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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295384 - 09/26/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Another flame, go figure.


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22295397 - 09/26/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

DWP says it can't track millions in ratepayer money


DWP ratepayer funds flow to two groups run by agency managers and union leaders, with little accountability.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/19/local/la-me-dwp-nonprofits-20130918


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295406 - 09/26/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You can paste every link from your "dwp bad wrong" google search but that doesnt change the fact that your original claim is unsubstantiated.


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22295422 - 09/26/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
You can paste every link from your "dwp bad wrong" google search but that doesnt change the fact that your original claim is unsubstantiated.





So how much money do you get from the gov' each month?


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295429 - 09/26/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://en.openei.org/wiki/Utility_Grant_Program

http://www.governing.com/topics/finance/gov-companies-receiving-largest-federal-subsidies.html
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For the most part, it’s a relatively small number of larger corporate players that receive most federal dollars. Two-thirds of all grants and allocated tax credits over the time period reviewed were awarded to 582 firms. Twenty-one of the companies netted more than $500 million in federal grants and subsidies.

The same is true of state and local grants and tax expenditures, although the report noted that larger companies dominate federal subsidies to a somewhat lesser extent at the federal level.




http://energy.gov/public-services/funding-financing
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The Energy Department supports a number of grant, loan and financing programs. Learn more about these programs and how they can help you -- whether you are a startup energy business looking to launch a pilot project, a company with proven technology that needs help reaching commercial scale, or a state, local or tribal government looking for funding resources for energy projects.




if you hate subsidies so much, i guess we should shit-can all the private energy companies who get them too...and yet still can't offer the prices that LADWP can

Edit: i forgot one

http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/10/20/20334/25m-federal-grant-awarded-sce/
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ROSEMEAD — A $25 million Department of Energy grant was awarded to Southern California Edison to develop a lithium-ion battery bank for storing wind-generated electricity, the utility announced today




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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22295445 - 09/26/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
http://en.openei.org/wiki/Utility_Grant_Program

http://www.governing.com/topics/finance/gov-companies-receiving-largest-federal-subsidies.html
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For the most part, it’s a relatively small number of larger corporate players that receive most federal dollars. Two-thirds of all grants and allocated tax credits over the time period reviewed were awarded to 582 firms. Twenty-one of the companies netted more than $500 million in federal grants and subsidies.

The same is true of state and local grants and tax expenditures, although the report noted that larger companies dominate federal subsidies to a somewhat lesser extent at the federal level.




http://energy.gov/public-services/funding-financing
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The Energy Department supports a number of grant, loan and financing programs. Learn more about these programs and how they can help you -- whether you are a startup energy business looking to launch a pilot project, a company with proven technology that needs help reaching commercial scale, or a state, local or tribal government looking for funding resources for energy projects.




if you hate subsidies so much, i guess we should shit-can all the private energy companies who get them too...and yet still can't offer the prices that LADWP can





Yeah what were the prices again? So where are your links that private electric companies get subsidies as large as LADWP has?


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295467 - 09/26/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
You can paste every link from your "dwp bad wrong" google search but that doesnt change the fact that your original claim is unsubstantiated.





So how much money do you get from the gov' each month?




Some negative integer.



see how easy it is to answer direct questions?


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #22295481 - 09/26/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
You can paste every link from your "dwp bad wrong" google search but that doesnt change the fact that your original claim is unsubstantiated.





So how much money do you get from the gov' each month?




Some negative integer.



see how easy it is to answer direct questions?




hehe, no change huh? Why do you worship the gov' even though you say you pay them?


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295492 - 09/26/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

check the edit. also, i think i have done enough research for you.  you can take it from here if you are willing to learn something contradictory to your world view.  Or ignore everything i have said.  its up to you.


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22295511 - 09/26/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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check the edit. also, i think i have done enough research for you.  you can take it from here if you are willing to learn something contradictory to your world view.  Or ignore everything i have said.  its up to you.




Well you haven't done much research, because according to your research:

"Twenty-one of the companies netted more than $500 million in federal grants and subsidies."-ballsalsa

so 21 companies get to split $500 million, but LA DWP gets $200 million, seems fair doesn't it? I have to pay for some scumsuckers in CA, and I don't even live in CA.



The LADWP seeks $200 million in stimulus funds for a smart grid project, according to city documents. While details have yet to emerge, the city has said it likes public cellular networks for smart grid.
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/las-utility-seeks-200m-smart-grid-stimulus-grant


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295531 - 09/26/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

like i said, its up to you :whatyougonnado:


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295537 - 09/26/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
You can paste every link from your "dwp bad wrong" google search but that doesnt change the fact that your original claim is unsubstantiated.





So how much money do you get from the gov' each month?




Some negative integer.



see how easy it is to answer direct questions?




hehe, no change huh? Why do you worship the gov' even though you say you pay them?




I dont.


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295550 - 09/26/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Only takes seconds to google, libs.

LA’s Utility Seeks $200M Smart Grid Stimulus Grant



The LADWP seeks $200 million in stimulus funds for a smart grid project, according to city documents. While details have yet to emerge, the city has said it likes public cellular networks for smart grid.
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/las-utility-seeks-200m-smart-grid-stimulus-grant




I suppose they're the only electrical utility to receive government subsidization! lmao

Look up GE+subsidies.


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22295565 - 09/26/15 07:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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like i said, its up to you :whatyougonnado:




Yeah this kinda shows your full of it:

"Twenty-one of the companies netted more than $500 million in federal grants and subsidies."-ballsalsa

so 21 companies get to split $500 million, but LA DWP gets $200 million, seems fair doesn't it? I have to pay for some scumsuckers in CA, and I don't even live in CA.



The LADWP seeks $200 million in stimulus funds for a smart grid project, according to city documents. While details have yet to emerge, the city has said it likes public cellular networks for smart grid.
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/las-utility-seeks-200m-smart-grid-stimulus-grant


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22295581 - 09/26/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bigbadwooof said:
Quote:

burgerbrain said:
Only takes seconds to google, libs.

LA’s Utility Seeks $200M Smart Grid Stimulus Grant



The LADWP seeks $200 million in stimulus funds for a smart grid project, according to city documents. While details have yet to emerge, the city has said it likes public cellular networks for smart grid.
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/las-utility-seeks-200m-smart-grid-stimulus-grant




I suppose they're the only electrical utility to receive government subsidization! lmao

Look up GE+subsidies.




GE is so profitable they have a negative tax rate.


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295603 - 09/26/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

where do you live? one of the numerous non-contributing deadweight states?  If you don't say New York, California, Texas, or Florida, your opinions about whether you should have to pay for scumsuckers in california are invalid, because its the scumsuckers in those four states that pay for everything in your backwards state.  Yeah, thats right, almost every state in this country sucks on the Federal tit more than they contribute.  California scumsuckers are one of the few that receives fewer federal dollars than it contributes, so why don't you go ahead and stick THAT up your ass?


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22295642 - 09/26/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

go ahead and take your time to look it up.

i'm gonna laugh so hard if youre posting from alaska


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22295662 - 09/26/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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go ahead and take your time to look it up.

i'm gonna laugh so hard if youre posting from alaska




So they pay more fed taxes than Alaska? Wow!! something to be proud of! LOL-High taxes are greeeeeeat!

CA is fucked, check out it's debt:


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295713 - 09/26/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah thats why everyone is fleeing NY and California for places like Mississippi.


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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22295732 - 09/26/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

check out the size of it's economy



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