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Pris, that doesn't make sense when you consider the ones after kids 10 and under
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
#22286204 - 09/24/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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shLong said: Pris, that doesn't make sense when you consider the ones after kids 10 and under
some people are pretty fucked up
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I have 2 words for you...
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
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What about pharmaceutical treatment? Some drugs completely dispel sexual urges. I'm sure that a drug could be developed solely for the purpose of mitigating sexual urges.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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Can you force a person to take a pill daily if they're not in prison or under 24/7 control?
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
#22286317 - 09/24/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, but at least those that want to abstain could. It's not a perfect solution, but then what is?
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: 4HO-DMT]
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castration...
Edit... Forgot, a lot of times, they just kill the kid so they don't tell.. I've never been a fan of tolerance when it comes to things that cause others harm, especially if those that may be harmed are children. Call it what you will.
Castration, then the ole noose, drop and dangle
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
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Quit The Cult said: Gay people should also go through treatment then huh.
That was a stupid fucking post there, Mrs Davis

Was it? He said it pedophilia is inherent before birth. The same would go for gay people. So how would pedophiles be rehabilitated if thats the case? It would be like telling a gay person to stop being gay.
Ps fuck yaself.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22286502 - 09/24/15 10:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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jahrastafareye said: How about developing sex robots??
I have 2 words for you...
Robocalypse
I'll bite. What's the second word you have for me?
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The difference is gay people's attractions aren't going to hurt people if they act on those urges (at least not anymore than a straight person's will). Saying gay people should have mandated treatment is the same as saying straight people should have mandated treatment.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
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Shroomslip said: The difference is gay people's attractions aren't going to hurt people if they act on those urges (at least not anymore than a straight person's will). Saying gay people should have mandated treatment is the same as saying straight people should be have mandated treatment.
True. But my point still stands. If a pedophile is inherently born that way then there isnt going to be a cure. Same as telling a gay person to stop being gay... Or to tell a straight person to turn gay.
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Quit The Cult said: Gay people should also go through treatment then huh.
That was a stupid fucking post there, Mrs Davis

Was it? He said it pedophilia is inherent before birth. The same would go for gay people. So how would pedophiles be rehabilitated if thats the case? It would be like telling a gay person to stop being gay.
Ps fuck yaself.
My bad, dude.. I really thought you were gay bashing. I misunderstood your post. My apologies
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip] 1
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Shroomslip said: In a lot of instances that is the case, but it's not always. I've seen testimony from more than one repeat offender who says they cannot stop themselves, at least one going so far as actually fighting for castration (which was denied by the justice department as being cruel). If you're willing to castrate yourself because the desire is that strong, I think it's pretty safe to assume it's not just a control thing. They are better at knowing what's going through their head than anyone else is.
No there is no proof whatsoever pedophiles have stronger sexual urges than anyone else. I saw that guy on TV who wanted castration, it's because that pedophile prison he's in doesn't let anyone out, ever. He isn't doing it to protect children, he's doing it to get out of prison. Also even with no balls you can take hormones and get an erection. They need an excuse why they did something so horrible so "I couldn't help myself" is what they use. PC or not all deviant sexual behavior is the same. People into poop or fat chicks or flashing old ladies in the park are all equal, none of them have stronger urges than anyone else. You can no more cure pedophilia than you can cure homosexuality. But I totally disagree there are people incapable of not acting on urges. If you were gay in Iran or Uganda I bet you would be pretty fucking good at not acting on those gay desires. Sorry I disagree that peodos have a stronger sex drive and can't help themselves, I will never believe that.
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shLong said: Also, giving them child porn to quell their urges is not a good idea... Because in the videos, there are innocent victims that shouldn't have to have their image live on like that.
Not saying I agree with this but the technology exists to render the porn using no real people. So what if there is no victim? Personally I think sex offenders in general should not be watching porn, i haven't seen any indication it stops them from raping. And a few of them had quite large collections when caught for doing the real thing.
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GeoDMT said: castration...
Edit... Forgot, a lot of times, they just kill the kid so they don't tell.. I've never been a fan of tolerance when it comes to things that cause others harm, especially if those that may be harmed are children. Call it what you will.
Castration, then the ole noose, drop and dangle
So you admit they kill children to avoid detection, and then say hang them all? You really don't care about dead children do you? If we listened to you there would be more dead children. Would you not rather the kid got molested and the guy got 20 years rather than the kid got killed and the child killer hangs? How is a dead kid a better outcome? People like you are a factor in their re offending. No one anywhere makes the claim the torch and pitchfork crowd are helping, even you know you aren't. Doesn't it bother you that attitudes like yours are a factor in re-offending?
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I keep forgetting that you're canadian so it's probably really difficult for yu to extrapolate from incomplete data sets... now count to potato for us
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danielx said: Your solution isnt a very good solution. I have alot of psychologist/mental health workers in my family, and most of them claim its almost impossible to "rehabilitate" child molester offenders.
And it makes sense. If society today told me its illegal and wrong to have sex with woman, and all I was legally allowed to have sex with men, I'm sure I would break the law to have sex. Even if I tried hard not to, its natural. I see these people as sick, but I realize how hard it must be to stay away from what they deem attractive.
That's not quite the same thing. Do you rape women when you can't get laid? Most people jerk off or wait. There seems to be this idea pedos can't stop themselves. They have the same sex drive normal men have. If you are able to not rape women, they are able to not rape children. Celibacy may suck but it's not impossible, or even difficult. Fuck I am on month 3 since the gf left. It's not difficult to not rape. It may be impossible to eradicate deviant sexual fantasies, in that sense no they cannot be cured. The question is if they can be trained to not act on the urges. And since no program will ever be 100 percent successful in stopping reoffending, what percent success rate will society accept? Even if one person went on to reoffend, they will be the ones that make the media stories.
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I have 2 words for you...
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Shlong, apology accepted sir.
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Thank you
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: my3rdeye]
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I keep forgetting that you're canadian so it's probably really difficult for yu to extrapolate from incomplete data sets... now count to potato for us
Aren't you from Georgia? You should not be talking dude.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
#22286613 - 09/24/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I feel bad for someone who actually thinks they should feel bad for pedophiles.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: my3rdeye]
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I never said they all had a stronger drive or were less capable of not acting on their urges. It's a person by person basis. I'm not saying having those desires automatically means you cannot control them or refuse to act on them. Some people are better at denying who they are or not acting on urges (not even limited to sexual ones, just like some heroin addicts can up and walk away from it and some struggle with it until they OD) than others are. The people who have repeatedly said they can't control themselves, are speaking honestly. They feel they don't have the willpower to stop. If they were gay in Iran they probably wouldn't be able to stop that, either.
http://www.qt.com.au/news/Ipswich-pedophile-begs-to-be-castrated/237440/
I dunno how effective it would be, I've heard people say that it only ends up making things worse, but when someone is begging for castration because they feel they can't control themselves, it's a pretty good indicator they are probably not really built for self control/discipline. They want it to stop but don't feel as if they can do it through willpower alone.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22286631 - 09/24/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: I feel bad for someone who actually thinks they should feel bad for pedophiles.
That is fucked up in and of itself.  
unless he sympathizes because he's a pedophile, i don't see how...how does having empathy make you fucked up?
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