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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
#22282895 - 09/24/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.
The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22282899 - 09/24/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: go abort some babies until you can answer me
alright i won't try and be clever...yes, you're right Prisoner (excluding the aforementioned fact that "kid" or "child" is not a gender) you're a very intelligent and enlightened individual.
so you're saying all you can do is try to pick apart the language and cannot provide an answer
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22282920 - 09/24/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.
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Shroomslip said: How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.
The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.
basically, opt for euthanization of future pedophiles.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22282926 - 09/24/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.
but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22282930 - 09/24/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.
I'd agree with this.. I don't think he's being too extreme or anything, just a spark for discussion
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22282935 - 09/24/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.
but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions
He's Canadian? I thought he was from CO
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#22282939 - 09/24/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.
The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.
This reply only makes half sense.
How does this reply justify "punish the victims" to break the cycle? Victims need therapy, not punishment. Not isolation. No victim HAS to become an abuser. It just constantly happens because we abandon them. Large majority of victims aren't even close to puberty and sexuality. They go for a year or two and then just stop. A lot of times (I'm assuming) because going regularly is expensive. Ideally they should have therapy available to them for many years after coming into their sexuality. In a lot of cases, it's a treatable "condition". Yet rather than try to treat afterwards, how about we try to treat it before it happens?
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22282943 - 09/24/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well this thread got interesting fast. I left for 45 minutes and it's already filled with replies.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
#22282946 - 09/24/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe pedophilia is wrong. Although, i feel that modern society sort of prolonged childhood with christmas and bambi. Back in the day your old enough to bleed your old enough to breed. As well as work, chop firewood carry water ect. Children were treated as young adults.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22282947 - 09/24/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.
Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way.
so let me get this straight
when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference... maybe someone can explain to me how his works
oh was that a question?
yes i can explain it to you.
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Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?
Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?
why not use it as a tool? because it's hurting the child that's in the video, it's illegal, it encourages sexual attitudes towards kids which will only drive the pedophile into a further pursuit of sex, and it's just plain abhorrent. yes it's you're (i was gonna say "yes you're crazy" but opted for the following, and left the incorrect grammar; don't you just hate when you change your mind about shit?) your natural batshit exposition.
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but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions
there Pris; questions answered.
Edited by akira_akuma (09/24/15 09:59 AM)
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
#22282962 - 09/24/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i really think that Patlal was just pondering possibilities rather than commiserating with liberal ideology.
but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions
He's Canadian? I thought he was from CO
it's the same thing, colorado is just south canadia
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: shLong]
#22282963 - 09/24/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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He's Canadian? I thought he was from CO

no i'm not.......
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22282971 - 09/24/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does it matter which country we are from?
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22282972 - 09/24/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said:
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Patlal said: Now before this thread flames out, let me explain.
Sexual orientation is pretty much determined in the womb. Straight people are naturally straight. Gay people are naturally gay and I believe that pedophiles are simply born that way.
so let me get this straight
when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference... maybe someone can explain to me how his works
oh was that a question?
yes i can explain it to you.
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Of course, if they act on it, they should be punished. Our culture will never allow that. but if the pedophile says that he has strong urges, the psychologist could "prescribe" him a DVD containing an hour of the already abundant child pornography so he doesn't go and rape a child. It's already out there, why not just use it as a tool you know?
Does that make sense to any of you or am I just my natural bat shit crazy?
why not use it as a tool? because it's hurting the child that's in the video, it's illegal, it encourages sexual attitudes towards kids which will only drive the pedophile into a further pursuit of sex, and it's just plain abhorrent. yes it's your natural batshit exposition.
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Prisoner#1 said:
but being the intelligent canadian you proclaim to be, surely you could answer both his and my questions
there Pris; questions answered.
that would be "a question is answered"
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Patlal]
#22282978 - 09/24/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Does it matter which country we are from?
yes because like the gay/pedophile fetus, you dont have a choice, you're born that way
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22282979 - 09/24/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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don't blame me for your phrasing.
"when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference...."
no. answer sufficient?
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: akira_akuma]
#22282988 - 09/24/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: don't blame me for your phrasing.
"when it comes to abortion, a fetus is not a person but when it comes to sexual orientation, a fetus has a gender preference...."
no. answer sufficient?
that should read "sufficient answer?"
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22282998 - 09/24/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wait, what the fuck. I agree 100% with Patel.
One thing that people neglect to realize is the difference between a pedophile and a child molester.
The vast majority of pedophiles are non-offending, meaning they do not take the leap into actually acting upon their thoughts.
To compare pedophiles to actual child molesters is an ignorant statement.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22283003 - 09/24/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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or "answer: sufficient?" rather. didn't think it was too important considering your disdain for picking apart language.
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Re: I feel bad for pedophiles. [Re: Shroomslip]
#22283016 - 09/24/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said:
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Ellis Dee said:
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Shroomslip said: How you thought that reply was even remotely relevant to what I said is beyond me.
The way to break a cycle is to break it. If you have a supply of future pedophiles created by present pedophiles the removal of the futue pedophile supply, the removal of the victims (future pedophiles), breaks the cycle. If you want to continue the cycle, just continue it, council the future pedophiles for them to feel good about themselves.
This reply only makes half sense.
How does this reply justify "punish the victims" to break the cycle? Victims need therapy, not punishment. Not isolation. No victim HAS to become an abuser. It just constantly happens because we abandon them. Large majority of victims aren't even close to puberty and sexuality. They go for a year or two and then just stop. A lot of times (I'm assuming) because going regularly is expensive. Ideally they should have therapy available to them for many years after coming into their sexuality. In a lot of cases, it's a treatable "condition". Yet rather than try to treat afterwards, how about we try to treat it before it happens?
When it comes to prophalyxis I think we are on the same page. I simply think that best way to prevent the spread of a disease is quarantine and you think its through letting them go out in public.
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