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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?
    #22281934 - 09/24/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead] * 2
    #22281959 - 09/24/15 01:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The greatest achievement of man is Big Trouble in Little China.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22281964 - 09/24/15 01:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its a reflection of our greatest failure;
the inability to solve basic problems of mankind


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: nice1returns] * 2
    #22281965 - 09/24/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Exploring vagina was the greatest achievement of man.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead] * 2
    #22281979 - 09/24/15 02:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

To me, there is little if anything that holds more substance and importance than the study of the universe and pushing the boundaries on what we understand of the fabric of reality itself. Space exploration plays a rather fundamental role in that.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods] * 1
    #22281980 - 09/24/15 02:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We haven't even grasped the concept of maintaining our own planet.  Maybe pump the funds into....our planet...food.....housing for all....before we take pictures of pluto?  I dunno....call me crazy.....


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22281982 - 09/24/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Grasping a concept and carrying it out are two different realities. Why would we need to carry out what we know we should do in order to carry out what we aspire to do? Feeding the hungry doesn't get in the way of exploring space. Shit most people on this forum probably aren't thinking about the hungry when they are exploring the space in their heads... Kind of a buzzkill to be honest...


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22281986 - 09/24/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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We haven't even grasped the concept of maintaining our own planet.  Maybe pump the funds into....our planet...food.....housing for all....before we take pictures of pluto?  I dunno....call me crazy.....




Taking on these ambitious projects advances engineering especially, but many other fields as well. Gravity Probe B required the most perfect spheres ever manufactured. You don't think some innovation was required for the project? That's just one example.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #22281990 - 09/24/15 02:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Greatest achievement of man was the invention of bacon, steaks, ribs, brisket, grilling, smoking and BBQ sauce.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 3
    #22281999 - 09/24/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did you know that the amount of money that goes into NASA funding equates to less than one half of one percent of the annual US budget. 0.48% IIRC.

You have a long list of other things to complain about being wastes of money before you can start pointing the finger at a field of science that on top of all else, inspires innovation (which in turn is good for economy), acts a part of the process of science that helps us to advance in other areas, reminds us of our place in the universe and our need to preserve our planet and marks some of mankind's most admirable achievements. That's just the tip of the iceberg.



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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22282053 - 09/24/15 03:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Did you know that the amount of money that goes into NASA funding equates to less than one half of one percent of the annual US budget. 0.48% IIRC.

You have a long list of other things to complain about being wastes of money before you can start pointing the finger at a field of science that on top of all else, inspires innovation (which in turn is good for economy), acts a part of the process of science that helps us to advance in other areas, reminds us of our place in the universe and our need to preserve our planet and marks some of mankind's most admirable achievements. That's just the tip of the iceberg.







If I blew all my money on theories and hopes, I'd be one hungry motherfucker. I tried that.

Space is a waste. The digger we deep, the less we maintain and forget about. 

Science went too far years and years ago, and now the US is just prescription pill ads and dimwits who never even study and damn thing because it changes every 2 years.

I gave up on it completely. Wondering. Getting excited for close ups of rocks light years away.  I just go on hikes through the woods and relax when I can.  When I think about space my mind damn near pops.


And yes when I trip I think about starving people.  Buzzkill?  How is it a buzzkill to eat a psychedelic and feel the souls of the hurt.....to feel the pain and walk in others shows proverbially?  I guess I am getting out of touch....but most psyches, especially real lsd 25 and mushrooms and mescaline....remind me of how little I am doing within my own life, and forget about the grand scheme.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 5
    #22282055 - 09/24/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:picard: It's really sad how prevalent anti-intellectual and anti-science sentiment is.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22282057 - 09/24/15 03:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

science is like church. Extremists bickering over possibilities making things up as they go along, changing what they already made up to make it sound logical and real.

I don't negate science. I don't negate church. I don't invest in either.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22282059 - 09/24/15 03:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And of course my intellect gets insulted for having an opinion on a matter. Typical.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 1
    #22282066 - 09/24/15 03:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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science is like church. Extremists bickering over possibilities making things up as they go along, changing what they already made up to make it sound logical and real.

I don't negate science. I don't negate church. I don't invest in either.




The body of scientific knowledge changes because it is inherently self-correcting and changes as new knowledge is discovered, not because they're randomly making shit up. That's the entire point of it.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22282067 - 09/24/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And of course my intellect gets insulted for having an opinion on a matter. Typical.




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Anti-intellectualism is hostility towards and mistrust of intellect, intellectuals, and intellectual pursuits, usually expressed as the derision of education, philosophy, literature, art, and science, as impractical and contemptible.




Being anti-science is clearly being anti-intellectual.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22282079 - 09/24/15 03:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And of course my intellect gets insulted for having an opinion on a matter. Typical.




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Anti-intellectualism is hostility towards and mistrust of intellect, intellectuals, and intellectual pursuits, usually expressed as the derision of education, philosophy, literature, art, and science, as impractical and contemptible.




Being anti-science is clearly being anti-intellectual.





Aren't we having a science debate right now? If I was anti science I would've just over looked this entire thread. I'm giving you my opinion on it, how I see it. 

I think it's a waste more times than not.....and most of it is theory, which is why it is changing constantly, because another nutcase debunks some other nutcases theory. 

To think for a second we could honestly figure it all out is foolish.  We can't even figure out how to have a whole planet unite......yet we are pumping money into shooting monkeys into space to die?


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22282088 - 09/24/15 03:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And of course my intellect gets insulted for having an opinion on a matter. Typical.




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Anti-intellectualism is hostility towards and mistrust of intellect, intellectuals, and intellectual pursuits, usually expressed as the derision of education, philosophy, literature, art, and science, as impractical and contemptible.




Being anti-science is clearly being anti-intellectual.





Aren't we having a science debate right now? If I was anti science I would've just over looked this entire thread. I'm giving you my opinion on it, how I see it. 

I think it's a waste more times than not.....and most of it is theory, which is why it is changing constantly, because another nutcase debunks some other nutcases theory. 

To think for a second we could honestly figure it all out is foolish.  We can't even figure out how to have a whole planet unite......yet we are pumping money into shooting monkeys into space to die?




I'll just leave this here


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22282110 - 09/24/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I went ahead and edited a few things on that wikipedia page.  I'm a scientist now right?


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 1
    #22282128 - 09/24/15 04:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said: Getting excited for close ups of rocks light years away. 




Pluto is not light years away. It's about four light hours. There are no close ups of anything light years away.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22282146 - 09/24/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, there is little if anything that holds more substance and importance than the study of the universe and pushing the boundaries on what we understand of the fabric of reality itself. Space exploration plays a rather fundamental role in that.



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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 1
    #22282240 - 09/24/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Vandago,

So you're anti scientific theory now? I'm not sure you understand entirely what you are saying, sir.

Just because you yourself have given up on scientific exploration (and new concepts and corrections in science) and you can't think about space because your mind almost pops, does not mean everybody else ought to just throw in the towel and focus their energies towards throwing another Woodstock. (Not that I have anything against Woodstock), however without scientific advancement, we wouldn't have come anywhere near as far as we have, nor would we have much hope for preserving our species, let alone the planet.

Science is a process and you cannot just cut a tremendous chunk out of it (particularly the study of the universe, the oldest science there is) and expect their would be no repercussions or delays as far as advancement in other areas. Try looking it at it as part of the bigger picture.

Now, sure there are things we may never know as far as the bigger questions, but with an attitude such as yours we wouldn't know much as far as answers to the smaller ones either.

I'll be damned if I ever turn a blind eye to my yearning to know more of the nature of our reality and to push the limits on what we don't know. Different people have different strong suits, various passions and curiosities and abilities and desires to contribute to and explore various fields of interest.

Every privileged and capable minded individual who feels an obligation to do their part in which ever parameters they feel able, necessary and fascinated by has the freedom to focus their time and energy where they will and it would be a sadder world were that not true. I sorely hope the future generations of people to come into political power and positions responsible for the ways of the world are more scientifically literate than the last, respect the inherent nature of human wonder and exploration that leads us forwards as a species and take further action to absolve that which holds others back from standards of living where more can be so privileged.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22282378 - 09/24/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





At this point I'd have to say no. Engineering achievements on Earth have had bigger payoffs for humanity, as important as communications and GPS satellites are (those do count as being in outer space right?) Space exploration is certainly impressive but I don't think it will beat everything else out for "greatest achievement" until/unless we can actually terraform other planets or moons and make them livable.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: psi]
    #22282406 - 09/24/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno that terraforming would really be any more viable of an option than interstellar travel in stasis. We really don't have either of those technologies yet. It really depends on the reason why we're leaving Earth though. Finding a habitable planet may take 10x as long, but if we're leaving because Earth cannot sustain life anymore, it's really the only option. I'm not overly knowledgeable on it, but from what I've read/watched, turning a planet into a new Earth would take thousands of years. Meaning if we're on course for total global disaster within the next few hundred years, we should've been terraforming our new home around the same time the pyramids were being built.

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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 2
    #22282456 - 09/24/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And yes when I trip I think about starving people.  Buzzkill?  How is it a buzzkill to eat a psychedelic and feel the souls of the hurt.....to feel the pain and walk in others shows proverbially?  I guess I am getting out of touch....but most psyches, especially real lsd 25 and mushrooms and mescaline....remind me of how little I am doing within my own life, and forget about the grand scheme.



You are seriously deluded if you think getting high allows you to feel the pain of those in poverty starvation and persecution. Get fucking real.


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    #22282475 - 09/24/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And yes when I trip I think about starving people.  Buzzkill?  How is it a buzzkill to eat a psychedelic and feel the souls of the hurt.....to feel the pain and walk in others shows proverbially?  I guess I am getting out of touch....but most psyches, especially real lsd 25 and mushrooms and mescaline....remind me of how little I am doing within my own life, and forget about the grand scheme.



You are seriously deluded if you think getting high allows you to feel the pain of those in poverty starvation and persecution. Get fucking real.




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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Niffla]
    #22282484 - 09/24/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there


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    #22282546 - 09/24/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there




How many exoplanets have you discovered with this method?


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22282588 - 09/24/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Never said I discovered any planets....

When I go in there I can't remember much unfortunately so their isn't much room for making coherent discoveries.

The best I can explain is after about 2 minutes into the DMT trip I find myself in a strange geometric room that was once my bedroom. The interior is filled with these strange ET creatures that are impossible to describe. They don't look like grey aliens or any sort of conventional aliens  but are more like strange tall creatures with a horn on their heads and one of them clearly looked like a green red eyed unicorn. My room became like a platform of some sort and looked completely ethereal and tricked out. I looked up into the roof and the roof had turned into outer space. I could clearly see the stairs and blackness of space. As I moved about the space platform I could feel myself floating and shifting dimensions and coming in contact with strange alien creatures.

Shit is pretty weird


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    #22282651 - 09/24/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The elusive green red-eyed unicorn. :0


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22282674 - 09/24/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, there is little if anything that holds more substance and importance than the study of the universe



Sure this is interesting and important but tackling disease and improving human health seems more important no?


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    #22282695 - 09/24/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, there is little if anything that holds more substance and importance than the study of the universe



Sure this is interesting and important but tackling disease and improving human health seems more important no?




The two are quite linked together. One does not preclude the other because experts are not cross-discipline. An expert in particle physics would be of little use in a genetic research laboratory.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22282789 - 09/24/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there



No.

No.

No.

Three good hits of DMT and you're incapable of seeing of even seeing your own planet, much less outer space.

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science is like church. Extremists bickering over possibilities making things up as they go along, changing what they already made up to make it sound logical and real.

I don't negate science.




No.

No.

No.

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    #22282804 - 09/24/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there



No.

No.

No.

Three good hits of DMT and you're incapable of seeing of even seeing your own planet, much less outer space.

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science is like church. Extremists bickering over possibilities making things up as they go along, changing what they already made up to make it sound logical and real.

I don't negate science.




No.

No.

No.

That is the kids who are smoking DMT in their bedrooms.



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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22282822 - 09/24/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





I was actually thinking about this just the other day, not quite in the greatest
achievement, but in what single invention has advanced man more than any other


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22282880 - 09/24/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





I was actually thinking about this just the other day, not quite in the greatest
achievement, but in what single invention has advanced man more than any other




Antibiotics. Or, if you count it, germ theory of disease.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #22282890 - 09/24/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The greatest achievement of man would be the day people learn to live together, and help one another.

So, our greatest achievement will never happen. Man blows..


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22282908 - 09/24/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





I was actually thinking about this just the other day, not quite in the greatest
achievement, but in what single invention has advanced man more than any other




Antibiotics. Or, if you count it, germ theory of disease.





antibiotics isnt responsible for civilizations advancement to what it is today


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22282952 - 09/24/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mankind's Greatest Achievement:



..or perhaps the creation of distractions?


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: morrowasted]
    #22282974 - 09/24/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there



No.

No.

No.

Three good hits of DMT and you're incapable of seeing of even seeing your own planet, much less outer space.

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I don't negate science.




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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22282976 - 09/24/15 10:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Vote and discuss chaotically.




No.

Asteroid mining & colonization would be.

Shooting up rockets is great and all that but yeah...


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22282993 - 09/24/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i'll quote you

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Did you know that the amount of money that goes into NASA funding equates to less than one half of one percent of the annual US budget. 0.48% IIRC.





Yep and 1000's of billions into military.
Sorry if I come of as bitter but your government is cancer.
I have my hopes up for Deep Space Mining & Planetary resources.
Shame it'll take 100 years rather then 10.


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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





I was actually thinking about this just the other day, not quite in the greatest
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Antibiotics. Or, if you count it, germ theory of disease.





antibiotics isnt responsible for civilizations advancement to what it is today




You said single greatest advancement. It's either antibiotics/germ theory or the Haber Process.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Beanhead]
    #22283002 - 09/24/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

no rapein the earth ferociously is our greatest achievement


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: psi]
    #22283015 - 09/24/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





At this point I'd have to say no. Engineering achievements on Earth have had bigger payoffs for humanity, as important as communications and GPS satellites are (those do count as being in outer space right?) Space exploration is certainly impressive but I don't think it will beat everything else out for "greatest achievement" until/unless we can actually terraform other planets or moons and make them livable.




Also this


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    #22283086 - 09/24/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i'll quote you

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Into The Woods said:
Did you know that the amount of money that goes into NASA funding equates to less than one half of one percent of the annual US budget. 0.48% IIRC.





Yep and 1000's of billions into military.
Sorry if I come of as bitter but your government is cancer.
I have my hopes up for Deep Space Mining & Planetary resources.
Shame it'll take 100 years rather then 10.




For the record, I'm not American. I posted that because I assume most on these boards are and it seems highly likely the guy I was trying to make my point to could be as well.

I certainly agree with you that it is a shame, and I was just trying to imply by the ellipsis that one might consider mining in space a product of space exploration.


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    #22283387 - 09/24/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

War is the greatest achievement of man. More specifically nuclear weapons are.


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    #22283406 - 09/24/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yes yes yes yes a million times yes.

getting off this rock and seeing it from an outside perspective was the single greatest influence in the way we perceive ourselves

turning the mirror back on itself. impossible but crucial to the concept of collective "Awakening" or "enlightenment" or any of that on a mass level

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    #22286624 - 09/24/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Vandago,

So you're anti scientific theory now? I'm not sure you understand entirely what you are saying, sir.

Just because you yourself have given up on scientific exploration (and new concepts and corrections in science) and you can't think about space because your mind almost pops, does not mean everybody else ought to just throw in the towel and focus their energies towards throwing another Woodstock. (Not that I have anything against Woodstock), however without scientific advancement, we wouldn't have come anywhere near as far as we have, nor would we have much hope for preserving our species, let alone the planet.

Science is a process and you cannot just cut a tremendous chunk out of it (particularly the study of the universe, the oldest science there is) and expect their would be no repercussions or delays as far as advancement in other areas. Try looking it at it as part of the bigger picture.

Now, sure there are things we may never know as far as the bigger questions, but with an attitude such as yours we wouldn't know much as far as answers to the smaller ones either.

I'll be damned if I ever turn a blind eye to my yearning to know more of the nature of our reality and to push the limits on what we don't know. Different people have different strong suits, various passions and curiosities and abilities and desires to contribute to and explore various fields of interest.

Every privileged and capable minded individual who feels an obligation to do their part in which ever parameters they feel able, necessary and fascinated by has the freedom to focus their time and energy where they will and it would be a sadder world were that not true. I sorely hope the future generations of people to come into political power and positions responsible for the ways of the world are more scientifically literate than the last, respect the inherent nature of human wonder and exploration that leads us forwards as a species and take further action to absolve that which holds others back from standards of living where more can be so privileged.






I don't want another woodstock.  I actually stopped going to concerts and festivals all together.  Haven't been to one in over a year.  Not for me anymore.

Anything that is theory makes my brain want to pop. I'm over analytical, and ignorant on purpose.  The more I know the more I question, and the less I actually figure out.  I really can only learn through personal life experiences, and that's just me.


When I say maintaining our own planet, why do you say "festival"?  Those things are on of the most detrimental things ( the bigger ones any ways ).....millions of dollars are pumped into making 19 year olds go death and retarded on bad drugs.  I didn't say stop shooting rockets into space and start raging did I?

I also hate fireworks.  With a passion.  We celebrate our "independence" by wasting millions of dollars in explosives every year? 

I have an opinion on something.....I'm not picketing against it.  I don't indulge my brain into it anymore, because frankly I don't enjoy the places it takes me.  My memory is also going more every day.....so I don't want to frustrate myself trying to remember who's currently studying what, and who's debunking what, and what we thought was wasn't......I'd rather just make a sandwich and try not to litter and be in the woods.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22287718 - 09/25/15 09:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was being a bit facetious with the Woodstock comment. :calledajoke:

Well, I'm glad not everyone thinks like you, ignorance is repressive and often enough, dangerous. But I wish that more of those with no interest in or desire to be a part of the process of science and the intellectual and cosmic advancement of our species would maintain an effort not to litter.  :thumbup:

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I'm over analytical, and ignorant on purpose.




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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago]
    #22287819 - 09/25/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I dont think anyone is arguing we should also be self sufficient on earth and fund ways to provide food and water and decrease pollution, but the reality of that is,, we can do that if we wanted. But for some reason people who make big decisions obviously don't want a huge populated planet so they let those things slide.. that will happen, they know the earth is over populated and at this rate of population expansion, we will have to look at becoming .. not sure the term, but a term for a civilization that lives in say a space station in its own solar system.
  the human race has no option but to expand into space and further our search, man was ment to explore,its in our genetic make up, the planet would probably be able to heal it self if were not jam packed with humans. So to say that space exploration should not be sought, is basically dooming our species not to thrive and possibly become extinct.


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    #22287984 - 09/25/15 11:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That is not a viable option currently. A space station will never be able to house any significant amount people because of cost alone. Youre literally burning through enough resources to sustain 500-600 people in the ground to send one person up there. Which is retarded. A much more realistic option is learning how to effectively manage ourselves. Something that's gonna require switching from a capitilist system into something more socially driven. Our inclination to orthodoxy makes me doubt that's ever gonna happen before a serious die off event occurs.


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Greatest achievement of man is probably antiseptics
What Would Donnie Darko Do?
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You mean soap?

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You mean soap?

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I guess some soap is antiseptic but no
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    #22288127 - 09/25/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I honestly think its a tie between computing and electric motors. Those two alone have brought us so many day to day advancements its not even funny.


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You mean soap?

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I guess some soap is antiseptic but no
I mean germ killers so doctors can perform surgeries without everyone getting gangrene, etc.




I was quoting the movie.


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    #22288171 - 09/25/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Greatest achievement of man is ethics I'd say but obviously its subjective so sure why not space :shrug:


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You mean soap?

:tongue:




I guess some soap is antiseptic but no
I mean germ killers so doctors can perform surgeries without everyone getting gangrene, etc.




I was quoting the movie.



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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Swyfty Swyf]
    #22298632 - 09/27/15 01:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mans greatest achievement is fire. It's probably the most influential thing throughout the majority of human history. Only until very recently s fire not used to such a wide range of extent. And even then, it is still used.


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I was not implying that we would be living in space anytime soon, but unless people become infertile and stop reproducing, space would be the next step off this mass of water.lol


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Mans greatest achievement is fire. It's probably the most influential thing throughout the majority of human history. Only until very recently s fire not used to such a wide range of extent. And even then, it is still used.




Fire is easy, we've done and can do a hell of a lot better than that. :lol:


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22298773 - 09/27/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I like to take credit for things others have done just like everybody, but I have to be honest with you guys: I did not have anything to do with exploring outern space, it is not my greatest achievement.


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Without fire, we would never been able to get into space. It is mankinds greatest and most useful acheivement.


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By that logic, fucking is mankind's greatest achievement. If we didn't fuck, the species would've died off long before we could've invented fire.


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Fire is the most influential invention of mankind. That's why I consider it the greatest. It's not the flashiest, but it is one of the only things that brought us to where we are today.


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So did fucking :yesnod:


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    #22299021 - 09/27/15 03:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)




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    #22299474 - 09/27/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We didn't invent fucking. Our primate ancestors fucked and their ancestors did too.


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    #22299501 - 09/27/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If we could "achieve" fire, we can "achieve" fucking. Both existed in nature long before we came along. It's just semantics though. I really don't want to go dragging this shit out and go back and fourth and point out how every iteration of the way to phrase "harnessing fire" was an achievement can also be similarly applied to fucking and reproduction.


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Without fire, we would never been able to get into space. It is mankinds greatest and most useful acheivement.




But space got us fire

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