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Should I drop out of college?
#22283789 - 09/24/15 12:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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At this point in my life I really just wanna fuck around. I want to smoke pot and trip and grow shrooms and get drunk and just fuck around in general. I want to go to different festivals and shit and do acid and I want to just have a good time with friends and enjoy being a kid for a while. I feel almost out of place in college, and I just don't really want to be there. I just went because I figured it'd be cheaper now than if I went later, and I am unsure of what I'd do otherwise. Is there anything wrong with just wanting to fuck around for a while?
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#22283826 - 09/24/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Tripping and smoking weed doesn't get most people anywhere in life is the problem lol or I would only trip and smoke.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: impatientguy]
#22283860 - 09/24/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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How long have you been in college? How much have you already invested in it? Why are you in college in the first place (just to save money???)? Those are questions that should lead you to an answer.
If it's your first semester and you're feeling this way, then yeah, it might not be a bad idea to step away for awhile and seek some answers to what you want to do with the big picture in life. I mean, getting drunk and smoking weed aren't really long term goals (they can be fun, sure, but they probably aren't going to get you far and you probably won't look back in 20 years and be grateful for that investment in time). At the same time however, smoking a bit and drinking a bit can be done whether you're in college or not. But if you don't have a long term goal for what you want to do with your college degree, then I would absolutely take a step back for a semester or two and ask yourself where you want to be in 10-20 years.
Oh, and this is coming from a former college professor. I worked in the university system for 5 years before quitting last year so that I could walk the Pacific Crest Trail from Mexico to Canada and eat mushrooms and smoke DMT on a weekly basis. So yeah, it all depends on what you're seeking. Try to look at the big picture of life before making your choice though--I wouldn't recommend doing it just because you like being drunk and stoned.
But that's just my two cents. Good luck no matter what choice you make.
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I'm caught in this same position. This is my fifth year of college and I'm not sure i can even make it across the finish line. Figuring out a long term financial plan without a degree is a bitch though. Money is already a major stressor and I'm not even financially independent yet
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Go to school. You have been given a privilege that most people in the world do not get.
That is like being handed something really awesome that so many other people would die to have and work their asses off for, just go get high. 
I dropped out cause of a meth addiction, now that I am in college I am NOT fucking this up. When you get a second chance you grab it by the testicles and you will knock anything down in your path.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22283987 - 09/24/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: Is there anything wrong with just wanting to fuck around for a while?
Absolutely no. I've been in the exact same situation. I won a scholarship to do some studying abroad and stuff, but then I said fuck it lets just fuck around and do acid at festivals. So I did. For a while. Then it got old really fast.
I did all the fuckery I wanted, now I need to do something more serious.
I'd say go for it, just make sure you leave a door open in case you want to go down the college path again.
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Bitter Cactus said: Go to school. You have been given a privilege that most people in the world do not get.
That is like being handed something really awesome that so many other people would die to have and work their asses off for it to get high. 
I'm glad you're enjoying your schooling, but you are still relatively new to that path no offense. This is not a one size fits all solution to a happy life and I would personally rather be dead than continue climbing this ladder. Whether or not it's the right path for OP remains to be seen but is a valid question for him to entertain.
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The hippy mantra is money does not equal happiness.
IMO that is not true.
So many problems are cured with money. Imagine being deep in debt and being able to take that all away. That would be a huge sense of relief. Being able to do what you want more freely and not worry about money and have a good life and all that are all amazing.
Higher wages = higher quality of life no contest. Move to Ethiopia and eat mud pies if you want to argue that point. There is nothing better then financial security and freedom to travel and go skiing and not count each penny you have.
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Bitter Cactus said: The hippy mantra is money does not equal happiness.
IMO that is not true.
So many problems are cured with money. Imagine being deep in debt and being able to take that all away. That would be a huge sense of relief. Being able to do what you want more freely and not worry about money and have a good life and all that are all amazing.
Higher wages = higher quality of life no contest. Move to Ethiopia and eat mud pies if you want to argue that point. There is nothing better then financial security and freedom to travel and go skiing and not count each penny you have.
BC once again... My dad has like 8 houses, several boats, several jetskis, etc. I've had access to prime education. I used to travel out of country and go skiing every year. I am miserable. He is miserable. My sister is miserable. My mom is the only semi-happy person in this family and I can even see the terror in her eyes when she acknowledges what we're going through. Money can be wonderful to those who need it, but it can also make you a slave.
I have a disease called CIDP which means my immune system literally destroys my nerves on a daily basis. This is largely a lifestyle problem. Chronic stress, not having the time to cook a decently healthy meal, not getting enough sunlight and exercise, etc. I'm 23 and my body is already ravaged from the rat race. You know what happiness is for me? Not being in chronic pain. Having friends again. Having time and energy for my passions. I would set most of my modern belongings in flames in an instant if i knew I had a nice field with some food growing on it and some friends to tend to it with. I've got plenty of respect for those who find comfort in the modern way of living and I don't expect you to 'get' my angle, but know that I'm being sincere when I say "fuck this life. i am not happy."
What you say sounds great in an ideological sense but it just doesn't work out that way in reality. Most people get into those debts chasing money in the first place. Trying to be competitive with education and nicer living standards and then they stress off many years of their lives trying to pay that off. True financial security is something very few people experience. And again I want you to understand that I am not saying that chasing high profile careers is a bad thing, it's just not for everyone and you can't say it's objectively better
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I have a disease called CIDP which means my immune system literally destroys my nerves on a daily basis. This is largely a lifestyle problem. Chronic stress, not having the time to cook a decently healthy meal, not getting enough sunlight and exercise, etc. I'm 23 and my body is already ravaged from the rat race.
If it really is a lifestyle problem, then you are doing it wrong for 5 years. When you don't have to worry about money either way and you don't love or value what you are doing in college then gtfo.
What you really should do is go see if they let you interrupt your studies for a year because of your illness. All depending on if your dad wants to pay that and if you want him to pay it. I'd accept that in no time.
You see, I'm an amputee from 18 because of an accident and this is why I developed a "take no shit" attitude. I have already aborted a career that would have made me sick. Fuck that shit. You don't need work to "give structure to your life" - it's just harder to fill your life with meaning if you don't have to work. My accident has gotten me a nice appartment and it does indeed make up a little for that lost limb.
However, half a year of doing "nothing" or just getting better in terms of health has always done a lot for my motivation for college. Try it.
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I just have no idea what I'm in school before other than that it was just the easiest next step, but at the same time i only have this one life to live and i feel like i need to ultimately follow what i really wanna do which is party
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22284704 - 09/24/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's some counter-intuitive advice: do it. Take a year off.
Our society is about going to school to figure yourself out. I never agreed with that. It was only after wasting $60,000 on a BA in psych from a pristigious and high priced private school that I realized I'd much rather cook... I have no prospects for my degree and no desire to continue schooling to gain those prospects.
After the second year out of college, I kinda had the idea of how the world works and how I want to live in it. Some key points I need to reach is an education if I want to compete anywhere (I need to go back for culinary, soon), I need to make at least 45,000 a year by the age of 35. I'm young now, but I need to save for retirement and I'm probably going to have increasing health/dental bills as I age, where my minimum wage job won't help.
Idk about the drinking/smoking/shrooming bit. That should be kept in moderation while achieving real life goals, but never made the primary attraction of this life.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22284764 - 09/24/15 04:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: I just have no idea what I'm in school before other than that it was just the easiest next step, but at the same time i only have this one life to live and i feel like i need to ultimately follow what i really wanna do which is party
I used to see far too many people in your exact situation. I think that the post above^ is completely right. Consider taking some time off to get perspective on your life and figure out what you want to do in the future. It doesn't make sense that society tells kids that they HAVE to go to college or they'll be a failure at life. College can be great if you use it to achieve your goals, but if you're just there because it's an easy next step then it will likely be a massive waste of time and money.
Consider taking some time off and get some perspective. Go on top of a mountain and have a mushroom trip (with a sitter) and ask the universe what you should do with your life. Spend a few months thinking about the answers that you get from that experience. Then proceed accordingly.
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It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
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I have a disease called CIDP which means my immune system literally destroys my nerves on a daily basis. This is largely a lifestyle problem. Chronic stress, not having the time to cook a decently healthy meal, not getting enough sunlight and exercise, etc. I'm 23 and my body is already ravaged from the rat race.
If it really is a lifestyle problem, then you are doing it wrong for 5 years. When you don't have to worry about money either way and you don't love or value what you are doing in college then gtfo.
What you really should do is go see if they let you interrupt your studies for a year because of your illness. All depending on if your dad wants to pay that and if you want him to pay it. I'd accept that in no time.
You see, I'm an amputee from 18 because of an accident and this is why I developed a "take no shit" attitude. I have already aborted a career that would have made me sick. Fuck that shit. You don't need work to "give structure to your life" - it's just harder to fill your life with meaning if you don't have to work. My accident has gotten me a nice appartment and it does indeed make up a little for that lost limb.
However, half a year of doing "nothing" or just getting better in terms of health has always done a lot for my motivation for college. Try it.
I actually took a good bit of time off. Honestly it was the best time of my life. I'm studying biochem so naturally the illness presented an intriguing mystery to me that I was determined to solve. From there I started branching out into understanding other inflammatory disorders. Reading literature day in and day out. Didn't feel a damned bit like work. Started entertaining the idea of pursuing functional medicine which is why I went back to school. 3 weeks in all I can think is how much I hate my life. It seems kind of drastic but it's brought me back to a mentality of neglecting sleep, studying irrelevant material constantly, downing caffeine, then getting zooted to bring my mind back down to a reasonable plane. By the time it's all done I have no interest or energy to engage the literature I had fallen in love with. Same kind of deal happened to me with music when I entered college. I've just never handled the standardized learning approach very well which is why I'm afraid if I take more time off it would be the end of it
I appreciate your support though. Certainly wouldn't have gotten that from my folks
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22285002 - 09/24/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
Sounds like a reasonable approach. I don't know what your school is like but freshmen year was my best so it might be worth it to give it a chance. Plenty of drugs and stuff to be had freshmen year Also, just some personal advice based on my own experience... Make sure if you go to festivals and trip to meet people, that you're also focusing on personal growth and other things outside of drug use/music. This is one of those lifestyles where far more people engage it in their 20s than are committed to it long term so you can expect a lot of your friendship circles to dissipate if you don't form more permanent and niche interests. And don't get me wrong, plenty of interesting lifestyles exist within those circles to explore. ie performance arts, glasswork, ecosustainable type things, etc are some of the ones i've come across.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22285113 - 09/24/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous said: It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
I don't like this idea.
You are just lost. I was there.
Go to school and find yourself boy smoking weed and doing drugs is not a good idea. School is just like four years get it done then relax IMO. I wish I did it that way instead of slacking off then doing school and being behind everyone else.
If all you learnt from tripping is that you want to quit school to trip I think the knowledge you are getting from psychedelics is not good.
Reality is this. Life is a bitch. In order to do stuff you need money. In order to get money you need a degree or you need to have a skill or trade.
You need to be useful in some way to other people to make money. IMO once you find something you like that you can make a lot of money with then you have a good life. Go to school and it will suck dick at first but IMO it is worth it. Getting a degree is a good investment I don't care what anyone says.
Money = pussy
Money = freedom
Money does not equate to happiness, but nothing is wrong with having a ton of money and being a happy person.
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Anonymous said: It's only my first semester, so I think I'm gonna try to give it a year and if I don't feel any different by May then it may be best to take some time off.
I just feel like going to festivals and shit and tripping will draw me closer to people who are more similar to myself. People who are in situations similar to mine.
I'd love to buy a van and travel around, how much can one get a used shitty van for?
Sounds like a reasonable approach. I don't know what your school is like but freshmen year was my best so it might be worth it to give it a chance. Plenty of drugs and stuff to be had freshmen year Also, just some personal advice based on my own experience... Make sure if you go to festivals and trip to meet people, that you're also focusing on personal growth and other things outside of drug use/music. This is one of those lifestyles where far more people engage it in their 20s than are committed to it long term so you can expect a lot of your friendship circles to dissipate if you don't form more permanent and niche interests. And don't get me wrong, plenty of interesting lifestyles exist within those circles to explore. ie performance arts, glasswork, ecosustainable type things, etc are some of the ones i've come across.
My college is more of a small college (5000 people or so) in a rural area so although everyone drinks, there isn't a big drug scene. I know it seems like a cliche thing to say but I really feel that I need to find myself. I am confused as to what path I should be pursuing in life and I am tired of feeling isolated and like I'm wasting my time.
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Re: Should I drop out of college? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#22285674 - 09/24/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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College is a lot of things, but something it is not is a waste of time. Whether or not you use that knowledge does not matter. College makes you a higher thinking person.
The hippies will disagree with me but whatever. I do think it makes you able to critically think more about the world.
It will give you a perspective on life a thousand trips could never teach you.
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So far it really just seems like a slightly more mature extension of high school but I'm trying to give it more time
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