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Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca
#22282598 - 09/24/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: Mental Taco]
#22282677 - 09/24/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really feel there is an inverse proportion between the amount of people around me and the number of times I get trampled. . . or in other words - get the to a shrubbery - alone!
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: Hippocampus]
#22282973 - 09/24/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now how can we get 1.5 billion in one small space?
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: T-Funkadelic]
#22283134 - 09/24/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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just be free of sadness & everything comes so easy.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Now how can we get 1.5 billion in one small space?
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OrgoneConclusion said: Now how can we get 1.5 billion in one small space?
That's it?
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: Does]
#22284058 - 09/24/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The article, unfortunately, didn't mention or theorise on what caused the stampede. I really want to know what on earth could make people do that.
Well, religion I guess!
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Not too long ago i remember reading about a crane in the mosque collapsing and killing a lot of people as they were getting things ready for hajj. Can't they take the hint that God doesn't want them doing this thing anymore?
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: White Beard]
#22284393 - 09/24/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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White Beard said: Can't they take the hint that God doesn't want them doing this thing anymore?
Brilliant.
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: White Beard]
#22284514 - 09/24/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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White Beard said: Not too long ago i remember reading about a crane in the mosque collapsing and killing a lot of people as they were getting things ready for hajj. Can't they take the hint that God doesn't want them doing this thing anymore?
It's kind of speculative (for lack of a better word) to think of what they were thinking, and how agreeable or not this practice is. It sounds like their own business, in principle, what they do with their lives to me.
If it is not an ethical matter, I wonder what posts like the OP are even about. Its sounds like a conservative news feed, with a dopey conservative pundit, rather than anything philosophical.
But yeah there is something to it. White bread americans can't just stop sniffing around. When there actually is actually a clash of values, everybody is all warmed up, in their hackles already.
Bullshit OC. What's the topic? Sticking your nose in it?
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: Kurt]
#22284574 - 09/24/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder if you can link a single stampede death linked to atheism.
These people were all emotionally worked up stoning a fictitious Satan.
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It sounds like their own business, in principle, what they do with their lives to me.
But it is not my own business what threads I start? Cannot have it both ways.
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I swear I've heard this story in years past. Isn't there often a deadly stampede during the hajj to mecca? I wonder how the odds of a muslim dying in a stampede compare to other people.
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: Hippocampus]
#22284646 - 09/24/15 04:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hippocampus said: Isn't there often a deadly stampede during the hajj to mecca?
Apparently so.
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How many virgins do you get for dying in a stampede?
How come Muslim women are not rewarded with male virgins for dying in the cause?
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: Hippocampus]
#22284671 - 09/24/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hippocampus said: I swear I've heard this story in years past. Isn't there often a deadly stampede during the hajj to mecca? I wonder how the odds of a muslim dying in a stampede compare to other people.
It is like the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona. The threat of physical danger makes it appealing.
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: orison]
#22285245 - 09/24/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I heard this on the radio just now as I was driving home and I laughed out really loudly.
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Re: Stampede kills 700+ in Mecca [Re: circastes]
#22285407 - 09/24/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just goes to show how retarded religion really is.
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OrgoneConclusion said: I wonder if you can link a single stampede death linked to atheism.
These people were all emotionally worked up stoning a fictitious Satan.
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It sounds like their own business, in principle, what they do with their lives to me.
But it is not my own business what threads I start? Cannot have it both ways. 
I would say my disagreement is in principle OC. In principle it would be hard to link atheism with any specific embodied practices, or means and ends, or even any typical expression of belief or ideology, but maybe some people manage that, in being reactionary. That, you could say, is mainly "atheism" aside from a rather unclarifiable notion (in its own restraints) of having no God.
In reactions in general there is definitely a link to the great herd phenomenon. I have no opinion on what is the best herd, and I don't think that is a philosophical topic.
Of course don't let me impinge on any moral right to rev up a cult of reactions here OC, as I see you strive for irony, but irony aside, that doesn't mean there is philosophical substance in what you've said, particularly in comparing one case of an ostensible group's thinking with another's. I am sure you can draw associations just as good as Glenn Beck can manage to on a chalkboard, and get a reaction but this is something else.
Philosophy would provisionally start in the idea of assuming principles, and practices which are found in minding one's own way in the world. To my understanding, it's something personal. These people are representing a philosophy and their freedom to live by it, within their own sense of consequence, (they are living and dying). I see no particular virtue in it, but I am looking from the outside at a philosophy. But I think philosophy is first established in something which belongs to me, or you, or someone else, in this significant sense. Within its own assumptions, it raises the issue of a substantive base or principle of reason, but first it is found in a self contained way of being.
So to clarify, I am questioning the substance of this topic, because we are speaking within an assumed convention or form here. You present a philosophical subject, or question and conversation goes from there. You may think this is the place for a droll media feed, and I won't hinder that other than in asking a question of the substance of that.
I think you are making a mistake in confusing these provisions of dialogue and argument with grounds of being in the world, but that is a personal philosophy thing, I guess. Still, I am within reason to inquire, and so are you. I hope I'm not being too hard put in this question. I would just like to do philosophy, so what is the subject?
Actually, maybe we should just start a "religion and critique" subforum, where we each argue for what the best herd is and the best way to tend a herd for atheists, christians, muslims, and all the rest. See ya there?
Ah just kidding OC, all in good fun... Or do we really have a philosophical premise here?
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Re: No subject matter [Re: Kurt] 1
#22285933 - 09/24/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: No subject matter [Re: Hobozen]
#22287362 - 09/25/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Saudi govt realizes this problem. They had about 350 people trampled to death there a few decades ago. They tried to change the architecture there but obviously that didn't work.
If they were atheists they would have to think it was a Who concert or Pearl Jam.
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