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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
#22295741 - 09/26/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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California ranked 3rd from the top in highest GDP economies of the entire world (among countries), when I was a kid. America was the top, also.
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So they pay more fed taxes than Alaska? Wow!! something to be proud of!
yes, contributing to everybody's welfare(what a perfect word for this situation), rather than sponging off of supposed liberal california scumsuckers is something to be proud of i think.
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
#22295821 - 09/26/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So they pay more fed taxes than Alaska? Wow!! something to be proud of!
yes, contributing to everybody's welfare(what a perfect word for this situation), rather than sponging off of supposed liberal california scumsuckers is something to be proud of i think.
LOL do you give more to the IRS each year because you enjoy it? HAHAHAHAHAH
THE WELFARE STATES - 2008 is the most recent data compilation out there. http://ppinys.org/reports/jtf/2008/WelfareSpending2008.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310
1 New York - LIBERAL 2 Alaska - "The people in Alaska get money from the oil that belongs to them." 3 Rhode Island - LIBERAL 4 Vermont - LIBERAL 5 Massachusetts- LIBERAL 6 Maine - LIBERAL 7 New Mexico - LIBERAL 8 Minnesota - LIBERAL 9 Delaware - LIBERAL 10 California - LIBERAL
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So they pay more fed taxes than Alaska? Wow!! something to be proud of!
yes, contributing to everybody's welfare(what a perfect word for this situation), rather than sponging off of supposed liberal california scumsuckers is something to be proud of i think.
LOL do you give more to the IRS each year because you enjoy it? HAHAHAHAHAH
THE WELFARE STATES - 2008 is the most recent data compilation out there. http://ppinys.org/reports/jtf/2008/WelfareSpending2008.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310
1 New York - LIBERAL 2 Alaska - "The people in Alaska get money from the oil that belongs to them." 3 Rhode Island - LIBERAL 4 Vermont - LIBERAL 5 Massachusetts- LIBERAL 6 Maine - LIBERAL 7 New Mexico - LIBERAL 8 Minnesota - LIBERAL 9 Delaware - LIBERAL 10 California - LIBERAL
Sadly, that is not the case today. Despite a much-heralded recovery in the media and by Governor Jerry Brown, California still has one of the nation’s highest unemployment rates. Also, more than 30% of the nation’s welfare recipients are Californians – even though California has just 12% of the nation’s population. It is not surprising, therefore, that California is ranked number one in poverty. http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2014/08/19/calfiornias-economic-collision-course-immigration-and-water/
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all the same, californian's pay for your shitty state's existence. it makes it even funnier because you bring up shit like welfare, and pretend that this has anything to do with paying more taxes. let me explain why your welfare example is irrelevent. California contributes more to the fed not because the people are taxed at a higher rate per capita, but rather, because California takes less money in federal spending than the other tit sucking states. even if the welfare spending is higher per capita, the aggregate federal money is less. What else have you got?
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
#22295910 - 09/26/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: all the same, californian's pay for your shitty state's existence. it makes it even funnier because you bring up shit like welfare, and pretend that this has anything to do with paying more taxes. let me explain why your welfare example is irrelevent. California contributes more to the fed not because the people are taxed at a higher rate per capita, but rather, because California takes less money in federal spending than the other tit sucking states. even if the welfare spending is higher per capita, the aggregate federal money is less. What else have you got?
how does CA pay for other states' existence when it can't even pay for itself?

Sadly, that is not the case today. Despite a much-heralded recovery in the media and by Governor Jerry Brown, California still has one of the nation’s highest unemployment rates. Also, more than 30% of the nation’s welfare recipients are Californians – even though California has just 12% of the nation’s population. It is not surprising, therefore, that California is ranked number one in poverty. http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2014/08/19/calfiornias-economic-collision-course-immigration-and-water/
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You know Einstein advocated socialism right?
Looking at your sig.
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The cause for those bad statistics is bad government policy. California is the most regulated, highest-taxed, most in-debt state in America. According to government data, from the municipal to the state level, California governments have more than $1.1 trillion in debt – much of that tied to pensions. http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2014/08/19/calfiornias-economic-collision-course-immigration-and-water/
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http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/
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There are various ways of thinking about what Wallet Hub's "state dependency" map tells us. One approach is to shine light on the red-states-as takers paradox: Dominated by Republican voters who profess their distaste for the federal government and its social programs, these are the very states that rank highest on the dependency index. That, for example, is how Business Insider handled the story:
[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. . . .
As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
#22295987 - 09/26/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/
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There are various ways of thinking about what Wallet Hub's "state dependency" map tells us. One approach is to shine light on the red-states-as takers paradox: Dominated by Republican voters who profess their distaste for the federal government and its social programs, these are the very states that rank highest on the dependency index. That, for example, is how Business Insider handled the story:
[W]ho really benefits from government spending? If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, you might think it was those blue states, packed with damn hippie socialist liberals, sipping their lattes and providing free abortions for bored, horny teenagers. . . .
As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
LOL which red states? Tread lightly or be labeled a racist.
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
#22295997 - 09/26/15 09:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah. The biggest welfare queens I know vote Republican. The mental hoops they put themselves through I can hardly imagine.
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paperbackwriter said: Yeah. The biggest welfare queens I know vote Republican. The mental hoops they put themselves through I can hardly imagine.
Haha, welfare libs hang around other welfare recipients at the welfare office, that where you met your so called "Republican Voters?"
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No.
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So they pay more fed taxes than Alaska? Wow!! something to be proud of!
yes, contributing to everybody's welfare(what a perfect word for this situation), rather than sponging off of supposed liberal california scumsuckers is something to be proud of i think.
LOL do you give more to the IRS each year because you enjoy it? HAHAHAHAHAH
THE WELFARE STATES - 2008 is the most recent data compilation out there. http://ppinys.org/reports/jtf/2008/WelfareSpending2008.html
http://www.cnbc.com/id/31910310
1 New York - LIBERAL 2 Alaska - "The people in Alaska get money from the oil that belongs to them." 3 Rhode Island - LIBERAL 4 Vermont - LIBERAL 5 Massachusetts- LIBERAL 6 Maine - LIBERAL 7 New Mexico - LIBERAL 8 Minnesota - LIBERAL 9 Delaware - LIBERAL 10 California - LIBERAL
lol This is priceless. California and New York are the 'welfare states', hmm? Let's look at this from a per-capita standpoint, and also factor in contributions to the federal welfare system. As you will see, Liberal states put in far more than they receive, and conservative states suck their titties:
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As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Yes, that's right. Red States — the ones governed by folks who think government is too big and spending needs to be cut — are a net drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes. They talk a good game, but stick Blue States with the bill.
Take a look at the difference between federal spending on any given state and the federal taxes received from that state. We measure the difference as a dollar amount: Federal Spending per Dollar of Federal Taxes. A figure of $1.00 means that particular state received as much as it paid in to the federal government. Anything over a dollar means the state received more than it paid; anything less than $1.00 means the state paid more in taxes than it received in services. The higher the figure, the more a given state is a welfare queen.
Of the twenty worst states, 16 are either Republican dominated or conservative states. Let's go through the top twenty.
New Mexico: $2.03 Mississippi: $2.02 Alaska: $1.84 Louisiana: $1.78 West Virginia: $1.76 North Dakota: $1.68 Alabama: $1.66 South Dakota: $1.53 Kentucky: $1.51 Virginia: $1.51 Montana: $1.47 Hawaii: $1.44 Maine: $1.41 Arkansas: $1.41 Oklahoma: $1.36 South Carolina: $1.35 Missouri: $1.32 Maryland: $1.30 Tennessee: $1.27 Idaho: $1.21
Does anyone else notice the overwhelming presence of northern "rugged individualist" states, like Alaska, the Dakotas and Montana, along with most of the South? Why it's almost like there's a pattern here or something.
So, if they received $1.00 for every tax dollar put in, they would be breaking even. If they receive over $1.00, they're the 'leaches' (though I don't see it that way anyways).
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Where can we find liberal bastions California, New York, and Massachusetts? California is 43rd, getting back only $0.78 for every dollar it sends to Washington. New York is 42nd, and one penny better off, at $0.79 per dollar. Massachusetts is 40th, receiving $0.82 for every dollar it sends to DC.
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8
Again, how does your fuckin foot taste, kid?
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paperbackwriter said: Yeah. The biggest welfare queens I know vote Republican. The mental hoops they put themselves through I can hardly imagine.
It's called poor education.
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Again, how does your fuckin foot taste, kid?
Such hostility from you, kiddo. Do you know what the difference is between federal taxes paid by the state and state debt?
Sadly, that is not the case today. Despite a much-heralded recovery in the media and by Governor Jerry Brown, California still has one of the nation’s highest unemployment rates. Also, more than 30% of the nation’s welfare recipients are Californians – even though California has just 12% of the nation’s population. It is not surprising, therefore, that California is ranked number one in poverty. http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasdelbeccaro/2014/08/19/calfiornias-economic-collision-course-immigration-and-water/
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California's state debt:$583,627,395
California's state budget:167.6(billion)
California's GSP:2.28(trillion)
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: California's state debt:$583,627,395
California's state budget:167.6(billion)
California's GSP:2.28(trillion)
any questions?
Nice links there! LOL
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i told you i was done doing research for you. if you don't believe my numbers, look them up for yourself.
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
#22298200 - 09/27/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: i told you i was done doing research for you. if you don't believe my numbers, look them up for yourself.
Look it up? Lmao
He's not interested in facts. He's a partisan mouthpiece.
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