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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284134 - 09/24/15 02:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: It's because we value free thought that we find Islam so repulsive.
I won't nor should anyone have any respect for an ideology that wouldn't waste a second repressing and killing you for being a free thinker.
Lol @ your hypocrisy. You're criticizing some other group of people for not supporting the freedom of thought and yet that is exactly what you are doing. lol
So let them handle their shit.. they'll be fine. Right? What does it matter what anyone else thinks... right? Let them lay in the bed they made..
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koods] 1
#22284141 - 09/24/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i put it kind of like this....
i am a baptized Mormon, i am completely non practicing, it happened when i was a child.
here is the spectrum people like me who the church are still on occasion until they find out i am gay try to save me all the way to polygamist communities where old guys swap one another their 8 year old girls to add to their cadre of wives.
islam is the same way, relatively normal people practicing and full on crazies.
do you really blame people for practicing an ideology that has been what they are conditioned to since birth?
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284158 - 09/24/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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336 said: I mean yeah. Every group on earth has it's problems instead of trying to solve our problems we're always focused on demonizing everyone else for their problems. It's typical human behavior. Try and demean someone else in an effort to forget about your own problems and shortfalls.
I don't know, man. I'd say we demonize ourselves quite fine here in the states.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284160 - 09/24/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Millions of people converge on a big box containing a meteorite. Fucking lunacy.
Millions of people pair up with the same gender when humans were obviously organically designed to pair up with the opposite sex.
And you should absolutely be able to say that, 336! Free speech!
But, if gay people said "Anybody who says something that disagrees with us should be punished", that would be a problem.
That is what Islam does all the time!
Um that's pretty much what gay people are doing now. If anyone publicly comes out denouncing the practices and thoughts that gays have they are eaten alive in the media as close-minded homophobes.
A bunch of people calling somebody a bigot in the media for a few days/weeks is a little different than chopping a person's head off in a public square or stoning somebody to death...maybe not in your mind, but to most people it is a little different.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#22284164 - 09/24/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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and it is true... who the hell hates gay people? how is them fucking the same gender anyone's business other then their own, it just doesn't make sense
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: Niffla]
#22284168 - 09/24/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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336 said: I mean yeah. Every group on earth has it's problems instead of trying to solve our problems we're always focused on demonizing everyone else for their problems. It's typical human behavior. Try and demean someone else in an effort to forget about your own problems and shortfalls.
I don't know, man. I'd say we demonize ourselves quite fine here in the states.
Yeah, the only people I talk more shit about than muslims is probably American politicians and American police officers/military....
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#22284173 - 09/24/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Out of curiosity, how many of you interact on a regular basis with Muslims?
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koraks]
#22284179 - 09/24/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've dated a few
My first boyfriend had pictures of the Aga Khan in his wallet and in every room of his house.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284198 - 09/24/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koraks said: Out of curiosity, how many of you interact on a regular basis with Muslims?
I personally interact with 3 different people who are Muslim on a daily basis.
One is a woman from Jeddah(SA), the other is a woman from Maldives, and the other person is a guy, but TBH, I am not 100% sure he is muslim, I only met him recently.
edit: I should mention that personally knowing a woman from Saudi Arabia and interacting with her is actually one of the reasons I have such strong views on this subject.
I have actually seen in real life how damaging that religion is to people. It is pretty depressing...
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284201 - 09/24/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm about done with this fucking site, this thread is bullshit, I get ban points and a warning because "Some people will find your post not only homophobic by using the word faggot, but extremely offensive to the Catholicism. Please knock it off, it's the pub and it's all supposed to be shroomy here." Because I said the pope wears a fucking dress and because context apparently has no relevance to what words you use since it only matters what other people attach to the word and not what you actually meant by it.
And half these post aren't extremely offensive to Islam/muslims? Oh but there isn't as many of them here, I forgot. Fuck this place and it's favoritism and PC bullshit. I guess muslims aren't supposed to feel welcome and "shroomy" here but god forbid you offend someone elses fairy tale. I'm going to continue melting throughout the remainder of my time on this site since I'm probably going to be banned when someone decides to make up their own meaning for what I say again and report me for it, since that's all it takes.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koraks]
#22284215 - 09/24/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koraks said: Out of curiosity, how many of you interact on a regular basis with Muslims?
I interacted with muslims on a daily basis for 7 years. I worked in the oil & gas field and we assisted muslim transfers.
One of my closest friends actually, whom of which I met through my former employer -- is muslim.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284219 - 09/24/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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336 said: I'm a pretty strong believer in fate. I mean if any of us would have been born into the same body and family and situation as a terrorist or corrupt cop or whatever I believe we would be exactly the same.
IMO We are all the same; only our set and settings vary greatly.
I certainly cannot argue with that. From that perspective, I can't really disagree with anything anybody does.
I am sorry if I come across as hateful, but I just have serious questions about Islam. Many people do, and I think it is important for people to ask those questions and not just worry about being nice all the time.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: Niffla]
#22284221 - 09/24/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeh those crazy bastards are everywhere.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
#22284231 - 09/24/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SirShroomsAlott said: I'm about done with this fucking site, this thread is bullshit, I get ban points and a warning because "Some people will find your post not only homophobic by using the word faggot, but extremely offensive to the Catholicism. Please knock it off, it's the pub and it's all supposed to be shroomy here." Because I said the pope wears a fucking dress and because context apparently has no relevance to what words you use since it only matters what other people attach to the word and not what you actually meant by it.
And half these post aren't extremely offensive to Islam/muslims? Oh but there isn't as many of them here, I forgot. Fuck this place and it's favoritism and PC bullshit. I guess muslims aren't supposed to feel welcome and "shroomy" here but god forbid you offend someone elses fairy tale. I'm going to continue melting throughout the remainder of my time on this site since I'm probably going to be banned when someone decides to make up their own meaning for what I say again and report me for it, since that's all it takes.
Does this make you feel better?
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284240 - 09/24/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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FlyOnTheWall said: These issues are not all the same. Illegal immigrants from mexico have never said anybody who insults tacos should die.
Pretty different situations.
They are the same at the core. They involve the hatred of another group of people. They involve a lack of compassion and understanding. They lack the realization that we are all people just trying to live our lives and some of us are born into terrible genes or terrible families or terrible areas that shape and mold us into certain types of people.
"They involve the hatred of another group of people"
The large majority of the people against illegal immigration are so because of the economic and legal implications (it has nothing to do with hate), it's only people like you that like to start off with the accusations of bigotry without listening to their clear objections.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: Niffla]
#22284247 - 09/24/15 02:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I interacted with muslims on a daily basis for 7 years. I worked in the oil & gas field and we assisted muslim transfers.
One of my closest friends actually, whom of which I met through my former employer -- is muslim.
Whatever bro, you are just an anti muslim islamaphobe and you are intolerant.
I wonder how many people accusing us of intolerance actually interact with muslims regularly...
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284268 - 09/24/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yup. The anti-immigrant crowd in the US are basically racists. It is certainly not based on real world economics, as they are hell bent on kicking out anyone who isn't here "legally" even if it means causing an economic collapse and massive food shortages.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284280 - 09/24/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You sir, are a troll.. well played
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: Amanita86]
#22284314 - 09/24/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The woman I know who is from Saudi Arabia has to be sure she is never seen in public without her hiijab/abaya.
If she isn't appropriately dressed and is seen by a man from her home country, she could be severely punished when she returns to SA (probably whipped).
Even though she was in the US at the time, she could still be punished.
We all just need to be more tolerant, though. Islam is not the issue, it is everybody else.
Afterall, the witness of one man is equal to the witness of two women. Everybody knows women can't be trusted. 
Any man from Saudi Arabia could report her, and his word would be taken as truth.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284317 - 09/24/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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FlyOnTheWall said: These issues are not all the same. Illegal immigrants from mexico have never said anybody who insults tacos should die.
Pretty different situations.
They are the same at the core. They involve the hatred of another group of people. They involve a lack of compassion and understanding. They lack the realization that we are all people just trying to live our lives and some of us are born into terrible genes or terrible families or terrible areas that shape and mold us into certain types of people.
"They involve the hatred of another group of people"
The large majority of the people against illegal immigration are so because of the economic and legal implications (it has nothing to do with hate), it's only people like you that like to start off with the accusations of bigotry without listening to their clear objections.
Since you basically ignored the rest of my post.
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They involve a lack of compassion and understanding. They lack the realization that we are all people just trying to live our lives and some of us are born into terrible genes or terrible families or terrible areas that shape and mold us into certain types of people.
Oh and if you really believe all the hatred aimed at Latin Americans is just because of economics then you're foolish as hell. The majority of the people I know (and I know quite a lot of older white people) who complain about Latin Americans are just racists that use illegal immigration as an excuse for their racism.
If their complaints are just based on the fact that their Latin Americans, then that is racist.
If their issue is with Latin Americans living in the US illegally, then that's completely different and might be totally justified.
I have pointed out lengthy economic reasons for my opposition with illegals coming and staying in the US, so hearing the rhetoric of "an excuse for...racism" doesn't cut it in my opinion.
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