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Re: a certain temperature needs to be reaxhed to trigger spores to germinate? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22286264 - 09/24/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I feel like I am watching a game of ping pong when I read some of these threads. The great thing about mycology is that the more we experiment with it, the more we will discover. This is the case with all of the sciences and its the main reason I love them so...In veterinary medicine, especially avian medicine, opinions have changed dramatically by leaps and bounds as we have discovered new diseases, testing techniques, husbandry, and nutritional requirements for the animals we care for. In the last 15 years, we have gone from recommending exclusively seed diets to birds to now knowing that those fed solely seed diets actually suffer from cardiac disease and even gout! We have also discovered that certain breeding has influenced husbandry and nutritional requirements. That a wild caught parrot will surely have much different nutritional needs than one selectively bred over multiple generations. Who says this couldn't possibly apply to realm of mycology? Here we are selecting for traits based on appearance, but what we may not know is how that influences that strains ability to germinate of fruit at different temps?

So yes journals out-date rapidly... and I see forums as a form of peer review. So...game on!


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Re: a certain temperature needs to be reaxhed to trigger spores to germinate? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22286363 - 09/24/15 10:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: a certain temperature needs to be reaxhed to trigger spores to germinate? [Re: micro]
    #22288545 - 09/25/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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micro said:
not according to stamets :V





That says substrate temp, its not an incubation temperature recommendation. Many misquote him as saying that. I do find it colonises faster in warmer temps but not worth the risk.

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micro said:
So, tell me... What am I missing? :V



Like many I guess you have not read all the book, and just focused on the cubensis bit. In other sections he specifically warns about heat generation while colonising. At least you are not bad mouthing him and putting words in his mouth, saying he recommends incubating at 86F.

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substrate temp is easy enough to get with an IR thermometer



All the IR thermemoters I ever used were totally shit, I have used several brands including fluke. I do think the temp rise is hugely overestimated. At higher temps growth will be faster and so expect more heat. Some talk as though its a fixed increase of say 5F, at 65F growth will be slower than at say 82F, and so you can expect less of a heat rise. 


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