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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koods]
#22289051 - 09/25/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: It's Saudi Arabia. They take that shit seriously. I knew an American couple who worked in a compound for foreigner working in Saudi Arabia (yes... Most foreigners live in compounds separated from the citizens). The woman could not leave the compound without her husband. Saudi Arabia is the most disgusting country with the most disgusting culture on the planet, maybe North Korea is worse. Maybe.
At least North Korea has some humor. Islam, it gets people killed and it is still boring as fuck.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22289106 - 09/25/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why? Other gangbangers have greater license to kill gangbangers than the duly appointed representatives of the people?
I for one pay cops to kill that scum whenever necessary.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#22289122 - 09/25/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm sure this is all just propaganda, though. Probably just a vast conspiracy to make people hate muslims. I'm sure if you actually go to Saudi Arabia it is super chill.
Even though I actually personally know a person from SA and if a Saudi man sees her without her hiijab and abaya on while in the US, and he decides to report her, she could be severely punished. It's all just propaganda, though. Even people from Saudi Arabia are in on it.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#22289147 - 09/25/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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FlyOnTheWall said:

I'm sure this is all just propaganda, though. Probably just a vast conspiracy to make people hate muslims. I'm sure if you actually go to Saudi Arabia it is super chill.
Even though I actually personally know a person from SA and if a Saudi man sees her without her hiijab and abaya on while in the US, and he decides to report her, she could be severely punished. It's all just propaganda, though. Even people from Saudi Arabia are in on it.
Saudi Arabia sucks.
Despite the tough censorship and human rights issues, the people are mostly okay with it. In fact, a recent poll found most women in Saudi Arabia agree they shouldn't be allowed to have driver's licenses.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22289150 - 09/25/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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336 said: All I'm trying to do is get people to understand that it isn't just the Muslims who are treating women badly and killing people. It's a human problem.
I will absolutely agree to that, but I do think Islam is due for some pretty serious criticism. But yes, all humans definitely have their problems.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: D.M.T]
#22289166 - 09/25/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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D.M.T said: Despite the tough censorship and human rights issues, the people are mostly okay with it. In fact, a recent poll found most women in Saudi Arabia agree they shouldn't be allowed to have driver's licenses.
Yeah, that is the scariest thing dude. The woman I know from SA doesn't wear a full veil, but she can hardly even look people in the eye. She is constantly making desperate apologies, because she always thinks she has done something horribly wrong. Everything is almost a disaster with her.
It is just like talking to someone who has been severely abused.
edit: One cool thing that happened, though - one of her friends back in Saudi Arabia took some pictures of herself without her veil on and even exposed some upper arm (scandalous, I know). She sent the pics to the chick I know and asked her to show them to people in America. She showed them to me, and it was hilarious/disturbing how they were really getting a thrill out of doing something that (to me) seemed completely non-scandalous.
tl:dr I got to see the upper arm of one of the wives of some Saudi dude. It was totally scandalous and hawt
Edited by FlyOnTheWall (09/25/15 04:40 PM)
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22289592 - 09/25/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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336 said:
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FlyOnTheWall said:

I'm sure this is all just propaganda, though. Probably just a vast conspiracy to make people hate muslims. I'm sure if you actually go to Saudi Arabia it is super chill.
Even though I actually personally know a person from SA and if a Saudi man sees her without her hiijab and abaya on while in the US, and he decides to report her, she could be severely punished. It's all just propaganda, though. Even people from Saudi Arabia are in on it.
True the U.S. has made improvements. That said my point still stands when it comes to the amount of Americans being killed by other Americans. Also I'd like to say that I personally would rather get executed then be imprisoned/enslaved for life; while probably getting raped and later on killed in prison regardless. lol
So you'd rather get executed then do a couple years of prison time for drug offences
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22290083 - 09/25/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You have a link for this dude? I'd like to read about it
edit: nvm found it
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: Supachopped719]
#22290486 - 09/25/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Supachopped719 said: Anybody have any ideas on what caused the stampede? I don't believe the poor planning excuse for a few reasons.
Firstly I've been to some massive events such as thanksgiving day parade in New York, multiple New Years in San Francisco, as well as a couple massive 4/20 celebrations. Each one had hundreds of thousands of people crammed into just a couple city blocks. Never have I heard of a stampede killing even a couple people.
These events were also filled with people just completely obliterated on drugs or alcohol. This pilgrimage is in Saudi Arabia where everyone is sober as you can get. No booze in the whole country.
These events also had bottleneck choke points at some point where almost the whole crowd had to travel through a narrow area all at once when the events abruptly ended. Haven't heard of any deaths due to trampling.
I've even been In two stampedes. One at four twenty in golden gate park a couple years ago when right in the middle of this crowd of thousands upon thousands of people some one pulled out a gun. The people closest to the action bolted in all directions and cause a ripple effect and pretty much half the park was empty within moments.
The other was at an event called first Friday in Oakland, thousands of people on the streets of downtown Oakland for art and food and music and community. Again some knuckle head pulled a Gun and caused every one to scatter. Much smaller crowd but still.
I think one possibility is a gun was pulled in the middle of the crowd which caused hysteria. If this happened I think the Saudi government would cover it up. I mean just look at what people in the west have already been saying about this, now imagine if it was known to be caused by a violent Muslim. Everyone would be going even harder against Islam.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22291160 - 09/26/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said:
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FlyOnTheWall said:

I'm sure this is all just propaganda, though. Probably just a vast conspiracy to make people hate muslims. I'm sure if you actually go to Saudi Arabia it is super chill.
Even though I actually personally know a person from SA and if a Saudi man sees her without her hiijab and abaya on while in the US, and he decides to report her, she could be severely punished. It's all just propaganda, though. Even people from Saudi Arabia are in on it.
True the U.S. has made improvements. That said my point still stands when it comes to the amount of Americans being killed by other Americans. Also I'd like to say that I personally would rather get executed then be imprisoned/enslaved for life; while probably getting raped and later on killed in prison regardless. lol
So you'd rather get executed then do a couple years of prison time for drug offences

I have a friend who visits Saudi Arabia every year, and he's told me like half the people there smoke weed and drink beer. Although it's pretty underground. His first time toking was in Saudi Arabia when he was a teen.
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