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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22285865 - 09/24/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Remember, college is a privilege. Lots of people would give both their testicles and some of their toes for a chance at a post secondary education.
You need to realize how lucky you are and to throw it away for drugs is not a good look. It happened to me do not do it. I am happy to be back in school, it sucks but at the same time you need to learn to enjoy it.
Enjoy learning. Enjoy expanding your mind. You do not need drugs to expand your mind. You can just go to school and get way better life lessons that do not require psychedelics.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22285953 - 09/24/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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To give you another perspective, I really enjoyed school, regardless of the debt. After moving through the core BS, I got to take a lot of courses that changed the way I think and approach life. I loved my religion, psychology, linguistics, statistics, history, and philosophy courses. There was also a huge emphasis on broader perspectives and diversity, which opened me to a lot of ideas and perceptions (options) of the world. If you aren't able to apply it to a future degree though, why incur the debt? I'd just find a path, then go all out. You'll be eligible for more grants and scholarships now, but you can almost always get loans.
What kind of things do you enjoy doing, if not school? Why are you disinterested in school?
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Bitter Cactus
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Also, school does not always have to be fun. It is work! Sometimes you might want to get a gun and blow your brains out at the thought of all the assignments and homework and essays you have to write, but at the end of the day it is worth it.
It can be fun sometimes, but sometimes you need to just buckle down. Nobody said life was easy but struggle is what builds character. Smoking marijuana cigarettes and drinking in dingy apartments instead of going to school is not building character.
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You're young and adventurous. That's good. Go have adventures.
You'll be older and more serious before you know it. It's not a bad thing, you just change, the brain changes.
Have fun!

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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: circastes]
#22286692 - 09/25/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The early years of college do feel like a high school extension. That is to be expected. I wish I could tell you that next semester will be better, but I sort of had that feeling until I got into grad school or at least into my Jr/Sr year in college.
That said, a lot of college is what you put into it. You notice from Bitter Cactus's posts that he's getting a lot out of going back to school (I think those were his posts that I read earlier today) and that's because it's his second time around. I used to see that a lot from people who were coming back to college after some time away. They realized that they WANTED to be there, and that significantly affects the classes themselves. If you're only giving it the minimum, then do not be surprised if that's all you get out of it. Freshmen and sophomore years can be great if you are passionate about your classes (pending you have good teachers). But I don't really get a sense that you're passionate about being there, so it's to be expected that you've got more of the *bla* ahead.
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yeah it can feel about the same as high school at times. As far as not knowing what you want to do, your gen Ed classes and electives are a good way to get exposure. Most people don't know what they want to do when they go in and only figure out after taking a class they enjoy. I think in any path you choose you'll have to stick around a bit to see what the options are
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Do you guys think leaving for a while to travel around a little and just fuck around would be a bad idea?
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22287974 - 09/25/15 11:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just get your degree done then fuck around after IMO. Just get er done tho.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22287998 - 09/25/15 11:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OP only you know what's best for you. If you really feel inclined to drop out then do so. Why go through something you're not passionate about?
I did exactly what you want to do in my 20's. I opted to work and fuck around for a good minute before I went back to school. I am on the verge of graduating in 2 semesters and it feels great.
The funny thing is that once I came back for school, taking drugs and fucking around became the last thing on my mind since I got that out of my system early on.
It's funny to read your post because that is the position a lot of the youngsters here at school go through, they jump right in after high school and never give themselves the opportunity to take a much needed break. They usually end up fucking up and dropping out with a great amount of debt with nothing to show for it.
Follow your heart OP.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Sham87]
#22288011 - 09/25/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I did exactly what you want to do in my 20's. I opted to work and fuck around for a good minute before I went back to school. I am on the verge of graduating in 2 semesters and it feels great.
The funny thing is that once I came back for school, taking drugs and fucking around became the last thing on my mind since I got that out of my system early on.
It's funny to read your post because that is the position a lot of the youngsters here at school go through, they jump right in after high school and never give themselves the opportunity to take a much needed break. They usually end up fucking up and dropping out with a great amount of debt with nothing to show for it.
Follow your heart OP.
I never went to college the first time.
I did end up getting all the partying and shit out of my system tho. Right now the last thing on my mind is drugs lol I just wanna do well on my degree.
You are signed up already bro just do it. You don't wanna be flipping burgers and being a stinky hippy forever. College is for people that want a good life.
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So for those of you who spent time out of college, or dropped the idea altogether... How did you make ends meet?
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OP, if you want to party, do an event management course and start going to heaps of parties. Build a network of young DJs, artists and VJs. Meet people from a good crowd and contact venues to start throwing your own parties. You can make money off knowing how to party, you know.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: GoldenEye]
#22288210 - 09/25/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's an interesting idea. I always kinda had this idea of just spending a shit load of money on like a hundred hits of L or something and just going around to different concerts and festivals etc and just selling acid and tripping. Make enough to buy some more acid, save the profit and then do it all over again
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22288323 - 09/25/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: That's an interesting idea. I always kinda had this idea of just spending a shit load of money on like a hundred hits of L or something and just going around to different concerts and festivals etc and just selling acid and tripping. Make enough to buy some more acid, save the profit and then do it all over again
No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
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Anonymous said: That's an interesting idea. I always kinda had this idea of just spending a shit load of money on like a hundred hits of L or something and just going around to different concerts and festivals etc and just selling acid and tripping. Make enough to buy some more acid, save the profit and then do it all over again
No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
If you haven't noticed, I've been trying to ignore you, as I don't think you're a member of much value. Please stop posting in this thread
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#22289262 - 09/25/15 04:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: That's an interesting idea. I always kinda had this idea of just spending a shit load of money on like a hundred hits of L or something and just going around to different concerts and festivals etc and just selling acid and tripping. Make enough to buy some more acid, save the profit and then do it all over again
No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
If you haven't noticed, I've been trying to ignore you, as I don't think you're a member of much value. Please stop posting in this thread
Despite whatever reputation you think he has, everyone has value and his perspective is valid as well. No offence, but he's not wrong that that is an immature view... I don't think it's the wrong view by any means, but BC is thinking more long term, which is ideal, but may not be for you where you are at now .
To put it into perspective: I have a (very successful) drug dealer friend who makes connections, networks well, and has a lot of really good connections and outlets. Some of the best LSD and MDMA goes through this guy at some amazing prices. That said, he still has a shitty factory job to make ends meet (you can't pay your way in life as a drug dealer unless you get into high risk, highly popular stuff, like coke, meth, or heroin). He also dreams of opening his own motorcycle shop and is making strides to get that rolling, while hustling and selling drugs. He's 22, where you are probably closer to 18-19 and he was just going to raves and making connections at your age, so I mean, it might be viable 
So BC's advice was correct that you are only thinking about 2-3 years out. College could set you on a path that will sustain you for the rest of your life, or just for the 4 years you attend. It's all what you make of it!
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22289287 - 09/25/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: That's an interesting idea. I always kinda had this idea of just spending a shit load of money on like a hundred hits of L or something and just going around to different concerts and festivals etc and just selling acid and tripping. Make enough to buy some more acid, save the profit and then do it all over again
That's not at all what I was thinking. I was thinking in a lot more sustainable and professional terms.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: GoldenEye] 1
#22289395 - 09/25/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Get the degree out of the way and then you are golden.
Like I said, college is a not a right by any means. It is a privilege.
Lots of people around the world would give both their testicles and most of their toes and even a couple fingers to have the opportunity to go to post secondary education.
To throw it away for drugs and thugs and dingy hotel rooms instead of having a good life is not a good move. You have some decisions to make.
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That's not at all what I was thinking. I was thinking in a lot more sustainable and professional terms.
Yea, I mean that isn't an idea that I'd actually ever pursue. It's just kinda one of those high ideas that I get after smoking a bowl and think "Man, wouldn't that be crazy?" But I am aware that it sounds a lot better in my high daze than it would turn out to be irl.
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Anonymous said: That's an interesting idea. I always kinda had this idea of just spending a shit load of money on like a hundred hits of L or something and just going around to different concerts and festivals etc and just selling acid and tripping. Make enough to buy some more acid, save the profit and then do it all over again
No offense but this sounds like a really immature idea.
Get your degree and get off the drugs IMO.
If you haven't noticed, I've been trying to ignore you, as I don't think you're a member of much value. Please stop posting in this thread
Despite whatever reputation you think he has, everyone has value and his perspective is valid as well. No offence, but he's not wrong that that is an immature view... I don't think it's the wrong view by any means, but BC is thinking more long term, which is ideal, but may not be for you where you are at now .
To put it into perspective: I have a (very successful) drug dealer friend who makes connections, networks well, and has a lot of really good connections and outlets. Some of the best LSD and MDMA goes through this guy at some amazing prices. That said, he still has a shitty factory job to make ends meet (you can't pay your way in life as a drug dealer unless you get into high risk, highly popular stuff, like coke, meth, or heroin). He also dreams of opening his own motorcycle shop and is making strides to get that rolling, while hustling and selling drugs. He's 22, where you are probably closer to 18-19 and he was just going to raves and making connections at your age, so I mean, it might be viable 
So BC's advice was correct that you are only thinking about 2-3 years out. College could set you on a path that will sustain you for the rest of your life, or just for the 4 years you attend. It's all what you make of it!
You're right, maybe I was a little rude there. BitterCactus, I am well aware that college right now would be the ideal path. I am well aware that life would most likely be easier 5 or 6 years down the road had I gone to college right now, but I just can't see sacrificing 4 years of happiness for 4 years in a place that I'm unhappy and miserable in. I'm trying not to jump to gun and plan to wait a little while to see if things improve, but if it keeps up I really think dropping out would be the best route.
I don't want to live a life where I am constantly telling myself "just a little more shit and then you'll get to the light at the end of the tunnel. just a couple more years of the bullshit" I think that's a cycle that many people are unaware of. They spend their entire lives chasing the next thing that they think will make life better or easier, while never actually enjoying life in the present and appreciating all that they have in this moment. I really think I'd be happier working, at least for a little while.
Here is an example: There is a little Mexican restaurant near my house that is hiring at the moment. Say I get a job there serving or washing dishes or something. My next goal would be to get an apartment of my own. Save up for a little while, meet new people, etc, and then ultimately get a new apartment. Then move on to the next goal, whether that be something as simple of learning to grow shrooms, or planning a road trip with friends, whatever. I would be able to actively pursue goals that excite me, like getting my own place, teaching myself something new like growing shrooms, etc.
There is a novelty that accompanies the part of life that I am in now, these young years. I really just want to savor that for a while and see what it's like out there for a little while, and then if I choose to go to school later on, community college is always an option and from there I could even transfer on to a university if I wanted to at some point. Or I could learn some kind of skill along the way, who knows. My point is, experiencing the 'real world' will allow one of two things to happen. Either I will discover that I am happy that way and continue to live so until I become discontent, or it will give me a new appreciation of the privilege that is college, and will cause me to really get motivated if and when I should reattend
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22289465 - 09/25/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: You're right, maybe I was a little rude there. BitterCactus, I am well aware that college right now would be the ideal path. I am well aware that life would most likely be easier 5 or 6 years down the road had I gone to college right now, but I just can't see sacrificing 4 years of happiness for 4 years in a place that I'm unhappy and miserable in. I'm trying not to jump to gun and plan to wait a little while to see if things improve, but if it keeps up I really think dropping out would be the best route.
I don't want to live a life where I am constantly telling myself "just a little more shit and then you'll get to the light at the end of the tunnel. just a couple more years of the bullshit" I think that's a cycle that many people are unaware of. They spend their entire lives chasing the next thing that they think will make life better or easier, while never actually enjoying life in the present and appreciating all that they have in this moment. I really think I'd be happier working, at least for a little while.
Here is an example: There is a little Mexican restaurant near my house that is hiring at the moment. Say I get a job there serving or washing dishes or something. My next goal would be to get an apartment of my own. Save up for a little while, meet new people, etc, and then ultimately get a new apartment. Then move on to the next goal, whether that be something as simple of learning to grow shrooms, or planning a road trip with friends, whatever. I would be able to actively pursue goals that excite me, like getting my own place, teaching myself something new like growing shrooms, etc.
There is a novelty that accompanies the part of life that I am in now, these young years. I really just want to savor that for a while and see what it's like out there for a little while, and then if I choose to go to school later on, community college is always an option and from there I could even transfer on to a university if I wanted to at some point. Or I could learn some kind of skill along the way, who knows. My point is, experiencing the 'real world' will allow one of two things to happen. Either I will discover that I am happy that way and continue to live so until I become discontent, or it will give me a new appreciation of the privilege that is college, and will cause me to really get motivated if and when I should reattend
Dude, that's as rational a view as any I've seen. I wish I had that perspective when I was your age. I really like the "light at the end of tunnel" analogy, because that is really a poor way to live your life if you don't even have a light waiting for you at the end (you don't without a plan, really and that's what society tends to push people to do, which is egregious in my opinion). Find your light and work on the little things for now. You can ALWAYS go back to school! Always always always.
:thumbsup: I'm glad you found a direction here, man, good luck!
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