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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22283893 - 09/24/15 01:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: The videos of them lighting people on fire, beheading, mass shootings into rivers, suicide bombings...things like that, probably didnt help their cause... not to mention the declarations of their intentions.
You're talking about violent sects. Of which there are in every religion and every nation and every city for a matter of fact. To try and dehumanize a group of people because a relatively small percent of their population was violent is so foolish to me. 14,827 Americans were murdered by other Americans in 2012; that's more than all the U.S. Military killed in the past 14 years...
Dude, even if their wasn't so much violence in the 'ummah', they still believe women are not as important as men.
How can you seriously be trying to defend such foolishness?
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22283929 - 09/24/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I realize Bacha bazi is not as common throughout the muslim world as it once was, but it is still pretty disgusting that it has become a part of the culture in the first place. Like the problems the catholic church has had, it is definitely a sign that there are some majorly sketchy things going on within the religion.
Of course, in Islam, women are not allowed to speak to any man who is not their husband, brother, or father.
So really it is not surprising that the religion of peace has created a culture where pederasty is common.
It seems to be a human problem as it occurs in nearly every significant human population.
That is very true, but I can't think of another culture where it has reached that level of acceptance.
Even if they didn't ever molest children, they still believe that women are not equal to men.
Until they acknowledge that their religion is wrong about that, I will refuse to pretend like I have respect for silly muslim/allah fantasies.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22283935 - 09/24/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: The videos of them lighting people on fire, beheading, mass shootings into rivers, suicide bombings...things like that, probably didnt help their cause... not to mention the declarations of their intentions.
You're talking about violent sects. Of which there are in every religion and every nation and every city for a matter of fact. To try and dehumanize a group of people because a relatively small percent of their population was violent is so foolish to me. 14,827 Americans were murdered by other Americans in 2012; that's more than all the U.S. Military killed in the past 14 years...
Dude, even if their wasn't so much violence in the 'ummah', they still believe women are not as important as men.
How can you seriously be trying to defend such foolishness?
Lol and America and the majority of the western world doesn't? Look at the leaders of every nation.
There's only an average of 22% of women in parliaments/congresses across the world. And when it comes down to the number of Head of State or Head of Government or President the number only totals 24. Compare that to the hundreds of nations out there and you'll see that treating women as less important than men is one of the most common human practices. This is evident throughout nearly every culture's history as well. Minus some matrilineal societies such as that many of the Native American tribes practiced.
Soooo...because women are treated like shit in other places, we should pretend like Islam isn't a horrible religion?...makes sense
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: Asante]
#22283947 - 09/24/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Asante!

i'm sending you a pm!
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#22283958 - 09/24/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/09/04/the-arab-worlds-wealthiest-nations-are-doing-next-to-nothing-for-syrias-refugees/
It says a lot about the religion when muslims don't even give a shit about each other.
All these muslim refugee don't even want to live in muslim countries anymore, they would all rather live in Europe than move to another muslim country.
Yeah, Islam is working out really well for everybody, definitely not an unusual amount of problems in muslim countries at all. Nope, the middle east is totally normal.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22283994 - 09/24/15 01:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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These people died from an infectious disease called Islam.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koods]
#22284021 - 09/24/15 01:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Islam is a death cult
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/24/timeline-of-tragedies-in-mecca-during-hajj
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2015 24 September: At least 310 are killed and hundreds injured in a stampede in Mina, on the outskirts of the holy city of Mecca.
11 September: In the lead-up to hajj, at least 107 people are killed and nearly 400 wounded when a crane collapses in bad weather, crashing on to the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Islam’s holiest site.
2006 12 January: More than 360 pilgrims are killed in a stampede in Mina,, where pilgrims carry out a symbolic stoning of the devil by throwing pebbles against three stone walls. The day before the hajj begins, an eight-storey building being used as a hostel near the Grand Mosque in Mecca collapsed, killing at least 73 people.
6 January: 76 people die when a hotel collapses in the city centre.
2005 22 January: Three pilgrims are crushed to death in a stampede at the stoning ceremony in Mina.
2004 1 February: A crush of pilgrims at Mina kills about 250 pilgrims and injures hundreds on the final day of the hajj ceremonies.
2003 11 February: 14 devotees, including six woken, die on the first day of the stoning ritual.
2001 5 March: A stampede at Mina during the final day of the pilgrimage ceremonies kills 35 hajj pilgrims.
1998 9 April: More than 118 people are killed and 180 injured in a stampede at Mina.
1997 15 April: 343 pilgrims are killed in a fire at the tent city of Mina as the blaze is aided by high winds. More than 1,500 are injured.
1994 24 May: 270 pilgrims are killed in a stampede during the stoning ritual at Mina, an incident authorities attribute to record numbers of pilgrims at the site.
1990 2 July: A huge stampede occurs in a tunnel at Mina after a failure in its ventilation system kills 1,426 pilgrims, mainly from Asia.
1989 10 July: A twin attack on the outside of the Grand Mosque kills one and wounds 16. Sixteen Kuwaiti Shias are found guilty of the crime and executed weeks later.
1987 31 July: Saudi security forces suppress an unauthorised protest held by Iranian pilgrims. More than 400 people, including 275 Iranians are killed, according to an official toll.
1979 20 November: Hundreds of gunmen opposed to the Saudi government barricade themselves inside the Grand Mosque, taking dozens of pilgrims hostage. The official toll of the assault and subsequent fighting is 153 people dead and 560 wounded.
1975 December: A huge fire started by a gas canister exploding in a pilgrim camp close to Mecca kills 200 people.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws] 1
#22284029 - 09/24/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ha, it's funny, that is usually how people respond when you point out that their belief system is irrational. "FUCK YOU"
Lol, I actually have several friends who are muslim and they are really good people.
I know I sound like I am hating on muslims, but yes, most muslims are good people.
My only REAL issue with the religion, besides intolerance for women's rights, is that it takes itself way too seriously.
When people make fun of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. nobody gives a shit. Sure, people might get angry, but you don't see people seriously talking about starting wars.
That is what makes Islam different. When people make fun of Islam, it is like muslims really think a line has been crossed.
I am not a christian, but people make fun of christianity in the west ALL THE TIME. but in general the christians tolerate it.
It is only with Islam that killing a person for making fun of "allah" is often considered an acceptable response.
I am sorry if that makes me anti-muslim. I think every single muslim that wants out of the middle eastern meltdown should be allowed to immigrate to the US or Europe, under ONE CONDITION.-They should have to let somebody make fun of allah and islam to their face.
If they can react like a normal human being, and just say 'fuck you' or something, instead of starting a religious crusade of justice for the prophet, they should be allowed in the country. 
If you can't deal with people insulting your beliefs, you don't deserve (and are not prepared) to live in the US or Europe.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koods]
#22284040 - 09/24/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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These people died from an infectious disease called Islam.
conflagrating won't work. just call it what it is, a misapprehension of logic.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#22284041 - 09/24/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My only REAL issue with the religion, besides intolerance for women's rights, is that it takes itself way too seriously.
When people make fun of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. nobody gives a shit. Sure, people might get angry, but you don't see people seriously talking about starting wars.
That is what makes Islam different. When people make fun of Islam, it is like muslims really think a line has been crossed.
I am not a christian, but people make fun of christianity in the west ALL THE TIME. but in general the christians tolerate it.
It is only with Islam that killing a person for making fun of "allah" is often considered an acceptable response.
Yeah this is pretty much indisputable.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#22284045 - 09/24/15 01:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ever argue with a Muslim about free speech? They always says shit like "I am totally in favor of free speech, but you can't criticize the prophet Muhammad. ”
Fuck Muhammed. His stupid religion is the worst human made disaster in history.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22284074 - 09/24/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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there seems to be a really blatant fuck em they should all die perspective that really makes me sad. zero consideration that these people are just living the life of that area, any one of us could be one of them really...
hard line to walk between free thoughts and speak and full on bigot blanket statements made in ignorance.
who would have thought so many douche thoughts came from "free thinking" drug users.
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It's because we value free thought that we find Islam so repulsive.
I won't nor should anyone have any respect for an ideology that wouldn't waste a second repressing and killing you for being a free thinker.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koods]
#22284088 - 09/24/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Ever argue with a Muslim about free speech? They always says shit like "I am totally in favor of free speech, but you can't criticize the prophet Muhammad. ”
Fuck Muhammed. His stupid religion is the worst human made disaster in history.
Truth. The entire religion is garbage. Mohammad was not a prophet, and IMO, any person that takes Islam seriously, is either poorly educated, brainwashed, or just silly.
I bet I will get banned now, but if I said that about any other religion it would be fine.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koods]
#22284095 - 09/24/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: It's because we value free thought that we find Islam so repulsive.
This. I've already stated that I wish absolutely no harm on muslims, and I would happily welcome all muslim immigrants into my country, as long as they can tolerate somebody making fun of their religion.
If you can't deal with people insulting your religion, that is your problem. Everybody else is not the problem.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: FlyOnTheWall]
#22284100 - 09/24/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Millions of people converge on a big box containing a meteorite. Fucking lunacy.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: koods]
#22284109 - 09/24/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: It's because we value free thought that we find Islam so repulsive.
I won't nor should anyone have any respect for an ideology that wouldn't waste a second repressing and killing you for being a free thinker.
you are a little more articulate with your opinions and less offensive in your terminology then most though koods.
@ 336
yea we all are somewhere on the spectrum it just seems those less knowledgeable about topics are often the most vocal and the most zealous that there are no other perspective worth knowing other then their's, followed by blanket statement about how everyone else is a tard.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284110 - 09/24/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: dude i need notify the mods, this shit is insulting me.
there seems to be a really blatant fuck em they should all die perspective that really makes me sad. zero consideration that these people are just living the life of that area, any one of us could be one of them really...
hard line to walk between free thoughts and speak and full on bigot blanket statements made in ignorance.
who would have thought so many douche thoughts came from "free thinking" drug users.
Read any topic on this site about Latin Americans, illegal immigrants, Arabs, or Muslims. Its all the same. There are a lot of ignorant and hateful people on this site; which definitely surprised me when I first signed up given that this is a site dedicated primarily to shrooms and psychedelics.
Just proved to me that psychedelics don't help everyone to see past the bullshit.
These issues are not all the same. Illegal immigrants from mexico have never said anybody who insults tacos should die.
Pretty different situations.
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284116 - 09/24/15 02:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: It's because we value free thought that we find Islam so repulsive.
I won't nor should anyone have any respect for an ideology that wouldn't waste a second repressing and killing you for being a free thinker.
Lol @ your hypocrisy. You're criticizing some other group of people for not supporting the freedom of thought and yet that is exactly what you are doing. lol
OMG I'm so intolerant of intolerance. Shoot me. (That's what Islam says should happen to me)
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Re: The Hajj Pilgrimage...700+ people dead.. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22284121 - 09/24/15 02:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Millions of people converge on a big box containing a meteorite. Fucking lunacy.
Millions of people pair up with the same gender when humans were obviously organically designed to pair up with the opposite sex.
And you should absolutely be able to say that, 336! Free speech!
But, if gay people said "Anybody who says something that disagrees with us should be punished", that would be a problem.
That is what Islam does all the time!
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