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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22282146 - 09/24/15 04:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, there is little if anything that holds more substance and importance than the study of the universe and pushing the boundaries on what we understand of the fabric of reality itself. Space exploration plays a rather fundamental role in that.



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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 1
    #22282240 - 09/24/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Vandago,

So you're anti scientific theory now? I'm not sure you understand entirely what you are saying, sir.

Just because you yourself have given up on scientific exploration (and new concepts and corrections in science) and you can't think about space because your mind almost pops, does not mean everybody else ought to just throw in the towel and focus their energies towards throwing another Woodstock. (Not that I have anything against Woodstock), however without scientific advancement, we wouldn't have come anywhere near as far as we have, nor would we have much hope for preserving our species, let alone the planet.

Science is a process and you cannot just cut a tremendous chunk out of it (particularly the study of the universe, the oldest science there is) and expect their would be no repercussions or delays as far as advancement in other areas. Try looking it at it as part of the bigger picture.

Now, sure there are things we may never know as far as the bigger questions, but with an attitude such as yours we wouldn't know much as far as answers to the smaller ones either.

I'll be damned if I ever turn a blind eye to my yearning to know more of the nature of our reality and to push the limits on what we don't know. Different people have different strong suits, various passions and curiosities and abilities and desires to contribute to and explore various fields of interest.

Every privileged and capable minded individual who feels an obligation to do their part in which ever parameters they feel able, necessary and fascinated by has the freedom to focus their time and energy where they will and it would be a sadder world were that not true. I sorely hope the future generations of people to come into political power and positions responsible for the ways of the world are more scientifically literate than the last, respect the inherent nature of human wonder and exploration that leads us forwards as a species and take further action to absolve that which holds others back from standards of living where more can be so privileged.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22282378 - 09/24/15 07:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





At this point I'd have to say no. Engineering achievements on Earth have had bigger payoffs for humanity, as important as communications and GPS satellites are (those do count as being in outer space right?) Space exploration is certainly impressive but I don't think it will beat everything else out for "greatest achievement" until/unless we can actually terraform other planets or moons and make them livable.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: psi]
    #22282406 - 09/24/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno that terraforming would really be any more viable of an option than interstellar travel in stasis. We really don't have either of those technologies yet. It really depends on the reason why we're leaving Earth though. Finding a habitable planet may take 10x as long, but if we're leaving because Earth cannot sustain life anymore, it's really the only option. I'm not overly knowledgeable on it, but from what I've read/watched, turning a planet into a new Earth would take thousands of years. Meaning if we're on course for total global disaster within the next few hundred years, we should've been terraforming our new home around the same time the pyramids were being built.

Just my opinion.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: vandago] * 2
    #22282456 - 09/24/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And yes when I trip I think about starving people.  Buzzkill?  How is it a buzzkill to eat a psychedelic and feel the souls of the hurt.....to feel the pain and walk in others shows proverbially?  I guess I am getting out of touch....but most psyches, especially real lsd 25 and mushrooms and mescaline....remind me of how little I am doing within my own life, and forget about the grand scheme.



You are seriously deluded if you think getting high allows you to feel the pain of those in poverty starvation and persecution. Get fucking real.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: ohcrapitsnico]
    #22282475 - 09/24/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:

And yes when I trip I think about starving people.  Buzzkill?  How is it a buzzkill to eat a psychedelic and feel the souls of the hurt.....to feel the pain and walk in others shows proverbially?  I guess I am getting out of touch....but most psyches, especially real lsd 25 and mushrooms and mescaline....remind me of how little I am doing within my own life, and forget about the grand scheme.



You are seriously deluded if you think getting high allows you to feel the pain of those in poverty starvation and persecution. Get fucking real.




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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Niffla]
    #22282484 - 09/24/15 08:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22282546 - 09/24/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there




How many exoplanets have you discovered with this method?


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22282588 - 09/24/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Never said I discovered any planets....

When I go in there I can't remember much unfortunately so their isn't much room for making coherent discoveries.

The best I can explain is after about 2 minutes into the DMT trip I find myself in a strange geometric room that was once my bedroom. The interior is filled with these strange ET creatures that are impossible to describe. They don't look like grey aliens or any sort of conventional aliens  but are more like strange tall creatures with a horn on their heads and one of them clearly looked like a green red eyed unicorn. My room became like a platform of some sort and looked completely ethereal and tricked out. I looked up into the roof and the roof had turned into outer space. I could clearly see the stairs and blackness of space. As I moved about the space platform I could feel myself floating and shifting dimensions and coming in contact with strange alien creatures.

Shit is pretty weird


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22282651 - 09/24/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The elusive green red-eyed unicorn. :0


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #22282674 - 09/24/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, there is little if anything that holds more substance and importance than the study of the universe



Sure this is interesting and important but tackling disease and improving human health seems more important no?


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: sunkeep]
    #22282695 - 09/24/15 09:00 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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To me, there is little if anything that holds more substance and importance than the study of the universe



Sure this is interesting and important but tackling disease and improving human health seems more important no?




The two are quite linked together. One does not preclude the other because experts are not cross-discipline. An expert in particle physics would be of little use in a genetic research laboratory.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22282789 - 09/24/15 09:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there



No.

No.

No.

Three good hits of DMT and you're incapable of seeing of even seeing your own planet, much less outer space.

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science is like church. Extremists bickering over possibilities making things up as they go along, changing what they already made up to make it sound logical and real.

I don't negate science.




No.

No.

No.

That is the kids who are smoking DMT in their bedrooms.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: morrowasted]
    #22282804 - 09/24/15 09:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
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Janky Tits said:
I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there



No.

No.

No.

Three good hits of DMT and you're incapable of seeing of even seeing your own planet, much less outer space.

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science is like church. Extremists bickering over possibilities making things up as they go along, changing what they already made up to make it sound logical and real.

I don't negate science.




No.

No.

No.

That is the kids who are smoking DMT in their bedrooms.



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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead]
    #22282822 - 09/24/15 09:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





I was actually thinking about this just the other day, not quite in the greatest
achievement, but in what single invention has advanced man more than any other


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22282880 - 09/24/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





I was actually thinking about this just the other day, not quite in the greatest
achievement, but in what single invention has advanced man more than any other




Antibiotics. Or, if you count it, germ theory of disease.


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #22282890 - 09/24/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The greatest achievement of man would be the day people learn to live together, and help one another.

So, our greatest achievement will never happen. Man blows..


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22282908 - 09/24/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man?





I was actually thinking about this just the other day, not quite in the greatest
achievement, but in what single invention has advanced man more than any other




Antibiotics. Or, if you count it, germ theory of disease.





antibiotics isnt responsible for civilizations advancement to what it is today


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22282952 - 09/24/15 09:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mankind's Greatest Achievement:



..or perhaps the creation of distractions?


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Re: Is exploring outer space the greatest achievement of man? [Re: morrowasted]
    #22282974 - 09/24/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Janky Tits said:
I can explore outer space too :shrug:

Three good hits of DMT or a slam of K and I'm there



No.

No.

No.

Three good hits of DMT and you're incapable of seeing of even seeing your own planet, much less outer space.

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science is like church. Extremists bickering over possibilities making things up as they go along, changing what they already made up to make it sound logical and real.

I don't negate science.




No.

No.

No.

That is the kids who are smoking DMT in their bedrooms.




:lol: Right.


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