly popular stuff, like coke, meth, or heroin). He also dreams of opening his own motorcycle shop and is making strides to get that rolling, while hustling and selling drugs. He's 22, where you are probably closer to 18-19 and he was just going to raves and making connections at your age, so I mean, it might be viable 
So BC's advice was correct that you are only thinking about 2-3 years out. College could set you on a path that will sustain you for the rest of your life, or just for the 4 years you attend. It's all what you make of it!
You're right, maybe I was a little rude there. BitterCactus, I am well aware that college right now would be the ideal path. I am well aware that life would most likely be easier 5 or 6 years down the road had I gone to college right now, but I just can't see sacrificing 4 years of happiness for 4 years in a place that I'm unhappy and miserable in. I'm trying not to jump to gun and plan to wait a little while to see if things improve, but if it keeps up I really think dropping out would be the best route.
I don't want to live a life where I am constantly telling myself "just a little more shit and then you'll get to the light at the end of the tunnel. just a couple more years of the bullshit" I think that's a cycle that many people are unaware of. They spend their entire lives chasing the next thing that they think will make life better or easier, while never actually enjoying life in the present and appreciating all that they have in this moment. I really think I'd be happier working, at least for a little while.
Here is an example: There is a little Mexican restaurant near my house that is hiring at the moment. Say I get a job there serving or washing dishes or something. My next goal would be to get an apartment of my own. Save up for a little while, meet new people, etc, and then ultimately get a new apartment. Then move on to the next goal, whether that be something as simple of learning to grow shrooms, or planning a road trip with friends, whatever. I would be able to actively pursue goals that excite me, like getting my own place, teaching myself something new like growing shrooms, etc.
There is a novelty that accompanies the part of life that I am in now, these young years. I really just want to savor that for a while and see what it's like out there for a little while, and then if I choose to go to school later on, community college is always an option and from there I could even transfer on to a university if I wanted to at some point. Or I could learn some kind of skill along the way, who knows. My point is, experiencing the 'real world' will allow one of two things to happen. Either I will discover that I am happy that way and continue to live so until I become discontent, or it will give me a new appreciation of the privilege that is college, and will cause me to really get motivated if and when I should reattend
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I don't want to live a life where I am constantly telling myself "just a little more shit and then you'll get to the light at the end of the tunnel. just a couple more years of the bullshit" I think that's a cycle that many people are unaware of. They spend their entire lives chasing the next thing that they think will make life better or easier, while never actually enjoying life in the present and appreciating all that they have in this moment. I really think I'd be happier working, at least for a little while.
Here is an example: There is a little Mexican restaurant near my house that is hiring at the moment. Say I get a job there serving or washing dishes or something. My next goal would be to get an apartment of my own. Save up for a little while, meet new people, etc, and then ultimately get a new apartment. Then move on to the next goal, whether that be something as simple of learning to grow shrooms, or planning a road trip with friends, whatever. I would be able to actively pursue goals that excite me, like getting my own place, teaching myself something new like growing shrooms, etc.
There is a novelty that accompanies the part of life that I am in now, these young years. I really just want to savor that for a while and see what it's like out there for a little while, and then if I choose to go to school later on, community college is always an option and from there I could even transfer on to a university if I wanted to at some point. Or I could learn some kind of skill along the way, who knows. My point is, experiencing the 'real world' will allow one of two things to happen. Either I will discover that I am happy that way and continue to live so until I become discontent, or it will give me a new appreciation of the privilege that is college, and will cause me to really get motivated if and when I should reattend
Dude, that's as rational a view as any I've seen. I wish I had that perspective when I was your age. I really like the "light at the end of tunnel" analogy, because that is really a poor way to live your life if you don't even have a light waiting for you at the end (you don't without a plan, really and that's what society tends to push people to do, which is egregious in my opinion). Find your light and work on the little things for now. You can ALWAYS go back to school! Always always always.
:thumbsup: I'm glad you found a direction here, man, good luck!
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Hey, just out of curiosity, how close are you to an AA or something else you can just scoop up real quick while you're there??? An AA opens doors too!
Maybe you can take some practical courses (mechanics, or hospitality or something) while you're there? Just a thought if you're going to be there another year
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You will be wasting years and years of your life if you decide against education. In my opinion, education respective higher payment is not for making more money but to work less. You might have to work up to 1/10 of the time when you're done.
Education makes you more attractive, happier and a better person.
It sounds more like you are in the wrong classes if it doesn't give you anything.
You can not always go back to school, it's plain wrong, as wrong as calling your view rational. It's highly irrational and naive. What if times get really bad? Then you are fucked - not of you are in an irreplaceable position. Not to mention that education is an absolute must for getting the good women.
Change the subject of your studies and do it in a way that will give you a half a year off.
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Education makes you more attractive, happier and a better person.
It sounds more like you are in the wrong classes if it doesn't give you anything.
You can not always go back to school, it's plain wrong, as wrong as calling your view rational. It's highly irrational and naive. What if times get really bad? Then you are fucked - not of you are in an irreplaceable position. Not to mention that education is an absolute must for getting the good women.
Change the subject of your studies and do it in a way that will give you a half a year off.
Don't be a stupid kid, you will regret it.

I find women with a degree way more attractive then a non educated girl. Like I got an eye appointment and this 25 year old chick did my eye tests and I found that attractive cause it means she has an education and money and isn't a freeloading hippy like OP wants to be.
I wish I never became an addict cause I would be on my third year right now. But nothing is gonna stop me I am gonna get that degree and get a high paying job.
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No don't worry, I'm sure you learned a lotfrom your drug episodes, I do know chicks dig that. What you obviously gained is appreciation for your education. All the kids I study psychology with don't value what they do and well, they don't know shit about life. What educated people have to fight with is that they are not accepted by people of lower socio-economic circles and I do somehow understand that. However this doesn't happen to me because people sense that I've been through a lot of shit and thus I seem to have achieved a little bit of "street credibility" which is very valuable.
Another aspect is that you are much more capable of organizing the new information if you are older. Your thinking has more structure and I can tell a huge difference to my younger colleagues.
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It just irks me that I could be graduating in two years if I never did meth, but now graduation is more then three years away.
I am gonna graduate though I am doing well in my classes. I just wasted one year doing meth and the next year doing nothing.
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A year is really not much, I lost 2 years due to my accident, a year because of working a office job that turned out to be very harmful for my mental health and two years studying biology because you can get close to zero job with that here. I dont consider any of that wasted time, it has made me who I am today. You don't notice what experiences you'd be missing if you hadn't fucked around for a year.
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Education makes you more attractive, happier and a better person.
Right... I must have mistaken myself for a sick, miserable, unkept person all this time i've been in school. And all the reading, learning, self-care and passion-developing I did when I left school must have never really happened either. Glad you both have this down to a simple equation that works for everyone.
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I just noticed in general, women who are educated seem happier, have a better self esteem, have a purpose and seem way more attractive.
Drop outs are missing something that someone with a degree has.
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Ok well it's clear that everything I have to save is going in one ear and out the other
And also bc, i don't wanna be a freeloading hippie, i wanna be a self reliant one but im sure you have heaps of wisdom about that to teach me about in my,naive ways
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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And also bc, i don't wanna be a freeloading hippie, i wanna be a self reliant one but im sure you have heaps of wisdom about that to teach me about in my,naive ways
I think you are just not liking the fact that you need to put in a lot of effort in college to be successful and you would rather just get high and take psychedelic drugs instead.
College is the best investment a person can make. You obviously have to pay a lot for the education, but for most people it is way worth it and you pay off those debts and you get a nice house, have a good career that you like and true happiness.
You may be one of the people saying "fuck the system, fuck college, fuck this I am doing it my own way". Honestly though nobody cares. People with education are good people and they have found what they want to do and are good at it and have direction.
If you have skills like you are a plumber or you can build a house or you can work heavy machinery or you are a carpenter that is cool too. But unless you have a really good skill you are no better then a random immigrant who is a floor cook at McDonalds.
Get the education IMO.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
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I have very well read what you posted and I have directly addressed several of your thoughts. You're just behaving immature and a little dickish.
You just want to hear that you should drop out.
So go ahead and waste yearsof your time and your mental and physical health on stupid minimum wage jobs. Chances are good that you will never realize what you miss out.
@jackson metaller:
I did study biology at a university that keeps a hardcore focus on chemistry. I do very well know how frustrating that was. You just don't seem to love biochemistry. There are HUGE differences in how much stress the different educational branches mean. Psychology is a fucking cake walk compared to biology with heaps of free time.
There is some educational path that will fulfill you, I'm sorry you haven't found it yet. You've probably gone to far for just re-orienting. I think it's very unlikely to find what you like best at the first try, how could you possibly know?
If your family will save you from poverty and wasting your life & health on minimum wage, quit what makes you sick. There is no need for formal education if you are well-off. I have developed a real interest for chemistry a year after studying biology. I hated it during college.
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I think you are missing the point. You should tone down your know-it-all demeanor, too, that won't reach ANYone.
After about two years of toiling in minimum wage hell, he's going to have more life experience, better prospects and options in general (that can only be granted by experience) and he/she can reinvest his time and money in something where he/she can actually benefit and enjoy. It sounds like he/she is looking for self-growth and isn't on a path to opiates or whatever, to just drop him out of the race. It sounds like he/she is looking for experiences and perspective. What's wrong with that?
Time is running out in the sense that mental acuity is in decline after the age of 25, but regardless, you CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO SCHOOL. You won't be as smart as we, elite, who went to school for 16+ years of our young, developmentally strong lives, but shit, you'll probably be happier!
Save the debt, get oriented, then break the glass ceiling. Breaking that ceiling for the sake of is much like the story of Icarus.
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Flipping burgers and taking psychedelic drugs and all that sounds great but it isn't. You are gonna wish you went to school.
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That's sensationalist garbage. You can go to school in two years, you can go in twelve. It's a tool that can help or hurt depending on how you use it, not some divine mode of progression.
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I think it is a good idea to get a degree when you are young so in your early/ mid twenties you are a productive member of society.
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Define productive. How many BA holders get shoved in dead-end jobs because they got a degree in philosophy, psychology, religion, history, arts, I could go on, but have no intention to actually use it for the graduate school they'd need to work in one of those fields?
So many people go to school because it's what society laid out for them, but they could have started their own business or found a niche that suits them better.
You don't have to go to school to be a productive member of society. It HELPS, but it isn't mandatory and many are actually detrimenting their future with superfluous educations and debts.
Like I said, I got a psych degree from a good, expensive school that I value for personal growth, but as far as usefulness and marketability (being a productive member of society), I'm better off without the $60,000 of debt. I wouldn't change what I did, much, but I'd probably have taken a year to reflect, then chosen a practical degree, while taking a ton of psych classes as electives while I'm there.
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I do, however agree that school can help open you up to more options as well, but if you aren't engaged, as OP seems to suggest, there are other options that may be more engaging.
I also see the developmental aspect that you are promoting; go while you are young, or you'll never develop the discipline to study... I'd say OP probably never will develop that. Only so many people get off by reading books. there are a million paths to enlightenment.
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Generally going to school and getting a good degree (that is useful not philosophy) sets yourself up for success. There is no debate that people who go to post secondary have higher wages then other folks.
I really think OP needs to man up, do his homework and achieve success. I think he is just avoiding it cause it requires effort on his part. Not everything you do is supposed to be fun. Often times though you are choosing a degree because the subject interests you and you can make money with it. That is a great combo but sometimes studying any subject in school is tedious and boring but you gotta just do it or you can flip burgers are a dingy fast food restaurant your whole life.
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Let's just agree that he shouldn't drop out. And let's agree that going to college makes you more successful on average. Although I'm an individual and statistics don't mean much to an individual.
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I just want more people to see college as an institution that is a lifelong tool.
He SHOULD drop out, but he should also go back in a year or two. I think more adults should go back to school too.
Let me give you another perspective: My aunt has a PhD in philosophy and was a professor for about 8 years before she got burnt out. She spent 3 years during the economic collapse fighting for a job at McDonalds or ANYthing to keep her dog and kid fed. She was too overqualified. It wasn't her resume, or her approach, it was the market and her marketability for having such an advanced degree. It closed a lot of doors for her. When she started leaving that off her resume, she started getting hits.
She managed to get into an entry level job, helping youth discover life paths. She mostly works with drop outs to help them get into trade schools, build resumes, and grapple life in and out of high school and now she loves her job This job requires a BA and she could have stopped there.
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There is some educational path that will fulfill you, I'm sorry you haven't found it yet.
That's just the thing though. There's not. I LOVE science. More than anything. I just HATE biochemistry. Chemistry would deviate too far from what I enjoy and biology curriculum isn't that different from biochem. What it comes down to is the fact that standardized materials leads to standard students. Not exceptional students. College is great for someone who is still figuring out what options there are or someone who's just trying to land a job. But I'm neither of those. I know what I love. I know what questions I need to be asking next. I've spent these past several months I've been out of school studying every waking minute. I spent half my trip to the Caribbean with my family in my room reading literature on inflammatory cascades. I would wake up at 6:30 in the morning while my gf got ready for work and grab some caffeine and read literature on the microbiome. Every time a question popped into my head, no matter where i was, I would pull out my phone and jump on to NCBI and dive in head first. If i ever got frustrated or overwhelmed I would remember that I could put it down with no consequence. I would go and learn how to play guitar and then sure enough I would feel the absence of science and come running back refreshed and ready for more.
Since i started up school again all I want to do is get high. I wake up in a bitter attitude, have a bitter attitude all day, and I go to sleep baked as fuck to try and simulate some sort of emotional balance. I don't read science on my own anymore because my energy is constantly sapped. It's constantly being used on things like physics homework and biochem. At this point biochemistry is entirely redundant as I've been learning how to transform plasmids for like 3 semesters despite the fact that everyone knows like less than 1% of the students give a shit about biochem and are just using it as a way to get into med school or for competitive leverage for other scientific careers. So why are we being tested so hard on things that don't apply to all of us? Why is there very little emphasis on independent study and cooperative studies/multidisciplinary discussions as opposed to competitive regurgitation of standardized materials? I understand exposure. Exposure to biochem is essential for anyone in life sciences. Same with physics. Same with organic chem. Etc. But there's a big difference between stimulating students thinking along a broad area of disciplines and making them commit every goddamn second of their life to nitty gritty details that most of them will never use again. I don't mind showing up to a biochem lecture and learning something I wouldn't have been exposed to otherwise. It helps me broaden my horizons when I'm problem solving my own materials. But I don't want to be forced to bring it back home with me and replace the materials I actually care about for some vague promise that if i do this now, maybe one day in the future I can do the thing I love. Smells like a trap to me. If i needed to know more biochem or physics as it applies to my interests I will take that up on my own because it would be... my interests... and my interests fuel me. And it's unfortunate because my career options in this field are most certainly limited without walking down the pre-carved path first. I get that. But after decades of playing this game and not being happy you have to start thinking about where you're going to put your foot down because you don't have any guarantee that it's ever going to get better.
I don't mean this to bitch about my own issues. I'm just expressing my experience on the matter because I just think it's a real problem to keep pushing this idea that "education" = "success". It's not necessarily helpful to the student or society. After a year of constant doctors visits I have a clear idea that standard education has done little for many of them. None of them could figure out what's wrong with me nor did they even seem to have any clue where to start. After getting into the literature myself I saw clear associations between my symptoms which can be easily treated and am currently working with another more passionate doctor who agrees with my hypothesis to resolve them. Point being I think in a few years time of following my own path fueled by my true passion and networking with other experienced people I could contribute more to the field than the ones who've beaten down the standard path trying to blow up their resume and compete for job opportunities. I mean, could you imagine if a PhD in music was required to be in a recognized band? I don't know about you, but I'd rather listen to the bands made of drop-out stoners who've been experimenting with and tweaking the physics of sound in creative manners their whole lives. Not the ones who got the job because because they demonstrated the best knowledge of classical theory in front of a group of professors after 8 years of slaving away and got a stamp of approval added to their name. Not to say it couldn't help some students make more beautiful music... But is it better seen as a qualification? Or simply supplemental aid to those who need it?
Having a degree might broaden your chances at getting a job in some cases. But it doesn't necessarily make you better at your job. Or happier at your job. And in some job circles, that might not fly as well. Like my music example. Whether or not to get a degree is a really personal choice and I don't think there is any right or wrong answer, but I do think that it shouldn't come at the expense of ones happiness because that is the very thing that fuels creativity and productivity.
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Solution: get a degree that has lots of job opportunities.
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Do you think there may be a correlation with your pot use and burn-out? I know there was for me... When did your lack of interest in Science start and when did you start smoking more heavily? What other life events or changes surrounds your changing interest levels?
Weed isn't so much a refresher, it's extra shit that stresses your neurobiology.
Let me ask you a better question: What do you see yourself doing, if not a science based degree? If the answer is "nothing" you're probably smoking too much weed. If the answer is "i don't know", you're a little better off.
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He is probably super burnt out from frying on acid and smoking weed all the time.
He probably doesn't wanna put in the hard work college takes. He probably just wants to dick around and do drugs.
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but things aren't so black and white. Is he burnt out because of drugs, or did he go to drugs because he was burned out?
Correlation does not equal causation.
I agree both are negative, but it implies two very different means of finding change (both require putting down drugs for a bit though).
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Dude he probably just went to college and realized that he actually had to put in work and it is not all smoking weed and getting high on drugs and just gave up.
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Could be. I can't profess to know based on these posts alone. He'd have to paint us a picture about how he came to fall out of interest.
Honestly BC, I am playing devil's advocate to your ideas to promote these guys to think more critically about their issues, but they definitely need to hear what you are saying and it very well could apply to them in some degree. Just saying, but you definitely are taking my opposition well.
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I just had an interesting exam, it was called psychology of happiness and this is where those know-it-all academic dickheads told me the majority of what I posted here. Most people aren't happier without education. I don't post to reach anyone, some things about happiness are considered fact by lots of scientists that went to school for 12+ years. Idiots, could have done that in two years as well.
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Living in Florida, I always thought it'd be fun to try and start a spore business. Just make spore syringes from shrooms I pick and sell them online. I know it would not be enough to support me but it'd be interesting to see how much I made from it.
But go ahead bitter cactus, tell me how dumb that is LOL
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22294796 - 09/26/15 05:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll tell you how dumb it is. The market is pretty much tapped and you'd probably make about $400 a year max. That's a good hobby though
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#22298704 - 09/27/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea ok
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22298796 - 09/27/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Yea ok
Prove me wrong, Einstein.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#22298872 - 09/27/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Drop outs are missing something that someone with a degree has.
I think I know what they might be missing! A degree. Is that it? It is isn't it?
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#22298902 - 09/27/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said:
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Anonymous said: Yea ok
Prove me wrong, Einstein.
I don't have to, that is one of the glories of sitting behind a keyboard.
I guess at the end of the day it's a lesson that I have to learn myself. Until I see for myself, that itch will be there.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22298909 - 09/27/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Broader perspectives and harsh realizations are coming, my friend. Good luck.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22300112 - 09/27/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the short answer is yes, if you want to drop out of college you should drop out of college. I don't think there's any point being there if you're not getting some sense of personal development out of it, and you are doing yourself and everyone else a disservice to stay.
Try to leave on good terms. Like since I am assuming this semester just started, and it is likely now past the final add/drop day, really put in the work to finish this semester. That way if you decide to go back, and trust me you likely will want to at some point, you will not have screwed yourself over and wasted a bunch of money.
If you can't handle finishing off that one semester, you probably should seek counseling and quit doing drugs, and this is another thing you're just going to have to trust me on, drinking and smoking won't help you escapre from your depression. There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to buckle down and complete one semester of college, and if you regret your decisions later you will only have yourself to blame.
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