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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: blackdust]
    #22287775 - 09/25/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The ratio of spawn to fruit would be way lower than mine though..which is the whole point of this thread :rolleyes:


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: kyoung757]
    #22287832 - 09/25/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Im not putting all of my eggs in one basket.. just one egg :rolleyes:



And that 1 egg could have been split into a bunch of smaller eggs.. so technically yes you're putting your potential eggs into 1 basket.


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: Mad Season]
    #22288077 - 09/25/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How?

Split the spawn substrate mix into different smaller tubs?

What would be the purpose?


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: kyoung757]
    #22288093 - 09/25/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

move along
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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: kyoung757]
    #22288161 - 09/25/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What would be the purpose?



This is what I am wondering, a quart jar of WBS is about 25 cents, you can g2g that to 10 more jars for a whopping grand total of 2.50$ What are we saving here? Sorry if I am missing something.


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22288173 - 09/25/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:
I understand.
Good luck though Kyoung757. Keep us posted.


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: kyoung757]
    #22288214 - 09/25/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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kyoung757 said:
How?

Split the spawn substrate mix into different smaller tubs?

What would be the purpose?




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On Fri Jul 17 2015 08:31 AM, Mad Season said:
Good question :smile: there's a ridiculous amount of upsides to fruiting trays in monos over just using a mono.

One of them being I can test a lot of stuff in a limited space. Also with so much going on I get way more experience from doing so many small trays as opposed to a few big tubs.

Contaminations like trich or cobweb can get isolated in a small tray as opposed to a whole tub. That's a major plus to me because I am losing WAY less. I'd rather lose 3 qts of sub over 12+.

Dirty spawn can be isolated and tested. By doing so I have been able to show how much bacteria can effect yields.


Can you guess which one made which?



Each tray gets filled with 2-3 qts of substrate to make 3 inches, and a half a quart of spawn. I fruit them in 105 qt monos. That's 8-12 qts of substrate and 2 qts of spawn per tub to make the 4 trays. That's like half the materials used to make a 105 qt tub. Which is 18-22 qts with at least 5 qts of spawn.

You also don't even need 4 trays in the tub. I've fruited with 1 tray in the tub that fits 4 trays lol. Just gotta mist a little more and have top holes filled. Normally I have half the top holes open. I like to case them too. I've noticed a big difference with casings on a low spawn ratio.



This is what I do. Trays in a mono. This came from the lowest spawn ratio I've ever done. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21805715

So overall I use half the amount of substrate that would be needed to make a tub, so I could split it into 2 tubs. I have a lot less to lose if I see a contamination, I get more yield due to the spread surface area of the split substrates, and it's much more convenient to always have tubs dialed in for fruiting. This is just my opinions on if you want to see some success.

But yeah in terms of cost and success, do high spawn ratios.. it's not hard at all and costs next to nothing.



P.S. this same principle applies to mini monos. It's just much more obvious with trays in monos. This is just what I developed to suit my needs :P


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: Mad Season]
    #22288698 - 09/25/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I really like that you can fit 4 trays in a tub. I wanna find some that fit!

Looks useful for testing isolates too, Ill usually end up with 8 or so isolates out of a culture that need to then get tested, this way you could get them all in 2 tubs!


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22288709 - 09/25/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Time..

You can only fit so many jars in the pc to sterilize

Storage Space..

You can only hold so many jars in the pantry, cubboard or closet


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: kyoung757]
    #22288741 - 09/25/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

that could only fit a single quart jar layed on its side
haha. But an upgrade to a 60$ Presto. 23qts or the AA . That's about the same size can fit 10 quart jars in a cycle.


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Re: monotub one jar of spawn [Re: kyoung757]
    #22288902 - 09/25/15 03:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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kyoung757 said:
Time..

You can only fit so many jars in the pc to sterilize

Storage Space..

You can only hold so many jars in the pantry, cubboard or closet



Ok, I gotcha. And I feel you on storage, easy to underestimate how much space this hobby can take up. The wife's always bitching about stuff in the fridge and closet, lol. @ Mad- damn good idea dude:thumbup:


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