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Both parties help their campaign donors. Which is why we need to get money out of politics, not stop helping the poor and middle class.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Oh my lord you're dumb. That $20 trillion didn't go to the poor.

Yes but why did democrats so much? Is it because they decided to enrich themselves instead of helping the poor?
And that sir, is why we need smaller govt, not bigger
Not exactly. We need better government, and smaller military, and this isn't such a simple subject as a simpleton would make it out to be. However, Obama was nothing more than George W. Bush 2. He continued every shitty hairbrained Republican asshole policy Bush started, and expanded upon them.
It is Republican horse shit warmonger money wasting ideology that has prevented American from moving one inch forward for 30 fucking years. We need a new New Deal, plain and simple.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Both parties help their campaign donors. Which is why we need to get money out of politics, not stop helping the poor and middle class.
so you think that campaign donations are the problem
what about the career politicians, shouldnt they have some culpability
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
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Oh wow... I just realized why you gave all of the Liberals on the political forum warnings for nothing, and haven't banned Burgerbrain yet! lmao
Anyway... Bernie doesn't have any donors except for normal everyday citizens. That means he's owned by American citizens, not big financial interests.
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Bigbadwooof said: Oh wow... I just realized why you gave all of the Liberals on the political forum warnings for nothing, and haven't banned Burgerbrain yet! lmao
I tried to tell you he was biased. I nearly got banned reporting burgerbrain calling people children and retarded yet you get a warning for calling someone dumb.

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Anyway... Bernie doesn't have any donors except for normal everyday citizens. That means he's owned by American citizens, not big financial interests.
His point was about career politicians.
My feeling is that we're pretty much beyond fucked. Between Global Warming, Corporatism, and Globalization.
I don't want a blowhard like Trump. I want someone with experience. Someone that's seen some shit and been around the block a few times. Someone that wants to leave the world in better shape for this grandkids. Someone not worth over a million dollars, let alone ten or a billion. In other words someone that can actually relate to the working class.
Career politician or not is there anyone else running that's actually participated in strikes with the working class?
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No. There's only one Bernie Sanders. He's spent his career giving one on one face time to his constituents, and taking care of their needs.
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Bigbadwooof said: No. There's only one Bernie Sanders. He's spent his career giving one on one face time to his constituents, and taking care of their needs.
And that's the biggest problem with BS, he has spent 40 years in politics and has accomplished next to nothing, you really want an ineffectual leader?
If Bernie is the answer, I'd hate to hear the question
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hostileuniverse said: And that's the biggest problem with BS, he has spent 40 years in politics and has accomplished next to nothing, you really want an ineffectual leader?
Show us that he's accomplished next to nothing.
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Sure, here's a list of his accomplishments...
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Okay, so you're just making shit up?
Here's one just to show that you're putting your foot in your mouth. If you want to keep at it I got time.
Senate Passes Veterans Health Care Bill
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-passes-veterans-health-care-bill
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paperbackwriter said: Okay, so you're just making shit up?
Here's one just to show that you're putting your foot in your mouth. If you want to keep at it I got time.
Senate Passes Veterans Health Care Bill
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/senate-passes-veterans-health-care-bill
Well kudos to Jeff Miller for giving the little guy some credibility, lol
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Bigbadwooof said: No. There's only one Bernie Sanders. He's spent his career giving one on one face time to his constituents, and taking care of their needs.
And that's the biggest problem with BS, he has spent 40 years in politics and has accomplished next to nothing, you really want an ineffectual leader?
If Bernie is the answer, I'd hate to hear the question
That's a lie that you've already posted and has already been plainly refuted. You're so fucking full of shit. Look man, if you can't be intellectually honest then nobody had time to waste on you.
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Bigbadwooof said:Holy fuckin BURN! lmao!!!
Keep talkin Bennylava... you're one entertaining motherfucker! Ballsalsa, resident fact checker, will straighten your ass out every god damn time.
You guys didn't know the peasants were starving... lol. Just lol. Yeah, you would think that was a burn, wouldn't you? You people ARE that stupid. For the longest time I was trying to somehow, some way, give you the benefit of the doubt. But you really are lol.
Where in the hell do you think the phrase "let them eat cake" came from? I bet you've never even heard of it. God you people are ignorant. Wait wait, don't tell me. None of you actually graduated, did you? This is history lesson 101 in junior year. Seriously? The french revolution? "Ideas" caused it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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paperbackwriter said: The term left wing comes from France too. It was those that sat to the left of the monarch. The right wing supported the monarch, the left the revolution.
Liberalism, classically, heavily influenced the founding Fathers. One of the primary tenants of classical liberalism was egalitarianis, i.e. all men are created equal.
The parallels between America's right and middle (modern Democrats) and maintaining the status quo with corporate oligarch control is pretty obvious.
But... Libtards!!!
You're leaving out completely, how good ideas can, and often do, go bad. A few full blown retards get ahold of it and wam bam, you've got a terrible idea that only those full blown retards would ever want.
See "I am not a marxist" by Karl Marx, for reference.
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: bennylava]
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Dude... nobody argued that the peasants weren't poverty struck peasants... can you follow at all? Lol
The argument you made was that they weren't guided by any ideology. Balls has shown that they were quite informed and philosophically literate.
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there were plenty of ignorant starving poor taking part in the french revolution, they just weren't organizing it, or funding it.
Edit: just for shits and giggles
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/let-them-eat-cake.html
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Let Them Eat Cake
Origin
The origins of many English phrases are unknown. Nevertheless, many people would say that they know the source of this one. It is widely attributed to Marie-Antoinette (1755-93), the Queen consort of Louis XVI. She is supposed to have said this when she was told that the French populace had no bread to eat.
The original French is 'Qu'ils mangent de la brioche', that is, 'Let them eat brioche' (brioche is a form of cake made of flour, butter and eggs). The usual interpretation of the phrase is that Marie-Antoinette understood little about the plight of the poor and cared even less. There are two problems with that interpretation:
1. There's no evidence of any kind that Marie-Antoinette ever uttered those words or anything like them, and 2. The phrase, in as much as it can be shown to be associated with the French nobility, can be interpreted in other ways, for example, it could have either ironic or even a genuine attempt to offer cake to the poor as an alternative to the bread that they couldn't afford.
As to the origin of the expression, two notable contemporaries of Marie-Antoinette - Louis XVIII and Jean-Jacques Rousseau, attribute the phrase to a source other than her. In Louis XVIII's memoir Relation d'un voyage a Bruxelles et d Coblentz, 1791, he states that the phrase 'Que ne mangent-ils de la croûte de pâté?' (Why don't they eat pastry?) was used by Marie-Thérèse (1638-83), the wife of Louis XIV. That account was published almost a century after Marie-Thérèse's death though, so it must be treated with some caution.
Jean-Jacques Rousseau's 12-volume autobiographical work Confessions, was written in 1770. In Book 6, which was written around 1767, he recalls:
At length I recollected the thoughtless saying of a great princess, who, on being informed that the country people had no bread, replied, "Then let them eat pastry!"
Marie-Antoinette arrived at Versailles from her native Austria in 1770, two or three years after Rousseau had written the above passage. Whoever the 'great princess' was - possibly Marie-Thérèse, it wasn't Marie-Antoinette.
Her reputation as an indulgent socialite is difficult to shake, but it appears to be unwarranted and is a reminder that history is written by the victors. She was known to have said "It is quite certain that in seeing the people who treat us so well despite their own misfortune, we are more obliged than ever to work hard for their happiness". Nevertheless, the French revolutionaries thought even less of her than we do today and she was guillotined to death in 1793 for the crime of treason.
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No more history lessons Benny? Maybe Marie-Antoinette sent you a letter with information the rest of us aren't privy to?
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: No more history lessons Benny? Maybe Marie-Antoinette sent you a letter with information the rest of us aren't privy to?
Lmao!!!
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#nevergonnaletitgo
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Re: Capitalism at work [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said: #nevergonnaletitgo

#nevergonnaletitgoeither
I always get HU, Benny, and Burgerbrain mixed up though >.<
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