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Giftofdeprivation
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Hey, just out of curiosity, how close are you to an AA or something else you can just scoop up real quick while you're there??? An AA opens doors too!
Maybe you can take some practical courses (mechanics, or hospitality or something) while you're there? Just a thought if you're going to be there another year
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Murzelpfrumpft
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You will be wasting years and years of your life if you decide against education. In my opinion, education respective higher payment is not for making more money but to work less. You might have to work up to 1/10 of the time when you're done.
Education makes you more attractive, happier and a better person.
It sounds more like you are in the wrong classes if it doesn't give you anything.
You can not always go back to school, it's plain wrong, as wrong as calling your view rational. It's highly irrational and naive. What if times get really bad? Then you are fucked - not of you are in an irreplaceable position. Not to mention that education is an absolute must for getting the good women.
Change the subject of your studies and do it in a way that will give you a half a year off.
Don't be a stupid kid, you will regret it.
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Bitter Cactus
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Murzelpfrumpft said: You will be wasting years and years of your life if you decide against education. In my opinion, education respective higher payment is not for making more money but to work less. You might have to work up to 1/10 of the time when you're done.
Education makes you more attractive, happier and a better person.
It sounds more like you are in the wrong classes if it doesn't give you anything.
You can not always go back to school, it's plain wrong, as wrong as calling your view rational. It's highly irrational and naive. What if times get really bad? Then you are fucked - not of you are in an irreplaceable position. Not to mention that education is an absolute must for getting the good women.
Change the subject of your studies and do it in a way that will give you a half a year off.
Don't be a stupid kid, you will regret it.

I find women with a degree way more attractive then a non educated girl. Like I got an eye appointment and this 25 year old chick did my eye tests and I found that attractive cause it means she has an education and money and isn't a freeloading hippy like OP wants to be.
I wish I never became an addict cause I would be on my third year right now. But nothing is gonna stop me I am gonna get that degree and get a high paying job.
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Murzelpfrumpft
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No don't worry, I'm sure you learned a lotfrom your drug episodes, I do know chicks dig that. What you obviously gained is appreciation for your education. All the kids I study psychology with don't value what they do and well, they don't know shit about life. What educated people have to fight with is that they are not accepted by people of lower socio-economic circles and I do somehow understand that. However this doesn't happen to me because people sense that I've been through a lot of shit and thus I seem to have achieved a little bit of "street credibility" which is very valuable.
Another aspect is that you are much more capable of organizing the new information if you are older. Your thinking has more structure and I can tell a huge difference to my younger colleagues.
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Bitter Cactus
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It just irks me that I could be graduating in two years if I never did meth, but now graduation is more then three years away.
I am gonna graduate though I am doing well in my classes. I just wasted one year doing meth and the next year doing nothing.
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Murzelpfrumpft
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A year is really not much, I lost 2 years due to my accident, a year because of working a office job that turned out to be very harmful for my mental health and two years studying biology because you can get close to zero job with that here. I dont consider any of that wasted time, it has made me who I am today. You don't notice what experiences you'd be missing if you hadn't fucked around for a year.
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Murzelpfrumpft said:
Education makes you more attractive, happier and a better person.
Right... I must have mistaken myself for a sick, miserable, unkept person all this time i've been in school. And all the reading, learning, self-care and passion-developing I did when I left school must have never really happened either. Glad you both have this down to a simple equation that works for everyone.
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I just noticed in general, women who are educated seem happier, have a better self esteem, have a purpose and seem way more attractive.
Drop outs are missing something that someone with a degree has.
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Ok well it's clear that everything I have to save is going in one ear and out the other
And also bc, i don't wanna be a freeloading hippie, i wanna be a self reliant one but im sure you have heaps of wisdom about that to teach me about in my,naive ways
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22293698 - 09/26/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Ok well it's clear that everything I have to save is going in one ear and out the other
And also bc, i don't wanna be a freeloading hippie, i wanna be a self reliant one but im sure you have heaps of wisdom about that to teach me about in my,naive ways
I think you are just not liking the fact that you need to put in a lot of effort in college to be successful and you would rather just get high and take psychedelic drugs instead.
College is the best investment a person can make. You obviously have to pay a lot for the education, but for most people it is way worth it and you pay off those debts and you get a nice house, have a good career that you like and true happiness.
You may be one of the people saying "fuck the system, fuck college, fuck this I am doing it my own way". Honestly though nobody cares. People with education are good people and they have found what they want to do and are good at it and have direction.
If you have skills like you are a plumber or you can build a house or you can work heavy machinery or you are a carpenter that is cool too. But unless you have a really good skill you are no better then a random immigrant who is a floor cook at McDonalds.
Get the education IMO.
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Murzelpfrumpft
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22293706 - 09/26/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have very well read what you posted and I have directly addressed several of your thoughts. You're just behaving immature and a little dickish.
You just want to hear that you should drop out.
So go ahead and waste yearsof your time and your mental and physical health on stupid minimum wage jobs. Chances are good that you will never realize what you miss out.
@jackson metaller:
I did study biology at a university that keeps a hardcore focus on chemistry. I do very well know how frustrating that was. You just don't seem to love biochemistry. There are HUGE differences in how much stress the different educational branches mean. Psychology is a fucking cake walk compared to biology with heaps of free time.
There is some educational path that will fulfill you, I'm sorry you haven't found it yet. You've probably gone to far for just re-orienting. I think it's very unlikely to find what you like best at the first try, how could you possibly know?
If your family will save you from poverty and wasting your life & health on minimum wage, quit what makes you sick. There is no need for formal education if you are well-off. I have developed a real interest for chemistry a year after studying biology. I hated it during college.
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Giftofdeprivation
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I think you are missing the point. You should tone down your know-it-all demeanor, too, that won't reach ANYone.
After about two years of toiling in minimum wage hell, he's going to have more life experience, better prospects and options in general (that can only be granted by experience) and he/she can reinvest his time and money in something where he/she can actually benefit and enjoy. It sounds like he/she is looking for self-growth and isn't on a path to opiates or whatever, to just drop him out of the race. It sounds like he/she is looking for experiences and perspective. What's wrong with that?
Time is running out in the sense that mental acuity is in decline after the age of 25, but regardless, you CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO SCHOOL. You won't be as smart as we, elite, who went to school for 16+ years of our young, developmentally strong lives, but shit, you'll probably be happier!
Save the debt, get oriented, then break the glass ceiling. Breaking that ceiling for the sake of is much like the story of Icarus.
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Bitter Cactus
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Flipping burgers and taking psychedelic drugs and all that sounds great but it isn't. You are gonna wish you went to school.
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Giftofdeprivation
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That's sensationalist garbage. You can go to school in two years, you can go in twelve. It's a tool that can help or hurt depending on how you use it, not some divine mode of progression.
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I think it is a good idea to get a degree when you are young so in your early/ mid twenties you are a productive member of society.
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Giftofdeprivation
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Define productive. How many BA holders get shoved in dead-end jobs because they got a degree in philosophy, psychology, religion, history, arts, I could go on, but have no intention to actually use it for the graduate school they'd need to work in one of those fields?
So many people go to school because it's what society laid out for them, but they could have started their own business or found a niche that suits them better.
You don't have to go to school to be a productive member of society. It HELPS, but it isn't mandatory and many are actually detrimenting their future with superfluous educations and debts.
Like I said, I got a psych degree from a good, expensive school that I value for personal growth, but as far as usefulness and marketability (being a productive member of society), I'm better off without the $60,000 of debt. I wouldn't change what I did, much, but I'd probably have taken a year to reflect, then chosen a practical degree, while taking a ton of psych classes as electives while I'm there.
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Giftofdeprivation
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I do, however agree that school can help open you up to more options as well, but if you aren't engaged, as OP seems to suggest, there are other options that may be more engaging.
I also see the developmental aspect that you are promoting; go while you are young, or you'll never develop the discipline to study... I'd say OP probably never will develop that. Only so many people get off by reading books. there are a million paths to enlightenment.
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Generally going to school and getting a good degree (that is useful not philosophy) sets yourself up for success. There is no debate that people who go to post secondary have higher wages then other folks.
I really think OP needs to man up, do his homework and achieve success. I think he is just avoiding it cause it requires effort on his part. Not everything you do is supposed to be fun. Often times though you are choosing a degree because the subject interests you and you can make money with it. That is a great combo but sometimes studying any subject in school is tedious and boring but you gotta just do it or you can flip burgers are a dingy fast food restaurant your whole life.
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Let's just agree that he shouldn't drop out. And let's agree that going to college makes you more successful on average. Although I'm an individual and statistics don't mean much to an individual.
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Giftofdeprivation
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: impatientguy]
#22294231 - 09/26/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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impatientguy said: Let's just agree that he shouldn't drop out.
I just want more people to see college as an institution that is a lifelong tool.
He SHOULD drop out, but he should also go back in a year or two. I think more adults should go back to school too.
Let me give you another perspective: My aunt has a PhD in philosophy and was a professor for about 8 years before she got burnt out. She spent 3 years during the economic collapse fighting for a job at McDonalds or ANYthing to keep her dog and kid fed. She was too overqualified. It wasn't her resume, or her approach, it was the market and her marketability for having such an advanced degree. It closed a lot of doors for her. When she started leaving that off her resume, she started getting hits.
She managed to get into an entry level job, helping youth discover life paths. She mostly works with drop outs to help them get into trade schools, build resumes, and grapple life in and out of high school and now she loves her job This job requires a BA and she could have stopped there.
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