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Workman
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Psilocybe hispanica 2
#2102193 - 11/13/03 02:45 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Outdoor cultivated Psilocybe hispanica. This species is relatively easy to grow on sterilized horse manure placed outside during cool fall weather (around 60F). A relatively newly described species from Spain. In Spain it grows directly on sheep dung in fields that also support fruitings of Psilocybe semilanceata
Very small specimens growing from a displaced piece of colonized horse dung. Rodents or birds dug into the patch and scattered small pieces of dung that later fruited. It is interesting to note the reduced size of the mushrooms when growing from very small amounts of substrate.
This is a larger specimen from the main patch. Still a relatively small mushroom. The odor is very similar to Psilocybe semilanceata and the appearance reminds me of Psilocybe mexicana
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#2102207 - 11/13/03 02:50 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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very interessting shrooms
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Paid]
#2102343 - 11/13/03 03:46 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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very nice Workman...
tell me something about the trip that our fellow Iberic gives to us...
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#2102367 - 11/13/03 03:51 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very interesting indeed !
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Workman
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Polecat]
#2106240 - 11/14/03 12:20 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no idea of the potency since I don't eat mushrooms.
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Anno
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#2107949 - 11/14/03 10:20 PM (20 years, 4 months ago) |
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Send them over here
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#2213478 - 01/01/04 03:54 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi Workman! What about sending some prints over to germany for further investigation???
Would be VERY kind... Greez Cap
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Erik006
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#2221154 - 01/05/04 05:14 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Looking good, what about the indoor cultivation of this species, has it been done, and can it be done?
Erik006
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Workman
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Erik006]
#2228167 - 01/08/04 12:04 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have observed primordia form on refrigerated agar so I do believe indoor cultivation is possible.
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#2228293 - 01/08/04 12:45 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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wanna pass around a spore print? ;-)
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Erik006
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Yarry]
#2228645 - 01/08/04 02:42 PM (20 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sponsor the works and buy one, thats what im gonna do after when I get my ps. cyans and tamps ordered.
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#24205371 - 03/30/17 01:13 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Could P. hispanica be conspecific with P. semilanceata?
The ITS sequences are just one base pair different, and it's just that one A turned into two A's near the beginning of the sequence, which is likely not even a real difference.
Perhaps they found P. semilanceata on horse dung and thought it was something new because of the unusual substrate. But horse dung is really just chewed up grass, so it's not that much of a leap - and P. semilanceata is found in the area.
The LSU sequences of the two species are identical.
I am having trouble finding the original species description, which was published in "Docums Mycol. 29(no. 116): 42 (2000)". Docums Mycol. is short for Les Documents Mycologiques.
Here's a photo of the holotype: http://mushroomobserver.org/241329
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Workman
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I need to revisit this species. It is similar to P. semilanceata but it is much more responsive to cultivation, for whatever that is worth.
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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Workman]
#24206168 - 03/30/17 06:12 PM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Perhaps a variety that has evolved to be more tolerant of different substrates. Whether it should be called a separate species is hard to say, I wonder what they would look like cultivated side by side.....and if there are any microscopic differences. I wonder if the difference in ITS sequences between P. hispanica and P. semilanceata would continue to be seen if more collections were sequenced.
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funkymonk22
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i grew p hispanica in monotubs in a cold room this winter..temps were about 50-60F. one of the easiest and most prolific species i have grown..
not sure about potency yet, havent had the time to try em
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Alan Rockefeller
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How was the potency? One person grew P. hispanica and said that nothing happened when the fruits were eaten.
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funkymonk22
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you know, ive got mixed feedback from trusted friends..one got a buzz off a couple grams but then another ate 5g and got nothing. I will be sure to report back as soon as i try them myself...im actually watching one of your mexico mushroom excursions on youtube right now Allen
so cool, youve got me very interested in zapotecorum..just gotta locate spores
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funkymonk22
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so just to add to the confusion, i had 3 friend split 5g of hispanica and all had a mild but definite experience..i will be trying them soon and will offer up my bioassay to the pursuit of science
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Lennybernadino
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Popcorn eating smiley, i hope that is helpful info
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funkymonk22
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couple hispanica shots from this morning..still fruiting away, they seem to love the PNW..i wonder if we can naturalize them here
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