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OfflinePatlal
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I feel bad for pedophiles. * 1
    #22282663 - 09/24/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.

Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way. It is not a choice that they have. Since this is technically natural for them to be attracted by children, I don't think that sending them to prison (where they will be killed) is the right solution.

It's a cultural factor too. Here, homosexual are ok and pedophile are wrong. In the Middle East, it's the opposite. A man can marry a 12 year old and homosexuals are get there heads chopped off. Who are we to say hat what they believe is wrong? Naturally speaking, when a young girl has her period, she is fertile and younger females make healthier babies. So in a sense, it makes sense.... All the other species are doing it.

So here's my solution. Instead of shaming them, hating them and sending them to there inevitable deaths in prison, why not simply train psychologists to deal with these people. They could walk in anonymously, say they are attracted to children in a sexual way and discuss it openly, without judgement with the doc.

Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?

Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22282673 - 09/24/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, treatment would be preferable. Of course, the counter argument to that is that being abused is so damaging, simply locking them up and getting a 100% chance of them not re-offending may be preferable to treatment that definitely will not have a 100% success rate. I'd still lean toward treatment and monitoring, but the counter argument is not a bad one.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22282676 - 09/24/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The west, treat a mental disorder? That is insanity. It would be useful wanting to touch children. Is sexual orientation determined in the womb? Are all people determined in a similar way how they developed their sexuality? Do post birth experiences play a role?


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22282683 - 09/24/15 08:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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The west, treat a mental disorder? That is insanity. It would be useful wanting to touch children. Is sexual orientation determined in the womb? Are all people determined in a similar way how they developed their sexuality? Do post birth experiences play a role?




It is hard to say, but I don't think a sane adult male would simly "choose" to get a hard on when seeing kids


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #22282689 - 09/24/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?




I do think you make sense and some good points worth discussing, but the difference is as far as the homosexuals & pedophiles comparison goes -- homosexuals do what they do with consent. Whereas pedophiles tend to be predators.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Nifflerz]
    #22282698 - 09/24/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?




I do think you make sense and some good points worth discussing, but the difference is as far as the homosexuals & pedophiles comparison goes -- homosexuals do what they do with consent. Whereas pedophiles tend to be predators.




True. Then againyou would be surprise to see how many minors are willingly having consentual sex with pedophiles in exchange for easy money.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22282710 - 09/24/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?




This will in all likelihood do nothing to prevent someone from offending. May tide them over in the beginning, but eventually it just won't do it and they're going to want more. At that point you're basically encouraging it and that sets a bad precedent.

The best thing you can do is catch them when they're still kids themselves. Juvenile offenders have a lower rate of recidivism than adults. In certain cases, extremely low rates. Treatment is possible, but if you don't catch it early enough, the chances it will work drop significantly.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Nifflerz]
    #22282712 - 09/24/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I do think you make some good points and do not have all the answers and I dont really like talking about it but i was sexually abused when I was in 4th grade and honestly the pain and suffering that man caused me while growing up warranted alot more then 2 years in prison. I'd prefer death for him but i had no say.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22282715 - 09/24/15 09:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the issue is complex. some kids actually wouldn't mind having sex, as perverted as that sounds.

but pedophiles are gross individuals nevertheless. they prey on the innocent and they, as adults, should know better then to assert their sexuality on someone who frankly shouldn't be having sex no matter how mature they are mentally.

but they are handled as well as they can be, either by prison, or by notice's and awareness, and/or by people cracking their heads open over pavement.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22282721 - 09/24/15 09:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't really sympathize with them, I think it's selfish to take a child's innocence and abuse them because you want to fulfill your sexual desires. Yes sending them to prison is harsh and especially for people who might have a mental predisposition but it's still not ok.

I'm reaching that age soon where I can no longer fuck 15 year old girls, I'm not complaining even though I know having sex with young teen girls is a pretty different experience than having sex with older girls :lol: but I'm perfectly content with 17-18+ olds :tongue2:

It's called growing up, people have to understand it's inappropriate for a 21 year old to view a 13 year old in a sexual manner

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22282723 - 09/24/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't really think they're born that way, like gay people...more likely that they were abused or turned on to it at some point externally and that changed their way of seeing it.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22282724 - 09/24/15 09:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:lol: but I'm perfectly content with 17-18+ olds :tongue2:




they are frankly still not competent enough for sexual relationships.

i know, what a party pooper eh? but not really.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22282729 - 09/24/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't really think they're born that way, like gay people...more likely that they were abused or turned on to it at some point and that changed their way of seeing it.



no, gay people are sometimes born gay, sometimes incredibly gay.

i mean, like when they first gain attributes to their character they are gay and have interests in boys. :shrug: not the same thing at all as what you're saying Shlong...doesn't mean people don't simply choose to be gay, however.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22282736 - 09/24/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:lol: but I'm perfectly content with 17-18+ olds :tongue2:




they are frankly still not competent enough for sexual relationships.






A 18 year old isn't competent enough for sex?  Wake up dude, they do porn at 18. :lol:

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: WyoMX] * 1
    #22282742 - 09/24/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There is no treatment for liking kinky things.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #22282751 - 09/24/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.




:picard: Liberal public education.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: qman]
    #22282755 - 09/24/15 09:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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:lol: but I'm perfectly content with 17-18+ olds :tongue2:




they are frankly still not competent enough for sexual relationships.






A 18 year old isn't competent enough for sex?  Wake up dude, they do porn at 18. :lol:



yeah, no, i read that completely wrong. 17, meh...i'm on the fence, but 18 is perfectly logical to have sex...though i still say they aren't competent for a real relationship however.

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Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.




:picard: Liberal public education.



i wonder what a conservative education looks like....

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22282758 - 09/24/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't really think they're born that way, like gay people...more likely that they were abused or turned on to it at some point and that changed their way of seeing it.



no, gay people are sometimes born gay, sometimes incredibly gay.

i mean, like when they first gain attributes to their character they are gay and have interests in boys. :shrug: not the same thing at all as what you're saying Shlong...doesn't mean people don't simply choose to be gay, however.



Did you misread my post, or did I misread your reply?

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22282761 - 09/24/15 09:14 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I said gay people are born that way
Pedos are likely groomed that way

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22282765 - 09/24/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I can defenately point to some things that imprinted on me after birth, though, women have not really ever been particularly attractive(Kristen Bell possibly)


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22282766 - 09/24/15 09:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i think you might have misread mine. you said, essentially, that gay people are never born gay; which implies that is a misapprehension on people's part in understanding how 'gayness' works...i am disagreeing with you on that one, though people can and do still choose to be gay alot of the time.
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I said gay people are born that way
Pedos are likely groomed that way



oh i stand corrected. you said "like gay people" and i thought that was following the statement "I don't really think they're born that way" - you can see how i might have gotten that statement confused for the latter implication.

Edited by akira_akuma (09/24/15 09:28 AM)

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 2
    #22282770 - 09/24/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Also, giving them child porn to quell their urges is not a good idea... Because in the videos, there are innocent victims that shouldn't have to have their image live on like that.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22282773 - 09/24/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that is indeed a horrible idea and pretty well sick in it's conception.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22282774 - 09/24/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i think you might have misread mine. you said, essentially, that gay people are never born gay; which implies that is a misapprehension on people's part in understanding how 'gayness' works...i am disagree with you on that one, though people can and do still choose to be gay alot of the time.
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I said gay people are born that way
Pedos are likely groomed that way



oh i stand corrected. you said "like gay people" and i thought that was following the statement "I don't really think they're born that way" - you can see how i might have gotten that statement confused for the latter implication.




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I don't really think they're born that way, like gay people



There.. I used poor phrasing on my original reply to OP I suppose... I should've said "like gay people ARE"

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22282779 - 09/24/15 09:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

not really. i would've said upon further inspection "i don't really think they're born that way, unlike gay people (whom are)."

but it's really not terrible phrasing at all, i just simply got confused. :yesnod:

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22282788 - 09/24/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No worries.. I can see how that'd happen.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #22282801 - 09/24/15 09:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.

Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way.





so let me get this straight

when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference... maybe someone
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22282817 - 09/24/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

preference for kids is not a "gender preference".

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22282828 - 09/24/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't really think they're born that way, like gay people...more likely that they were abused or turned on to it at some point externally and that changed their way of seeing it.



It's true a lot of offenders were victims themselves, but not all were. All weren't even traumatized as a child. Some really are just born wired that way. For those who are, they can no more choose their attraction than a gay or straight person can choose theirs. Only thing they can do is choose to indulge in it or not.

I do think the abuse is only as wide spread as it is, because it's just an endless cycle though. If abuse didn't so commonly lead directly to the victim becoming an abuser, we'd probably see much lower rates than we do.

Many victims end up in counseling but I have to wonder if they're really getting the help they need. A year or two in counseling really isn't going to stop the cycle. Especially when that year or two was completed before they were 12 or so and started coming into the sexuality. Therapists are expensive, I think it'd probably be a good idea to set up some kind of program where victims could actually get the long term help they need without destroying them financially. It's a cycle, but it can be broken. We just have to do the right thing to break it.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #22282829 - 09/24/15 09:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

go abort some babies until you can answer me

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22282845 - 09/24/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't really think they're born that way, like gay people...more likely that they were abused or turned on to it at some point externally and that changed their way of seeing it.



It's true a lot of offenders were victims themselves, but not all were. All weren't even traumatized as a child. Some really are just born wired that way. For those who are, they can no more choose their attraction than a gay or straight person can choose theirs. Only thing they can do is choose to indulge in it or not.

I do think the abuse is only as wide spread as it is, because it's just an endless cycle though. If abuse didn't so commonly lead directly to the victim becoming an abuser, we'd probably see much lower rates than we do.

Many victims end up in counseling but I have to wonder if they're really getting the help they need. A year or two in counseling really isn't going to stop the cycle. Especially when that year or two was completed before they were 12 or so and started coming into the sexuality. Therapists are expensive, I think it'd probably be a good idea to set up some kind of program where victims could actually get the long term help they need without destroying them financially. It's a cycle, but it can be broken. We just have to do the right thing to break it.




I work with an offender that did 5 years for abuse towards boys.
I learned he was abused as a child back in the 60s, and I recently learned that one of the boys he abused in the 90s recently got popped for abusing a young boy.. Sad

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22282850 - 09/24/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Patlal said:
Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.

Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way.





so let me get this straight

when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference... maybe someone
can explain to me how his works



It worked like this. If you're a liberal about to lose an argument just say "rape culture" and then you automatically win.

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shLong said:
I don't really think they're born that way, like gay people...more likely that they were abused or turned on to it at some point externally and that changed their way of seeing it.



It's true a lot of offenders were victims themselves, but not all were. All weren't even traumatized as a child. Some really are just born wired that way. For those who are, they can no more choose their attraction than a gay or straight person can choose theirs. Only thing they can do is choose to indulge in it or not.

I do think the abuse is only as wide spread as it is, because it's just an endless cycle though. If abuse didn't so commonly lead directly to the victim becoming an abuser, we'd probably see much lower rates than we do.

Many victims end up in counseling but I have to wonder if they're really getting the help they need. A year or two in counseling really isn't going to stop the cycle. Especially when that year or two was completed before they were 12 or so and started coming into the sexuality. Therapists are expensive, I think it'd probably be a good idea to set up some kind of program where victims could actually get the long term help they need without destroying them financially. It's a cycle, but it can be broken. We just have to do the right thing to break it.



I've got a radical idea. Why has no one ever thought of punishing the victims? If they are just future child rapists why not just put the known victims of pedophiles on the sex offender lists and warn their neighbors about their high potential for being dangerous child rapists?


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #22282858 - 09/24/15 09:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

patlal thinks the way to treat pedophiles is giving them child porn, brilliant


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #22282866 - 09/24/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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patlal thinks the way to treat pedophiles is giving them child porn, brilliant



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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Ellis Dee]
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How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Ellis Dee] * 1
    #22282876 - 09/24/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

This is just another version of the young girls thread. I'm just waiting on enjoywho

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22282878 - 09/24/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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go abort some babies until you can answer me



alright i won't try and be clever...yes, you're right Prisoner (excluding the aforementioned fact that "kid" or "child" is not a gender) you're a very intelligent and enlightened individual.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #22282879 - 09/24/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.

Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way. It is not a choice that they have. Since this is technically natural for them to be attracted by children, I don't think that sending them to prison (where they will be killed) is the right solution.

It's a cultural factor too. Here, homosexual are ok and pedophile are wrong. In the Middle East, it's the opposite. A man can marry a 12 year old and homosexuals are get there heads chopped off. Who are we to say hat what they believe is wrong? Naturally speaking, when a young girl has her period, she is fertile and younger females make healthier babies. So in a sense, it makes sense.... All the other species are doing it.
...




Alot of people here like to compare pedophilia to sexual orientation, which is offensive to me on many levels.

It's true that these things are defined by society, but you could make the same argument really with any crime.  i.e. "That person didn't choose to muder someone, they were just born with a temper and happened to be brought up learning to solve problems with violence."

There is a reason why pedophilia is illegal and homosexuality isn't, because one is much more abhorrent than the other.  Should we do away with all stigma for all crimes?  Maybe, but I tend to think that this would just make things easier for criminals. 

If a pedophile is capable of realizing that they are attracted to children, and has the guts to seek help for this problem before they hurt anyone, then perhaps they can be treated with compassion and have the opportunity to show society that they have some redeeming value.  The time to do this is before you molest some kids, not after.  I would totally support and respect someone who felt they posed a threat to others so they sought help on their own, but how often does that happen?

Is punishing someone for giving into their natural urges unfair?  Perhaps on some level, but when you consider how many children are abused by pedos you can clearly see that the children are the ones getting the short side of the dick here.  If someone can't understand why this is wrong I think they don't have the fundamental respect for others required to get by without being a threat to the people around you.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22282884 - 09/24/15 09:40 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.



because in the realm of ideas everyone is divided into groups, so if you expound on one idea, and if it delineates to another idea possibly, to an opposing group, then the ideas are seen as the same and you are put into a particular group, likely one that the opposer opposes.

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    #22282891 - 09/24/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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patlal thinks the way to treat pedophiles is giving them child porn, brilliant





it's a typical liberal mindset, if someone robs a bank, steals an old lady's social
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    #22282895 - 09/24/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.



The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.


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    #22282899 - 09/24/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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go abort some babies until you can answer me



alright i won't try and be clever...yes, you're right Prisoner (excluding the aforementioned fact that "kid" or "child" is not a gender) you're a very intelligent and enlightened individual.





so you're saying all you can do is try to pick apart the language and cannot provide an answer

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22282920 - 09/24/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.

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Quote:

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How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.



The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.



basically, opt for euthanization of future pedophiles. :cookiemonster:

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    #22282926 - 09/24/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.




but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions

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i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.



I'd agree with this..
I don't think he's being too extreme or anything, just a spark for discussion

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akira_akuma said:
i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.




but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions



He's Canadian? I thought he was from CO

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Quote:

Shroomslip said:
How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.



The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.



This reply only makes half sense.

How does this reply justify "punish the victims" to break the cycle? Victims need therapy, not punishment. Not isolation. No victim HAS to become an abuser. It just constantly happens because we abandon them. Large majority of victims aren't even close to puberty and sexuality. They go for a year or two and then just stop. A lot of times (I'm assuming) because going regularly is expensive. Ideally they should have therapy available to them for many years after coming into their sexuality. In a lot of cases, it's a treatable "condition". Yet rather than try to treat afterwards, how about we try to treat it before it happens?


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22282943 - 09/24/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well this thread got interesting fast. I left for 45 minutes and it's already filled with replies.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22282946 - 09/24/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I believe pedophilia is wrong.
Although, i feel that modern society  sort of prolonged childhood with christmas and bambi.
Back in the day your old enough to bleed your old enough to breed. As well as work, chop firewood carry water ect. Children were treated as young adults.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22282947 - 09/24/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

Patlal said:
Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.

Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way.





so let me get this straight

when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference... maybe someone
can explain to me how his works



oh was that a question?

yes i can explain it to you.

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Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?

Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?




why not use it as a tool? because it's hurting the child that's in the video, it's illegal, it encourages sexual attitudes towards kids which will only drive the pedophile into a further pursuit of sex, and it's just plain abhorrent. yes it's you're (i was gonna say "yes you're crazy" but opted for the following, and left the incorrect grammar; don't you just hate when you change your mind about shit?) your natural batshit exposition.

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but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions




there Pris; questions answered.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
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akira_akuma said:
i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.




but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions



He's Canadian? I thought he was from CO




it's the same thing, colorado is just south canadia

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He's Canadian? I thought he was from CO






no i'm not.......

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Does it matter which country we are from?


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
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Quote:

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Quote:

Patlal said:
Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.

Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way.





so let me get this straight

when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference... maybe someone
can explain to me how his works



oh was that a question?

yes i can explain it to you.

Quote:

Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?

Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?




why not use it as a tool? because it's hurting the child that's in the video, it's illegal, it encourages sexual attitudes towards kids which will only drive the pedophile into a further pursuit of sex, and it's just plain abhorrent. yes it's your natural batshit exposition.

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but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions




there Pris; questions answered.





that would be "a question is answered"

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22282978 - 09/24/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Does it matter which country we are from?





yes because like the gay/pedophile fetus, you dont have a choice, you're born that way

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    #22282979 - 09/24/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

don't blame me for your phrasing.

"when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference...."

no. answer sufficient?

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don't blame me for your phrasing.

"when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference...."

no. answer sufficient?





that should read "sufficient answer?"

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    #22282998 - 09/24/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Wait, what the fuck. I agree 100% with Patel.

One thing that people neglect to realize is the difference between a pedophile and a child molester.

The vast majority of pedophiles are non-offending, meaning they do not take the leap into actually acting upon their thoughts.

To compare pedophiles to actual child molesters is an ignorant statement.


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    #22283003 - 09/24/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

or "answer: sufficient?" rather. didn't think it was too important considering your disdain for picking apart language.

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Quote:

Ellis Dee said:
Quote:

Shroomslip said:
How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.



The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.



This reply only makes half sense.

How does this reply justify "punish the victims" to break the cycle? Victims need therapy, not punishment. Not isolation. No victim HAS to become an abuser. It just constantly happens because we abandon them. Large majority of victims aren't even close to puberty and sexuality. They go for a year or two and then just stop. A lot of times (I'm assuming) because going regularly is expensive. Ideally they should have therapy available to them for many years after coming into their sexuality. In a lot of cases, it's a treatable "condition". Yet rather than try to treat afterwards, how about we try to treat it before it happens?



When it comes to prophalyxis I think we are on the same page. I simply think that best way to prevent the spread of a disease is quarantine and you think its through letting them go out in public.


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    #22283018 - 09/24/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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To compare pedophiles to actual child molesters is an ignorant statement.





to compare the two is a syllogism. they both carry the same properties inherent to child sex-predators.

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    #22283020 - 09/24/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I'm reaching that age soon where I can no longer fuck 15 year old girls




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    #22283023 - 09/24/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I should have added a poll to this. Everybody agrees in part with what I said.

It would be a good first step to let them go to the psychologist without being judged by society right?

It's a deviation like every other in theory.


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qman said:
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:lol: but I'm perfectly content with 17-18+ olds :tongue2:




they are frankly still not competent enough for sexual relationships.






A 18 year old isn't competent enough for sex?  Wake up dude, they do porn at 18. :lol:



yeah, no, i read that completely wrong. 17, meh...i'm on the fence, but 18 is perfectly logical to have sex...though i still say they aren't competent for a real relationship however.

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Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.




:picard: Liberal public education.



i wonder what a conservative education looks like....



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    #22283030 - 09/24/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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When it comes to prophalyxis I think we are on the same page. I simply think that best way to prevent the spread of a disease is quarantine and you think its through letting them go out in public.




you don't want to quarantine, c'mon, you want to euthanize proponents of thought-crimes against children. you wish it were so easy, and that that would be ethical...it's not.

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    #22283032 - 09/24/15 10:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I didnt think you'd answer the pretext with a yes/no


here it is again

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so let me get this straight

when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference... maybe someone
can explain to me how his works





so "now" would be telling me that you will not or cannot give a sufficient response
and it's an excuse to continue to abort the gay babies

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22283033 - 09/24/15 10:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pedophilja is a though crime. You can't lock someone up for thinking something, no matter how much you want to.


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    #22283043 - 09/24/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.



The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.




The same can be said for psychopathy and addicts. This is a slippery slope to eugenics

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22283060 - 09/24/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i already answered: answer is below.

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oh was that a question?

yes i can explain it to you.




and the explanation is:

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akira_akuma said:
preference for kids is not a "gender preference".








and also i'd point out that the argument that a fetus is/or/isn't a person is a texas sharpshooter fallacy.

a fetus is a fetus is a fetus. the impetus is the same, but that doesn't make it a person, nor a non-person, for the sake of abortion; it's either just a fetus or it's just a person, but not both.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22283068 - 09/24/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I really can't tell if you're trolling or not. If you honestly believe rape victims should just automatically be locked up and assumed damaged goods, you've got issues. That is absurdly illogical. By that logic pretty much every single person over the age of 5 or so should be locked up, because they've all been victimized one way or another. We certainly can't have all those people running free..


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    #22283079 - 09/24/15 10:21 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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When it comes to prophalyxis I think we are on the same page. I simply think that best way to prevent the spread of a disease is quarantine and you think its through letting them go out in public.




you don't want to quarantine, c'mon, you want to euthanize proponents of thought-crimes against children. you wish it were so easy, and that that would be ethical...it's not.





Human ethics is not a concern of mine. Only effectivness. If you want results it takes a ruthless hand. If you want the same old same old and namby pamby cycles to continue just go on going on.

If I had been able to forcibly test everyone for HIV/AIDS when it first came out and put them all in a quarantine camp like in the old days of leper colonies until there was either a cure or they all died millions of lives would have been saved. The process of liberalism caused the AIDS crisis and causes it continuation, just like liberalism causes and exacerbates almost all other social problems including pedophilia.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22283081 - 09/24/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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i already answered: answer is below.

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oh was that a question?

yes i can explain it to you.




and the explanation is:

Quote:

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akira_akuma said:
preference for kids is not a "gender preference".








and also i'd point out that the argument that a fetus is/or/isn't a person is a texas sharpshooter fallacy.

a fetus is a fetus is a fetus. the impetus is the same, but that doesn't make it a person, nor a non-person, for the sake of abortion; it's either just a fetus or it's just a person, but not both.





I keep forgetting that you're canadian so it's probably really difficult for yu
to extrapolate from incomplete data sets... now count to potato for us

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22283084 - 09/24/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

and yet it's not just liberals that are pedophiles. brilliant argument Ellis. :archiebunker:

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    #22283094 - 09/24/15 10:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Ellis Dee said:
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akira_akuma said:
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Ellis Dee said:
When it comes to prophalyxis I think we are on the same page. I simply think that best way to prevent the spread of a disease is quarantine and you think its through letting them go out in public.




you don't want to quarantine, c'mon, you want to euthanize proponents of thought-crimes against children. you wish it were so easy, and that that would be ethical...it's not.





Human ethics is not a concern of mine. Only effectivness. If you want results it takes a ruthless hand. If you want the same old same old and namby pamby cycles to continue just go on going on.

If I had been able to forcibly test everyone for HIV/AIDS when it first came out and put them all in a quarantine camp like in the old days of leper colonies until there was either a cure or they all died millions of lives would have been saved. The process of liberalism caused the AIDS crisis and causes it continuation, just like liberalism causes and exacerbates almost all other social problems including pedophilia.



Okay I'm for your eugenics idea. Though I think stupid people should be the first to go. Can we make an appointment say, 3 days from now? I'll build you a nice gas chamber, it will be painless.


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    #22283110 - 09/24/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I keep forgetting that you're canadian so it's probably really difficult for yu
to extrapolate from incomplete data sets... now count to potato for us




:shrug: i just showed you how stupid your question is; again, don't blame me for your phrasing.

there is no reason to assume...
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when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference...




is true, when it's prevalently false.

oh you're not making an argument to the OP? oh i see, you're derailing the thread into a debate on gayness in a fetus; sorry...didn't know you could twist your rationalizations like that.

to answer your shitstain of a question BTW, no, a fetus cannot be gay.

gene expression is not an infallible law. sometimes genes work towards making someone gayer than say a trollop, sometimes it makes some have gay thoughts by way of attraction, and sometimes gay people don't express their gayness at all! amazeballs! it's only after the fetus isn't a fetus anymore that genes can express themselves in the body by way of sexual attraction (if that wasn't abundantly clear).

and before you go there: no, there is no "straight gene" either.

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    #22283121 - 09/24/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Ellis Dee said:
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akira_akuma said:
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Ellis Dee said:
When it comes to prophalyxis I think we are on the same page. I simply think that best way to prevent the spread of a disease is quarantine and you think its through letting them go out in public.




you don't want to quarantine, c'mon, you want to euthanize proponents of thought-crimes against children. you wish it were so easy, and that that would be ethical...it's not.





Human ethics is not a concern of mine. Only effectivness. If you want results it takes a ruthless hand. If you want the same old same old and namby pamby cycles to continue just go on going on.

If I had been able to forcibly test everyone for HIV/AIDS when it first came out and put them all in a quarantine camp like in the old days of leper colonies until there was either a cure or they all died millions of lives would have been saved. The process of liberalism caused the AIDS crisis and causes it continuation, just like liberalism causes and exacerbates almost all other social problems including pedophilia.



So much for constitutional rights.


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    #22283128 - 09/24/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I keep forgetting that you're canadian so it's probably really difficult for yu
to extrapolate from incomplete data sets... now count to potato for us




:shrug: i just showed you how stupid your question is; again, don't blame me for your phrasing.

there is no reason to assume...
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when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to
sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference...




is true, when it's prevalently false.

oh you're not making an argument to the OP? oh i see, you're derailing the thread into a debate on gayness in a fetus; sorry...didn't know you could twist your rationalizations like that.

to answer your shitstain of a question BTW, no, a fetus cannot be gay.

gene expression is not an infallible law.





I'm sorry, but what?

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Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity. Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e. the state of being male, female or intersex), sex-based social structures (including gender roles and other social roles), or gender identity.




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a :  a subclass within a grammatical class (as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms
b :  membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass
c :  an inflectional form showing membership in such a subclass
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a :  sex <the feminine gender>
b :  the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex




so in fact a gender preference would also indicare the preference of one gender
over another, ie, a sexual preference


can you potato for us again?

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    #22283133 - 09/24/15 10:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Ellis Dee said:
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Ellis Dee said:
When it comes to prophalyxis I think we are on the same page. I simply think that best way to prevent the spread of a disease is quarantine and you think its through letting them go out in public.




you don't want to quarantine, c'mon, you want to euthanize proponents of thought-crimes against children. you wish it were so easy, and that that would be ethical...it's not.





Human ethics is not a concern of mine. Only effectivness. If you want results it takes a ruthless hand. If you want the same old same old and namby pamby cycles to continue just go on going on.

If I had been able to forcibly test everyone for HIV/AIDS when it first came out and put them all in a quarantine camp like in the old days of leper colonies until there was either a cure or they all died millions of lives would have been saved. The process of liberalism caused the AIDS crisis and causes it continuation, just like liberalism causes and exacerbates almost all other social problems including pedophilia.



So much for constitutional rights.





which constitutional right expresses the ability to infect others with diseases?

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    #22283143 - 09/24/15 10:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i never claimed to be a biologist but i think i'm making more sense than your attempt at making this about gayness.

there is no express "straight" or "gay" gene, but it's genetic factor's that represent the instances of sexual preference, and since morally there is no exigency for being straight there is no reason to assume that there is any right way to have sex. we aren't talking about self-preservation, we're talking about gender identity.

PS: and to be clear "child" isn't a gender. can we get back on topic?

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which constitutional right expresses the ability to infect others with diseases?



true colors, mmmm mmm mmmm....

constitutionalists. LOL

PS: you should be free to get sick, otherwise we have to start making laws for the common cold. that or kill anyone who acquires it. where is that constitutional?

PPS: thanks Patlal, now we can all see how acerbic Prisoner can be with his rationalizing.

PPPS: i'm waiting here!1 :gayzorz:

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    #22283200 - 09/24/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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which constitutional right expresses the ability to infect others with diseases?



These liberals think people exposed to ebola should be allowed to travel on commercial flights as long as they self monitor for fevers. Their mentality is the worst disease.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22283206 - 09/24/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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which constitutional right expresses the ability to infect others with diseases?



These liberals think people exposed to ebola should be allowed to travel on commercial flights as long as they self monitor for fevers. Their mentality is the worst disease.




the dichotomy is non-existent. conservatives aimed to have travellers come to the US to be treated for ebola as well; how do you separate that from the supposed mentality (liberal) you hate?

boy i am just kicking ass today.

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    #22283233 - 09/24/15 10:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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which constitutional right expresses the ability to infect others with diseases?



My mentality is the worst disease.




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    #22283238 - 09/24/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

funny thing is there are no sure-fire answers to life, so this is pointless all turtles down. we should stick to the facts but when it comes to the mind, there are no facts, only predilections.

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    #22283268 - 09/24/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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which constitutional right expresses the ability to infect others with diseases?



These liberals think people exposed to ebola should be allowed to travel on commercial flights as long as they self monitor for fevers. Their mentality is the worst disease.




I wonder if conservatives will ever admit how wrong they were and admit that Obama and the CDC WERE EXACTLY FUCKING RIGHT about Ebola.

Go away Ellis, you are ignorant and foolish. You don't even learn when your ideas are proven wrong. You continue to believe your disproven lunacy.


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    #22283306 - 09/24/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

nobody wants to follow-up? silence isn't an argument Pris.

A: Gender is male/female; "child" is not included in the criteria, so it's X'd.

B: Gene's regulate hormones which inhibit sexual orientation, alongside with a person's gender.

C: One's gender is preferentially chosen; there are no specific traits that disallows homosexuality nor any specific traits that disallow heterosexuality, nor is their any that only allow for either/or, thus it is specifically chosen due to factors such as creed, environmental cues, preference.

D: In summation; pedophilia is not a born-in trait; and neither homosexuality or heterosexuality; gender and sexual preference is selected by a person's choosing; and there are factors that lead to that choosing limited not only to a person's surroundings, but also a person's sexual proclivities; and being that sexual proclivity isn't a matter of propensity in principal nor morality in principal, it is all perfectly natural and fine suited to humanity that people have sex with whomever human is willing to participate; save children....











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I bet Ellis believes FEMA is building concentration camps to round up citizens. It's people who think things like quarantining people for their thoughts and for carrying diseases they find icky who believe everyone must think that way, and form these grand conspiracies in their heads.


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LOL

Of course. What a fucking hypocrite. Worrying about FEMA internment camps while suggesting that we need to lock anyone up who thinks differently. God damn these nut cases are so easy to spot:

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Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Homeland Youth

October 7, 2012. Vicksburg. The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.

DHS raising an armed army

On September 13, 2012, the Dept of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps youth, aka the Homeland Youth. Image courtesy of DHS.gov.

The first problem one finds with this ‘new army’ is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent - an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.

The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA. Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren’t to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America.

Strange Armored Fighting Vehicles

Individuals around the US have begun reporting the site of strange, new, heavily-armed FEMA fighting vehicles. What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles? According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as President Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is ‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law.

One set of images made available by Rense.com shows trailer after trailer carrying these new DHS and FEMA armored fighting vehicles, complete with machine gun slots. They’re labeled with the usual backward American flag and the title, ‘Homeland Security’. Below that and the DHS logo, it also reads, ‘Immigration & Customs Enforcement’. Joining those markings, the black vehicles with white lettering also display ‘POLICE/RESCUE’ on one side and ‘Special Response Team’ on the other.


DHS & FEMA armed fighting vehicles. Images courtesy of Rense.com.

FEMA Corps

FEMA Deputy Administrator Rich Serino gave the keynote address at the ‘Induction Ceremony’ for the inaugural class of FEMA Corps members. According to the DHS website, ‘Corps members assist with disaster preparedness, response, and recovery activities, providing support in areas ranging from working directly with disaster survivors to supporting disaster recovering centers to sharing valuable disaster preparedness and mitigation information with the public.’

Serino describes what the first FEMA Corps class has accomplished so far, as well as where they’ll be going next:

‘Yesterday, we welcomed 231 energetic members into the first ever FEMA Corps class. The members just finished off their first month of training with our partners at the Corporation for National and Community Service (CNCS) and are one step closer to working in the field on disaster response and recovery. They will now head to FEMA’s Center for Domestic Preparedness to spend the next two weeks training in their FEMA position-specific roles. Once they complete both the CNCS and FEMA training, these 231 dedicated FEMA Corps members will be qualified to work in one of a variety of disaster related roles, ranging from Community Relations to Disaster Recovery Center support.’

A standing army

Unlike most local disaster response teams who are volunteers, training periodically and only showing up when there’s a disaster, the FEMA Corps will be a paid, full time, standing army of government youth. FEMA Deputy Administrator Sarino goes on to explain, ‘The new members, who range in age from 18-24 years old, will contribute to a dedicated, trained, and reliable disaster workforce by working full-time for ten months on federal disaster response and recovery efforts.’

In closing his announcement of the first graduating class of FEMA Corps Youth, Sarino describes his and the agency’s vision of the future, one where ‘FEMA Corps sets the foundation for a new generation of emergency managers’.

DHS arms itself

As we detailed in the August 28 Whiteout Press article ‘History of DHS Ammunition Purchases’, federal emergency management agencies are looking more and more like a military army every day.

The federal government’s procurement website actually lists DHS’ requests for bids to supply it with ammunition and military weaponry. All of the orders listed in the above article, including the orders for hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition, are publicly available at http://www.fbo.gov.

One look at a chart of DHS ammunition purchases over the past decade reveals a drastic spike in orders of bullets recently, totaling in the billions of rounds. Other charts available online show a similar drastic spike in the purchases of accompanying weaponry by the Department of Homeland Security.

What is the US federal government preparing for? And why does it feel it needs an army of brainwashed youth, millions of guns, thousands of armored fighting vehicles and literally billions of rounds of ammunition, just to provide relief to the American people during a natural disaster? Any historian will tell you it sounds more like the arming of the Hitler Youth than an army of first responders fighting forest fires and hurricanes.

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It look more and more like NAZI Germany all the time. Now we've got the Defense Authorization Act on the books, which is basically a cut and paste of the German Enabling Acts. Internment camps (residential facilities) are already built. Legislation has been attempted to be passed to legitimize forcible internment of citizens in case of national security threats or insurrection. It is apparent that FEMA is no longer about rescuing people from hurricanes and earthquakes. They even have their own stormtroopers now. It's questionable whether there has been a legitimate election since 1996. The US propaganda machine would make Goebbels jealous. Is democracy an illusion now? Let's discuss.




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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: koods]
    #22283362 - 09/24/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i believe pedophilia is more about an obsession with dominance, rather than a sexual orientation

i could be wrong, but i think i'm not...


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    #22283382 - 09/24/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

In a lot of instances that is the case, but it's not always. I've seen testimony from more than one repeat offender who says they cannot stop themselves, at least one going so far as actually fighting for castration (which was denied by the justice department as being cruel). If you're willing to castrate yourself because the desire is that strong, I think it's pretty safe to assume it's not just a control thing. They are better at knowing what's going through their head than anyone else is.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22283392 - 09/24/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the key word here is "obsession".. obsessions are typically uncontrollable. you could even by totally 100% aware that it's morally wrong and that it's an obsession... it doesn't change the fact that you still have an obsession

people can be attracted to donkeys, midgets, amputees, all sorts of weird crap. but if you can't stop yourself from doing the thing, that's the definition of an "obsession"

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    #22283409 - 09/24/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Obsession yes, but that doesn't mean the obsession isn't driven by sexual desire. I'm just saying that it isn't always about an obsession with dominance. People find sexual attraction in all different shapes and sizes. Some people get off to grannies, some people get off to eating shit or people puking. They may not be the most common, but they exist.


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    #22283412 - 09/24/15 11:36 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Can we all agree that when the NRA, Pris and others say that the solution to gun violence is to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, they are talking about people like Ellis Dee?


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    #22283420 - 09/24/15 11:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Obsession yes, but that doesn't mean the obsession isn't driven by sexual desire. I'm just saying that it isn't always about an obsession with dominance. People find sexual attraction in all different shapes and sizes. Some people get off to grannies, some people get off to eating shit or people puking. They may not be the most common, but they exist.



how many on those people fulfill their fantasies? Not many I imagine. There's a big difference between fantasy and reality.


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    #22283444 - 09/24/15 11:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No, but only because that's a slippery slope. I concede that, and then you're gonna wanna apply it to others, and more after that.
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Obsession yes, but that doesn't mean the obsession isn't driven by sexual desire. I'm just saying that it isn't always about an obsession with dominance. People find sexual attraction in all different shapes and sizes. Some people get off to grannies, some people get off to eating shit or people puking. They may not be the most common, but they exist.



how many on those people fulfill their fantasies? Not many I imagine. There's a big difference between fantasy and reality.



Hell if I know. Actually no one can really answer that. It's such a taboo subject, that you can't expect any level of honesty when polling people about it, even anonymously. The only thing I can think to compare it to is people who dream up robbing a bank (which is actually pretty high IMO) and those who actually do, which comparatively, is pretty low. Who the hell doesn't want free money? Most just realize they'd get caught so it only stays a fantasy. I can see it being the same in terms of pedo fantasies.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: koods]
    #22283448 - 09/24/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

if you watch to catch a predator enough then you start to realize that a lot of these folks have difficulty distinguishing fantasy from reality. they make up stories and seek to fulfill their fantasies in real life only to end up as the punchline in a fictional scenario.

it's freakin mind boggling man. these people actually believe that real children on the internet are begging them to come to their house and rape them. it's a real hoot!


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    #22283461 - 09/24/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That isn't really a fair comparison. Those people are in chat rooms looking for kids and then (often) drive hours just to hook up with them. That's kind of on a different level. Despite many claiming it's just a fantasy, I don't really buy it. They just got caught and are spinning up some bullshit story in hopes of not getting arrested. "I dunno what I'm doing here. I wasn't gonna do anything. Once I got here and the reality sunk in, I would've stopped and went home".. It just all sounds like excuses for getting caught. They weren't in fantasy world, they were going out of their way to make it reality.

Had it not been a setup, I expect pretty much every single one of them would've went through it exactly as they planned to when they drove for hours to meet up with them.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22283480 - 09/24/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think those to catch a predator situations really show reality. They are pretty close to entrapment in my opinion. Those guys aren't luring children in off the street  they are being lured by "children"


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: koods] * 1
    #22283834 - 09/24/15 01:02 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

There are so many different cases for people.

-Younger women, ages 14 through 17, stealing peoples hearts and them forming an attraction to them.

-Setting predetermined marriages.

-No sexual urges towards said underage (wanting only relationship).

What form of 'pedophilia' does this fall under?  I've seen it happen.


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    #22283873 - 09/24/15 01:09 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

haven't the japanese invented child sex robots yet?

this would solve the problem methinks. if you're a pedo, you have the option to fuck a child robot, as in a non human android. and if you fuck an actual child, you get castrated and imprisoned for life.

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    #22283886 - 09/24/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

maybe this is the answer Patlal was seeking.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22283938 - 09/24/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Be a pedo all you want Pat. My neighbor got his door kicked down by the FBI last year for CP. My other neighbor and I joke about killing him but we don't know the full story and I never see any kids go to his place.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22284199 - 09/24/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way. It is not a choice that they have. Since this is technically natural for them to be attracted by children, I don't think that sending them to prison (where they will be killed) is the right solution




The Texas Department of Criminal Justice offers castrations to their pedophile prisoners.  Paid for by the state.  Totally free for the prisoner.  I'm sure quite a few other states offer this too.

They're also coming out with pedo-only prison units.  (Off topic but they are also coming out with a former-cop prison unit)



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It's a cultural factor too. Here, homosexual are ok and pedophile are wrong. In the Middle East, it's the opposite. A man can marry a 12 year old and homosexuals are get there heads chopped off. Who are we to say hat what they believe is wrong? Naturally speaking, when a young girl has her period, she is fertile and younger females make healthier babies. So in a sense, it makes sense.... All the other species are doing it



Because that's the biological age they can bear a child, fucked up as that might sound, it's also true.  However, your typical pedophile will molest children as young as three years old, and I don't think even that shit would fly in the middle east.  That shit is wrong no matter which way you look at it.

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So here's my solution. Instead of shaming them, hating them and sending them to there inevitable deaths in prison, why not simply train psychologists to deal with these people. They could walk in anonymously, say they are attracted to children in a sexual way and discuss it openly, without judgement with the doc.




Many of them do not want to be helped and those that do might opt for castration somewhere down the line.
There's also the dark net which perfectly describes what you are suggesting:  anonymity, open discussions on child rape, without any judgement from anybody.



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Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?



We do punish them when they act on it.  A lot of them get probation. That's their second chance and when they blow it they're gone.  Parole boards don't take kindly to pedophiles either, so most of them end up doing 100% of their time.
  I can't tell you anything about the second part of that paragraph aside from the obvious fact that child porn is incredibly illegal and the doctor would likely burn the DVD's in a fire and prescribe the pedophile some brain lobotomizing psychotropics.


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Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?



Not at all.  It's perfectly normal to feel sorry for other human beings who suffer.  That's what makes you human.  Pedophiles are human beings also.  But with a little research you'll come to find them to be repulsive and vile human beings.  Fuck them, seriously.

There's five pages in this thread and I'm sure what has been said in my post has been covered already but I'm just chiming in and I don't feel like reading five pages of thread right now.

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    #22284208 - 09/24/15 02:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Somewhere in the east they have an ad about treatment. Sucks to be a pedo. Is there a pedo bear emoji?

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22284655 - 09/24/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Your solution isnt a very good solution. I have alot of psychologist/mental health workers in my family, and most of them claim its almost impossible to "rehabilitate" child molester offenders.

And it makes sense. If society today told me its illegal and wrong to have sex with woman, and all I was legally allowed to have sex with men, I'm sure I would break the law to have sex. Even if I tried hard not to, its natural. I see these people as sick, but I realize how hard it must be to stay away from what they deem attractive.


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    #22284710 - 09/24/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Somewhere in the east they have an ad about treatment. Sucks to be a pedo. Is there a pedo bear emoji?



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    #22285403 - 09/24/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Salomon]
    #22285492 - 09/24/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You guys every actually speak to a pedophile?
You can't fucking take a single thing they say seriously. They're always just kidding

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    #22285588 - 09/24/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Be a pedo all you want Pat. My neighbor got his door kicked down by the FBI last year for CP. My other neighbor and I joke about killing him but we don't know the full story and I never see any kids go to his place.




Maybe the FBI should make the gigabites of perversion they've confiscated accessible on a database, so that anyone who wants to access it, for whatever reason, research, perversion, or just just plain ole inquisitiveness, should have to register to watch.

The children in these films have already been harmed in some way, why create a market to produce more of the same, with new victims, by destroying what has already been made.
Granted, it would be best if the original victims could be approached for their consent.  What harm is it to them though if their images were made available?

Would anyone argue that watching a vidio on 'ogrish' or some such, make you more likely to want to go around beheading people or eating shit because you watched 'two girls one cup'?


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There should need consent. If I had my pic in there, I would say no, and sue if not approached


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There should need consent. If I had my pic in there, I would say no, and sue if not approached




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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: deucedbi9]
    #22285690 - 09/24/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pedophila is a complex issue with no real easy solution.

I think more research should be done one these  people to figure out why certain men are into young girls and booys and why so little women are into young girls and boys.

Maybe virtual reality will be an outlet for pedos to do their pedo thing. But maybe it will  make them want the real thing even more.

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    #22285786 - 09/24/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

SeaShrooms was pretty outspoken on the matter.. To the point of oh my god :facepalm: type shit

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    #22285956 - 09/24/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Can we all agree that when the NRA, Pris and others say that the solution to gun violence is to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, they are talking about people like Ellis Dee?





I said execute the mentally ill, since they've committed no crime there is no trial needed


BTW... ellis dee thinks that homosexuality is a mental illness

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Gay people should also go through treatment then huh.



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    #22286044 - 09/24/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Pedophila is a complex issue with no real easy solution.




you're right, on the punishment end people say castration is the solution but they
dont understand that in doing this they create an even worse monster, it sounds
easy but it leads to some really depraved and violent acts

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I think more research should be done one these  people to figure out why certain men are into young girls and booys and why so little women are into young girls and boys.





here's the quick and dirty on it, you cant change millions of years of evolution
with a few laws, as little as a hundred years ago the majority of girls were
married by the time they were 16 with a large number being married between 12 and
15, basically at the point a girl hits puberty they were eligible for marriage
and/or breeding and this still is a common occurrence outside of western
cultures, in mexico, central and south america the "latin american" countries
it's still a common practice, through out most of asia; which includes the middle
east; and africa it happens daily

as for the women, it's pretty common with them as well, they're prosecuted much
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
    #22286059 - 09/24/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How about developing sex robots?? Any person could custom design their own robot to look like whatever their sexually attracted to.  This could help prevent unwanted pregnancies as well.

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    #22286064 - 09/24/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Pris, that doesn't make sense when you consider the ones after kids 10 and under

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Pris, that doesn't make sense when you consider the ones after kids 10 and under





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    #22286225 - 09/24/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #22286252 - 09/24/15 09:49 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

What about pharmaceutical treatment? Some drugs completely dispel sexual urges. I'm sure that a drug could be developed solely for the purpose of mitigating sexual urges.

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    #22286295 - 09/24/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Can you force a person to take a pill daily if they're not in prison or under 24/7 control?

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    #22286317 - 09/24/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

No, but at least those that want to abstain could. It's not a perfect solution, but then what is?

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    #22286443 - 09/24/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

castration...

Edit... Forgot, a lot of times, they just kill the kid so they don't tell..
I've never been a fan of tolerance  when it comes to things that cause others harm, especially if those that may be harmed are children.  Call it what you will.

Castration, then the ole noose, drop and dangle

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Gay people should also go through treatment then huh.



That was a stupid fucking post there, Mrs Davis
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Was it? He said it pedophilia is inherent before birth. The same would go for gay people. So how would pedophiles be rehabilitated if thats the case? It would be like telling a gay person to stop being gay.

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    #22286518 - 09/24/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The difference is gay people's attractions aren't going to hurt people if they act on those urges (at least not anymore than a straight person's will). Saying gay people should have mandated treatment is the same as saying straight people should have mandated treatment.


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The difference is gay people's attractions aren't going to hurt people if they act on those urges (at least not anymore than a straight person's will). Saying gay people should have mandated treatment is the same as saying straight people should be have mandated treatment.



True. But my point still stands. If a pedophile is inherently born that way then there isnt going to be a cure. Same as telling a gay person to stop being gay... Or to tell a straight person to turn gay.


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Gay people should also go through treatment then huh.



That was a stupid fucking post there, Mrs Davis
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Was it? He said it pedophilia is inherent before birth. The same would go for gay people. So how would pedophiles be rehabilitated if thats the case? It would be like telling a gay person to stop being gay.

Ps fuck yaself.



My bad, dude.. I really thought you were gay bashing. I misunderstood your post.
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    #22286593 - 09/24/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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In a lot of instances that is the case, but it's not always. I've seen testimony from more than one repeat offender who says they cannot stop themselves, at least one going so far as actually fighting for castration (which was denied by the justice department as being cruel). If you're willing to castrate yourself because the desire is that strong, I think it's pretty safe to assume it's not just a control thing. They are better at knowing what's going through their head than anyone else is.




No there is no proof whatsoever pedophiles have stronger sexual urges than anyone else. I saw that guy on TV who wanted castration, it's because that pedophile prison he's in  doesn't let anyone out, ever. He isn't doing it to protect children, he's doing it to get out of prison. Also even with no balls you can take hormones and get an erection. They need an excuse why they did something so horrible so "I couldn't help myself"  is what they use.
PC or not all deviant sexual behavior is the same. People into poop or fat chicks or flashing old ladies in the park are all equal, none of them have stronger urges than anyone else. You can no more cure pedophilia than you can cure homosexuality. But I totally disagree there are people incapable of not acting on urges. If you were gay in Iran or Uganda I bet you would be pretty fucking good at not acting on those gay desires. Sorry I disagree that peodos have a stronger sex drive and can't help themselves, I will never believe that.   
 

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Also, giving them child porn to quell their urges is not a good idea... Because in the videos, there are innocent victims that shouldn't have to have their image live on like that.




Not saying I agree with this but the technology exists to render the porn using no real people. So what if there is no victim? Personally I think sex offenders in general should not be watching porn, i haven't seen any indication it stops them from raping. And a few of them had quite large collections when caught for doing the real thing. 

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castration...

Edit... Forgot, a lot of times, they just kill the kid so they don't tell..
I've never been a fan of tolerance  when it comes to things that cause others harm, especially if those that may be harmed are children.  Call it what you will.

Castration, then the ole noose, drop and dangle




So you admit they kill children to avoid detection, and then say hang them all? You really don't care about dead children do you? If we listened to you there would be more dead children. Would you not rather the kid got molested and the guy got 20 years rather than the kid got killed and the child killer hangs? How is a dead kid a better outcome? 
People like you are a factor in their re offending. No one anywhere makes the claim the torch and pitchfork crowd are helping, even you know you aren't. Doesn't it bother you that attitudes like yours are a factor in re-offending?

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I keep forgetting that you're canadian so it's probably really difficult for yu
to extrapolate from incomplete data sets... now count to potato for us



Aren't you from Georgia? You should not be talking dude.


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Your solution isnt a very good solution. I have alot of psychologist/mental health workers in my family, and most of them claim its almost impossible to "rehabilitate" child molester offenders.

And it makes sense. If society today told me its illegal and wrong to have sex with woman, and all I was legally allowed to have sex with men, I'm sure I would break the law to have sex. Even if I tried hard not to, its natural. I see these people as sick, but I realize how hard it must be to stay away from what they deem attractive.




That's not quite the same thing. Do you rape women when you can't get laid? Most people jerk off or wait. There seems to be this idea pedos can't stop themselves. They have the same sex drive normal men have. If you are able to not rape women, they are able to not rape children. Celibacy may suck but it's not impossible, or even difficult. Fuck I am on month 3 since the gf left. It's not difficult to not rape.
It may be impossible to eradicate deviant sexual fantasies, in that sense no they cannot be cured. The question is if they can be trained to not act on the urges. And since no program will ever be 100 percent successful in stopping reoffending, what percent success rate will society accept? Even if one person went on to reoffend, they will be the ones that make the media stories.

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    #22286600 - 09/24/15 11:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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    #22286609 - 09/24/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I keep forgetting that you're canadian so it's probably really difficult for yu
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Aren't you from Georgia? You should not be talking dude.





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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22286613 - 09/24/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I feel bad for someone who actually thinks they should feel bad for pedophiles.


That is fucked up in and of itself. :shrug:
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    #22286619 - 09/24/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I never said they all had a stronger drive or were less capable of not acting on their urges. It's a person by person basis. I'm not saying having those desires automatically means you cannot control them or refuse to act on them. Some people are better at denying who they are or not acting on urges (not even limited to sexual ones, just like some heroin addicts can up and walk away from it and some struggle with it until they OD) than others are. The people who have repeatedly said they can't control themselves, are speaking honestly. They feel they don't have the willpower to stop. If they were gay in Iran they probably wouldn't be able to stop that, either.

http://www.qt.com.au/news/Ipswich-pedophile-begs-to-be-castrated/237440/

I dunno how effective it would be, I've heard people say that it only ends up making things worse, but when someone is begging for castration because they feel they can't control themselves, it's a pretty good indicator they are probably not really built for self control/discipline. They want it to stop but don't feel as if they can do it through willpower alone.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22286631 - 09/24/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I feel bad for someone who actually thinks they should feel bad for pedophiles.


That is fucked up in and of itself. :shrug:
:facepalm:



unless he sympathizes because he's a pedophile, i don't see how...how does having empathy make you fucked up?

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22286688 - 09/25/15 12:04 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?




So wait... I'm confused.

Is your point people should not get punished for having desires and *not* acting on them?

They don't; that would be thought-crime.

The only other one I can dredge out of this is they should be allowed to have child porn.

The reason it is illegal is actual kids were involved and hurt, which is not okay.

But people have will power and I know the type.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: micro]
    #22286716 - 09/25/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

i saw on like CSI or one of those shows once, that you can just take an adult nude model and digitally render them into child form.

which would make no victims in the child porn provided to these people.

so if there is a large surplices of faked child porn, and robot child sex dolls, and extremely harsh punishment for those who STILL choose to harm and fuck up the life of an actual child, then whats the issue?


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    #22286734 - 09/25/15 12:23 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Honestly, I'd have no problem myself if people were fucking robots.

Then again I had no problem commissioning this...

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    #22286750 - 09/25/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

rule 34 is tame compared to some shit out there.


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    #22286763 - 09/25/15 12:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

p much my thoughts exactly

not everyone seems to agree on that however


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    #22286767 - 09/25/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.

Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way. It is not a choice that they have. Since this is technically natural for them to be attracted by children, I don't think that sending them to prison (where they will be killed) is the right solution.

It's a cultural factor too. Here, homosexual are ok and pedophile are wrong. In the Middle East, it's the opposite. A man can marry a 12 year old and homosexuals are get there heads chopped off. Who are we to say hat what they believe is wrong? Naturally speaking, when a young girl has her period, she is fertile and younger females make healthier babies. So in a sense, it makes sense.... All the other species are doing it.

So here's my solution. Instead of shaming them, hating them and sending them to there inevitable deaths in prison, why not simply train psychologists to deal with these people. They could walk in anonymously, say they are attracted to children in a sexual way and discuss it openly, without judgement with the doc.

Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?

Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?




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What? Lusting after children due to your own mental afflictions?

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What? Lusting after children due to your own mental afflictions?




you have no idea the extent of my mental afflictions

nothing to do with children though

too bad you can't see the porn if you aren't registered

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    #22286823 - 09/25/15 01:15 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Le master troll thread. Seriously, this is on some Supremeslammage or Almond flour shit.

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Who the fuck is Supremeslammage? If it's comparable to Almond Flour why the hell have I never once heard of him?


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It's peophilia, and if you can add a positive twist on it, you're fucked in the head.

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It's peophilia, and if you can add a positive twist on it, you're fucked in the head.




not really into watersports :v

i can put a positive twist on just about anything though

seriously, what's paedophilia

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You're fucked in the head.

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You're fucked in the head.




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I am so not reading that huge wall of text especially when one of the first lines is "There is alot of scientific evidence to suggest that its he biggest hoax in human history." :lol:

If most of his stuff was on par with that, I wouldn't really put him and AF in the same category. They're both kinda stupid and ridiculous in their own ways. AF usually can't come up with a decent argument but at least he can hide behind the whole "we don't know thing" when it comes to his religious inspired posts about God and us not accepting him. However arguing there is no moon, is just retarded. It very clearly exists. For one we don't have the technology to control tides world wide. But even if we did, why? What is there to gain by fooling us all into believing there is a moon. What in the possible fuck could justify such a massive undertaking? :nonono:


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22286861 - 09/25/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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You can no more cure pedophilia than you can cure homosexuality




Indeed. Just as you can't "cure" heterosexuality, as you say "not all heterosexuals that can't get laid become rapists". They just use porn and have a wank.
I believe that would be the same for kiddy fiddlers, especially as they would know what the consequences of being caught are.

Just like I would rather have a junkie living next door to me that recieved his 'junk' on prescription, than one who had to use the black market, for obvious reasons.
I would prefer the paedo to have access to CP of past victims than have him pay some unscrupulous capitalist pig to create more of the same with yet another batch of victims. After all, once the nonce has emptied his sack watching porn, he's less likely to go out and molest my grandchildren, and then as you suggest, kill them to cover his tracks, in that, 'a dead kid can tell no tales'.

It's a sad world, but, I believe, our knee jerk reactions can make it worse.
It may be that we'd do better at protecting our kids if we allow the nonces to get their rocks off using porn, virtually, than our kids in real life.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: deucedbi9]
    #22286864 - 09/25/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

You're justifying kiddy porn?

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22286865 - 09/25/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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However arguing there is no moon, is just retarded. It very clearly exists.




Wait, you think he was serious?

I mean, okay the tl;dr does give that impression but it could also be copy pasta :rolleyes:


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: micro]
    #22286889 - 09/25/15 01:56 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know if this is just Illinois, or if they are doing it nationally, or if they are doing it in certain states, but I know they are taking convicted pedophiles, and when their prison sentences are up, they are keeping them incarcerated. I guess they are putting them in somewhat more livable prison settings, but they are keeping them locked up. The therapy experts have concluded that many of these people are incapable of non-recidivision, regardless of the amount of therapy they receive.

    It's probably doesn't follow the constitution technically, but I'm all for pragmatic solutions.


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    #22286894 - 09/25/15 01:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

pragmatic ???

those are my tax dollars at work :v


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Fletcher]
    #22286909 - 09/25/15 02:09 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

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You can no more cure pedophilia than you can cure homosexuality




Indeed. Just as you can't "cure" heterosexuality, as you say "not all heterosexuals that can't get laid become rapists". They just use porn and have a wank.
I believe that would be the same for kiddy fiddlers, especially as they would know what the consequences of being caught are.

Just like I would rather have a junkie living next door to me that recieved his 'junk' on prescription, than one who had to use the black market, for obvious reasons.
I would prefer the paedo to have access to CP of past victims than have him pay some unscrupulous capitalist pig to create more of the same with yet another batch of victims. After all, once the nonce has emptied his sack watching porn, he's less likely to go out and molest my grandchildren, and then as you suggest, kill them to cover his tracks, in that, 'a dead kid can tell no tales'.

It's a sad world, but, I believe, our knee jerk reactions can make it worse.
It may be that we'd do better at protecting our kids if we allow the nonces to get their rocks off using porn, virtually, than our kids in real life.



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You're justifying kiddy porn?




If you see what I wrote as justification then yes, I fucking am.
You got anything to add to this topic other than fucking knee jerks?


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: deucedbi9]
    #22286912 - 09/25/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

How is what you said not condoning kiddy porn?

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: micro]
    #22286917 - 09/25/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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However arguing there is no moon, is just retarded. It very clearly exists.




Wait, you think he was serious?

I mean, okay the tl;dr does give that impression but it could also be copy pasta :rolleyes:



Not necessarily.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
    #22286924 - 09/25/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

The problem with your argument is that Pedophiles aren't going after "young fertile girls", they're going after little kids.

There's a specific term for what you're condoning, I just can't remember it. Is Sea Shrooms still around?


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Fletcher]
    #22286930 - 09/25/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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How is what you said not condoning kiddy porn?




Whether I condone it or not is of absolutely no consequence to past victims.
My concern is with my own grandchildren and preventing future children that the capitalist scumbags would victimise to replace the media that such would be nonces would pay for.

Open up the FBI files, free of charge. Let those that want to get off on such material get off on the images of past victims, not my fucking grandchildren.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
    #22286931 - 09/25/15 02:25 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

the problem that i see is you are creating a market for kiddy porn

do you really think people will watch these "prescribed" dvds and not want more ???

also i am not sure it even helps

don't support kiddy porn

support kitty porn :v

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: micro]
    #22286933 - 09/25/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Gayest fucking topic.... Ughhhhhh makes so me mad.

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Gorlax] * 1
    #22286936 - 09/25/15 02:29 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

that is why i like stuff like this

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Gorlax]
    #22286939 - 09/25/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's why I clicked. fucking mentally retarded fucking retards. How the FUCK do people not feal remorse these days!!

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: micro]
    #22286942 - 09/25/15 02:33 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Rage is almost all off my feelings, and also sad sometimes


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
    #22286949 - 09/25/15 02:35 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So, with your logic, once your grandchildren are victimized,  it's OK to let adults get pleasure from it? You are fucked in the head.

Edited by Fletcher (09/25/15 03:00 AM)

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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Gorlax]
    #22286952 - 09/25/15 02:38 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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That's why I clicked. fucking mentally retarded fucking retards. How the FUCK do people not feal remorse these days!!




it is easy if you are a sociopath

i think this is more the product of online anonymity though

i guess the litmus test would be how someone acts irl


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Fletcher]
    #22287095 - 09/25/15 04:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So, with your logic, once your grandchildren are victimized,  it's OK to let adults get pleasure from it? You are fucked in the head.




Did someone fiddle with you when you were a kiddie? It seems it has rendered you incapable of thinking straight. Go get some fucking counselling already.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: deucedbi9]
    #22287670 - 09/25/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Nice ad hominem attack. I'm not the one supporting a government funded kiddy porn business, sicko. 

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You are fucked in the head.



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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Fletcher]
    #22287725 - 09/25/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Nice ad hominem attack.




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You are fucked in the head.




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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: micro]
    #22288051 - 09/25/15 11:45 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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the problem that i see is you are creating a market for kiddy porn

do you really think people will watch these "prescribed" dvds and not want more ???

also i am not sure it even helps

don't support kiddy porn




I'd guess there is enough of this type of material out there to satisfy a lifetime of wanks for those that are interested. The best way to "support kiddy porn" and creating future victims, is to make it profitable by making it hard to come by.
FBI. Make it free already and keep an eye on the people that are watching it.

BTW 'Fletcher'. It would not be a "a government funded kiddy porn business" it would be free of charge, with the proviso that, access could only be gained through registration.
I'd guess the content of the huge databases out there would satisfy the majority of people interested in such images, and, maybe satiate their cravings without resorting to our real life kids. 


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    #22288272 - 09/25/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I knew an artist who drew all kids of questionable material but it wasn't people; it was fictional art. Later he got arrested for downloading child pornography. By giving these people wank material for their fantasies are we really preventing anything, or simply enabling them?

The only actual paedophile I've ever met came out of the ab/dl scene, which some of my friends are into. Needless to say the guy was creepy. I had lunch with him and a couple of his "kids" (actually, two friends of mine) and the dude starts talking about "teen babies" as in 14, 15 year olds and he's like... late 60's? I was like "okay dude, that's enough; I want to be able to finish my meal."

Some of these people are just creepers and will keep doing it no matter what.

I think it is messed up though, the ones who *want* chemical castration aren't allowed to.


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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: deucedbi9] * 1
    #22288947 - 09/25/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So, with your logic, once your grandchildren are victimized,  it's OK to let adults get pleasure from it? You are fucked in the head.




Did someone fiddle with you when you were a kiddie? It seems it has rendered you incapable of thinking straight. Go get some fucking counselling already.




I believe the appropriate response to this is

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    #22289010 - 09/25/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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I believe the appropriate response to this is

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You are fucked in the head







eh, i can see both sides

it was an emotional knee-jerk response just like ^ that

still, i don't agree with the whole allowing child porn thing

i don't really care if it exists or not


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    #22289013 - 09/25/15 03:54 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think you have to be seriously fucked in the head to be a pedophile. I mean just logically thinking about it, it is completely fucked.

Fuck pedophiles. I don't give a fuck if they were "born that way" or not.

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