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#22279072 - 09/23/15 03:20 PM (5 years, 5 months ago) |
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Today, I went to check out my C. smithii habitats, but didn't find any. On my way back I was close to a cow pasture where I knew I could probably find some liberty caps, so I decided to have a look. The farm owner cut down some pines a couple of years back to make the pasture bigger, a lot of twigs (hard, not decomposed wood) has been left where I walked toward the older more grassy areas. But there was some P. acuminatus and P. papilionaceus growing there, and some Mycena, and suddenly I noticed something else that made my day! Since there aren't many photos around to compare with, I'm not 100% but based on Mikaels photos from Finland it feels like I have found some Psilocybe medullosa! 
Habitat: Growing from spruce wood in a cow pasture located in Västergötland, Sweden
Cap: Very sticky. Breaks of from the stipe very easy. Could perhaps have a pellicle, but breaks before it gets expanded enough to analyze more closely.
Stipe: White, some have fibrils. No bluing noticed.
Smell: EXACTLY like liberty caps. And strong! This is so weird but at the same time makes some sense, perhaps more Psilocybes smell the same, all dough P. cubensis are not even close.
                 
Together with a cousin. It would have been even better if the libery cap where just as wet and showed some striation.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
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That looks a lot like the habitat that I find pelliculosa in.
Awesome pictures man! Awesome find!
Do those mushrooms have a separable pellicle?
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Some of those specimens look very similar to P. pelliculosa, as was pointed out. Some don't.
K, you should take photos of spore prints and do microscopy on this collection. It's worth it.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: The Lightning]
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Thanks!
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Do those mushrooms have a separable pellicle?
Can't tell for sure. I actually mentioned that:
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Could perhaps have a pellicle, but breaks before it gets expanded enough to analyze more closely.
The stickiness suggest some kind of layer similar to libs, but no, not really the same. Chunks of the caps breaks free very easy.
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K, you should take photos of spore prints and do microscopy on this collection. It's worth it.
Spore prints are in the making.  Not HQ spore prints made for growing but I need to see check the color.
The caps are hygrophanous, shows clearly after drying them a couple of hours:
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
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Spore prints are in the making.
I can't wait to see those. This is exciting. Hope the prints are fat enough to tell. Weak prints from brown-spored mushrooms can
be really hard to tell apart. Please leave them printing for a while. I can't think of any other contenders than Galerina, but as said
if the print is sufficient it should be no problem distinguishing. And of course, you know who to send these to for microscopy.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Anglerfish]
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Very cool. Are p. medullosa active?
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They are the European version of Psilocybe silvatica.
So PNW'ers take note, look for these mushrooms.
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Aw dude, this is fuckin hot!
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: xthrx]
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Hope the prints are fat enough to tell. Weak prints from brown-spored mushrooms can
be really hard to tell apart.
They were weak, but dark brown.
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And of course, you know who to send these to for microscopy.
Do you want a sample? or do you mean Jan Borovicka?
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Are p. medullosa active?
According to this study, yes. But I don't know the potency.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4510267/
I'm going out to find some more now 
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
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Hey hey nice findings kk 
About the activity, I took once one gram these with in tea, but I was really really drunk..I would say that I did not noticed anything.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Mikael]
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Thanks Mikael! You know, If you haven't found them before and showed us your photos, I would just have looked at these mushrooms for a second and then moved on thinking it was nothing interesting.
Alcohol is not a good combination drug when it comes to evaluating other drugs, you kind of spoiled this rare opportunity... But a single gram would probably been a low dose anyway. I suspected that they weren't very active, since I have seen no bluing, but on the other hand, only one in a hundred or so liberty caps get blue due to the minimal amount of psilocin. Could be the same thing here, more psilocybin than psilocin. Good to hear that you didn't notice any poisonous effects anyway. Unknown mushrooms are always a risk.
So.. I went out to find some more and just came home with this. I found them just a few meters away from the spot I found yesterday:
   
I also walked a few km to some big clearings in the forest with lots of Spruce twigs/chips but found nothing else but this (well except Mycena etc.) , to show beginners that there is a lot of look-a-likes out there. This is a Hypholoma species I believe.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
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One of the things that can be done to assist in the bluing process, is to place them in a tupperware container with a lid that has pre-drilled holes in it (or saran wrap/aluminum foil with holes). By sitting in the fridge for a few hours, bluing may become evident.
Also, examine the stipe bases for tiny, bluing primordia.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: The Lightning]
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Many species of mushrooms containing psilocybin also contain lesser amounts of the analog compounds baeocystin and norbaeocystin, chemicals thought to be biogenic precursors. Although most species of psilocybin-containing mushrooms bruise blue when handled or damaged due to the oxidization of phenolic compounds, this reaction is not a definitive method of identification or determining a mushroom's potency.
Not all active mushrooms bruise blue. He did mention that the mushrooms smelled farinaceous like P. semilanceata
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
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Thanks Mikael! You know, If you haven't found them before and showed us your photos, I would just have looked at these mushrooms for a second and then moved on thinking it was nothing interesting.
Alcohol is not a good combination drug when it comes to evaluating other drugs, you kind of spoiled this rare opportunity... But a single gram would probably been a low dose anyway. I suspected that they weren't very active, since I have seen no bluing, but on the other hand, only one in a hundred or so liberty caps get blue due to the minimal amount of psilocin. Could be the same thing here, more psilocybin than psilocin. Good to hear that you didn't notice any poisonous effects anyway. Unknown mushrooms are always a risk.
So.. I went out to find some more and just came home with this. I found them just a few meters away from the spot I found yesterday:
I also walked a few km to some big clearings in the forest with lots of Spruce twigs/chips but found nothing else but this (well except Mycena etc.) , to show beginners that there is a lot of look-a-likes out there. This is a Hypholoma species I believe.
Yeah I have been keen to find P. silvatica/medullosa for years and it was on species that was on my wanted list. So when I was in mycology school a few years ago I was able to find them.
Well I rarely take mushrooms if Im not drunk, I mean beer and semis are my favorite combo  but I know that many might think different.
And yeah really nice pics as well, keep em coming. It seems that my spot dont fruit anymore..
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a single gram would probably been a low dose anyway.
Apparently they are very weak so I guess one would probably need at least 3-4 times as much as with P. semilanceata.
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I suspected that they weren't very active, since I have seen no bluing, but on the other hand, only one in a hundred or so liberty caps get blue due to the minimal amount of psilocin.
I find a surprisingly high amount of bluing liberty caps in my spots. Quite often there is quite strong bluing on all parts of
the stem, and blue spots on some caps as well. I find this mainly in larger specimens.
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So.. I went out to find some more and just came home with this. I found them just a few meters away from the spot I found yesterday:
They are beauties! But you really need to detect that pellicle, that is obviously mega essential in this case.
If it is hard to observe when you split the cap edge, try separating it with a pen knife, razor or perhaps a needle.
Guzman writes of P. silvatica "pellicle separable and tenacious", but I'm not sure if this applies to P. medullosa.
Did you perchance observe any alder or were there only conifer trees nearby?
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But you really need to detect that pellicle
Yeah, I will try the next time I have fresh mushrooms.
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Did you perchance observe any alder or were there only conifer trees nearby?
They grew from mainly Picea abies I believe, perhaps a Pinus sylvestris or two could be present, but I don't think so. I have to check more carefully next time. There are some alder about hundred meters away, but I don't think it was present among the trees that were cut down.
Heres the best sporeprint. Very weak, but good enough to see the color. The white paper have good balanced whiteness on the photo, so I think we can trust the color pretty well.
 
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Great! Nice photos!
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I was hoping for a new flush but the last few days have been dry, so lots of the mushrooms were dried, making them next to impossible to spot if I hadn't known their exact location. Most fresh mushrooms were found in the shadow from larger pieces of wood.
     
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You should consider a donation to your local herbarium specially if this mushrooms is rarely(never) collected in your area. Beautiful pictures!
Can you tell what kind of wood they are growing on? Looks like a conifer to me.
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You should consider a donation to your local herbarium specially if this mushrooms is rarely(never) collected in your area. Beautiful pictures!
I will investigate that. Thanks.
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Can you tell what kind of wood they are growing on?
I looked more carefully today and can with very little doubt say that the trees used to be Picea abies, just like the ones in the background outside the recently created pasture.
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I linked Jan Borovicka to this thread, and he confirms that both knarkkorven and ST1R have Psilocybe medullosa. He thinks this species is more common than previously realized, and now that awareness is spreading there will be even more finds. He has offered to do accurate GC/MS based potency testing on these collections (and any other Psilocybe collections anywhere in the world also, BTW).
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That's great! I would love to have the potency analyzed!
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That's great! I would love to have the potency analyzed!
No problem!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22345076
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At first I thought I found some more at a new spot. But the stipes are more brown/dark, some have a annular zone, and not the distinct smell I mentioned earlier.
So, what is this? A Galerina?
     
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Looks like a Galerina to me.
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So, what is this? A Galerina?
Kuehneromyces mutabilis. Edible.
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I can't find any photos with striation showing on Kuehneromyces mutabilis caps. How sure are you?
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I am not very sure, you are right - K. mutabilis isn't all that striate. I was looking at the spore color on the annulus, which looks darker than the rusty spores of Galerina and also at the way the caps change color as they dry out. It would be interesting to see if the spores are smooth with a germ pore or roughened without one.
A spore print in good lighting would also be cool to see.
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I linked Jan Borovicka to this thread, and he confirms that both knarkkorven and ST1R have Psilocybe medullosa. He thinks this species is more common than previously realized, and now that awareness is spreading there will be even more finds. He has offered to do accurate GC/MS based potency testing on these collections (and any other Psilocybe collections anywhere in the world also, BTW).
I'm very interested about potency. What i have to do?
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This is interesting, there are huge areas of felled conifer forests near me just like the habitat you found those in, I may have a look there soon. Are they known to grow in the UK?
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Neat find! Just found a thread from 10 months ago, some guy found some in Europe in a very similar habitat.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20988490/fpart/all/vc/1
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I went back to the habitat a couple of days ago but found no new medullosas. Only the Galerina/Kuehneromyces/whatever species.. some in the same spots that previously had medullosas.
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I went back to the habitat a couple of days ago but found no new medullosas. Only the Galerina/Kuehneromyces/whatever species.. some in the same spots that previously had medullosas.
Saturday, i visited my habitat place. unfortunately, did not find any. I think them season is ~ july, august and september.
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I went back to the habitat a couple of days ago but found no new medullosas. Only the Galerina/Kuehneromyces/whatever species.. some in the same spots that previously had medullosas.
Saturday, i visited my habitat place. unfortunately, did not find any. I think them season is ~ july, august and september.
I went to my spot on Monday and found about 10 P. medullosas, not much but some.
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I found about 100 today
I only had the mobile phone camera available (except the last two) unfortunately, but I think I got some good photos anyway.
Today, I came to the conclusion that smelling the mushrooms are best for identification. The smell is even stronger than liberty caps, but the same odor.
I have sent samples to Jan Borovicka now. It's will be very nice to know if this really is P. medullosa. I still have some doubts (P. pelliculosa or some Deconica is IMO still possible after reviewing a lot of photos).
     
With some liberty caps:
I think the ones on the right are some other species
Same with the one on the right here... probably the same species I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, no smell:
A nice collection. The last two shows the difference before/after drying 5 hours:
  
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At first I thought I found some more at a new spot. But the stipes are more brown/dark, some have a annular zone, and not the distinct smell I mentioned earlier.
So, what is this? A Galerina?
I think I identified this species now. Galerina stylifera.
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Galerina ID's to species usually require microscopy.
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Knarkkorven, how's the weather in Sweden? Your photos made me think that I should still check my spot.
Estonia weather is +10c day and 0 or below at night.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
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Between +6 and +10. And we finally got some rain, October was very dry in Scandinavia (and I guess you had the same in Estonia?). The Stockholm region had the lowest recorded rain fall since the measurements started in 1786.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22484058 - 11/06/15 01:11 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, same here.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#22489489 - 11/07/15 09:00 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Some P. medullosa from today:
    
Here is a comparison with the Galeria (bottom row). The similarity is scary:
It was really wet today and I managed to get a photo of the very faint pellicle, it breaks after just a couple of milimeters, not like the libery caps that can be stretched more:
Todays harvest:
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22489676 - 11/07/15 10:00 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Holy f$k those look near identical to the galerina.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: rhizoRider]
#22489793 - 11/07/15 10:27 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Holy f$k those look near identical to the galerina.
certainly scary AF 
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: daz01]
#22838013 - 01/29/16 11:42 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jan Borovicka has confirmed the ID!
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I can confirm P. medullosa was correctly identifed
Now, I'm waiting for the potency results
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22840056 - 01/29/16 09:38 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good work and great find. They look tricky. Mature specimens look easier to ID as a Psilocybe species with the darker gills.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22840674 - 01/30/16 12:15 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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knarkkorven said:
Jan Borovicka has confirmed the ID!
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I can confirm P. medullosa was correctly identifed
Now, I'm waiting for the potency results
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knarkkorven said:
Jan Borovicka has confirmed the ID!
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I can confirm P. medullosa was correctly identifed
Now, I'm waiting for the potency results
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22841120 - 01/30/16 05:11 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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knarkkorven said:
Jan Borovicka has confirmed the ID!
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I can confirm P. medullosa was correctly identifed
Now, I'm waiting for the potency results
Good news!
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22841144 - 01/30/16 05:43 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Jan Borovicka has confirmed the ID!
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I can confirm P. medullosa was correctly identifed
Now, I'm waiting for the potency results
Nice one!
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 Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22842564 - 01/30/16 03:07 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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knarkkorven said:
Jan Borovicka has confirmed the ID!
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I can confirm P. medullosa was correctly identifed
Now, I'm waiting for the potency results
Very cool knarkkorven. Love your photos.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: saralove]
#22842675 - 01/30/16 03:31 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome finds 
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Blazer420]
#22842782 - 01/30/16 03:57 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks.
Here's a few previously unpublished photos for you
     
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22842830 - 01/30/16 04:09 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd like to find those. They come up thick in a small area. Photo 2 with the three mushrooms reminds me of darker specimens of P.alutacea I'm finding. Any news about potency scientific or otherwise?
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Heyowana]
#22842913 - 01/30/16 04:25 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd like to find those.
Me too. I'm hardly likely to find them in my region though.They seem to better like the eastern inland parts of my country.
But - optimistic as ever, the hunt goes on... and KK's find is extremely inspiring.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Anglerfish]
#22845295 - 01/31/16 04:35 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any news about potency scientific or otherwise?
ST1R from Estonia who posted some photos in this thread told me in a PM that:
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my friend ate 10g of p.medullosas. He said that the trip was weak. I think 20g of P.medulossas equals 2g of p.semilanceata.
...which is pretty weak, just as we speculated in this thread. But we will know for sure when the potency study is completed.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#22845437 - 01/31/16 06:41 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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cool. Thanks for update.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#23115994 - 04/14/16 06:45 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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...which is pretty weak, just as we speculated in this thread. But we will know for sure when the potency study is completed.
Some news about potency???
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#23116845 - 04/14/16 01:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, nothing yet.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#23522069 - 08/08/16 02:55 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Saturday I'm going to check my spot.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#23523870 - 08/09/16 02:39 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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I checked mine last week, and didn't find any. I'm also spending some time searching forest clearings of the same age that aren't completely covered with grass.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#23524018 - 08/09/16 06:20 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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This one I'd like to find. There's atleast one confirmed observation of these mushrooms from Finland, so got to keep my eyes open. I have one Psilocybe semilanceata habitat looking like the one in the original post I'm going to visit this fall.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: velho]
#23638574 - 09/12/16 03:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi folks. Today I was checking my spot. And what I see, P.Medullosas popped up at the same spot
Sorry about crappy pictures.
   
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#23638661 - 09/12/16 03:39 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: NothingsChanged]
#23638859 - 09/12/16 04:46 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice! I have checked mine a couple of times more without finding any yet, but I think the season is delayed a bit this year.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#23640640 - 09/13/16 06:17 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just noticed this mighty fine thread. Mighty impressive! 
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Joie]
#23640652 - 09/13/16 06:26 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oooo La Laaaaa Beautiful specimens right thurrrr 
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Blazer420]
#23641028 - 09/13/16 10:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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daz01 said:
Quote:
rhizoRider said:
Holy f$k those look near identical to the galerina.
certainly scary AF
In case you missed this part. They apparently smell like libs.
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knarkkorven said:
Smell: EXACTLY like liberty caps...
And strong! This is so weird but at the same time makes some sense, perhaps more Psilocybes smell the same, all dough P. cubensis are not even close.
Weird... but good to know, especialy with the amount you'd need to consume for a dose.
Not that I'm likely to find them.
Would be super handy if all Psilocybes smelled the same...
but I don't recall p.cyans having the same smell as libs either.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#24323878 - 05/16/17 11:32 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You really should gather some spore prints and send them to some reputable vendors for testing \ selling. Or sell them privately and that person can test them hint hint lol would love to see medullosa research spores available here in the States! Great find.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Mymush22]
#24354360 - 05/27/17 04:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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You really should gather some spore prints and send them to some reputable vendors for testing \ selling. Or sell them privately and that person can test them hint hint lol would love to see medullosa research spores available here in the States! Great find.
This year i'm going to share some prints
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R] 2
#24656016 - 09/24/17 01:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This year i foud new habitat place. Seems like they grow everywher in Estonia.
     
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#24658931 - 09/25/17 02:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice photos. My habitat is now overgrown with grass.
Please tell us if you make new bio-assays. Would be interesting to hear more about dosage/effects, since your friend ate 10g and said it was weak.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#24660469 - 09/26/17 01:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice photos. My habitat is now overgrown with grass.
Please tell us if you make new bio-assays. Would be interesting to hear more about dosage/effects, since your friend ate 10g and said it was weak.
this time i'm trying to extract by this tutorial.
https://youtu.be/H00mmYD8ZtQ
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven] 1
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Any news about potency scientific or otherwise?
ST1R from Estonia who posted some photos in this thread told me in a PM that:
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my friend ate 10g of p.medullosas. He said that the trip was weak. I think 20g of P.medulossas equals 2g of p.semilanceata.
...which is pretty weak, just as we speculated in this thread. But we will know for sure when the potency study is completed.
Hi all. I’m going to test 15g medullosa tea at saturday (few slices lemon, ginger and 2 tea bag). Stay tuned!
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
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ST1R said:
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knarkkorven said:
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Any news about potency scientific or otherwise?
ST1R from Estonia who posted some photos in this thread told me in a PM that:
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my friend ate 10g of p.medullosas. He said that the trip was weak. I think 20g of P.medulossas equals 2g of p.semilanceata.
...which is pretty weak, just as we speculated in this thread. But we will know for sure when the potency study is completed.
Hi all. I’m going to test 15g medullosa tea at saturday (few slices lemon, ginger and 2 tea bag). Stay tuned!
If you don't like the taste of the tea, use hot chocolate or koolaid, low boil your mushrooms for 20min then strain the liquid, add the hot chocolate or koolaid (if using koolaid, chill with ice before serving) and enjoy. Psilocybin and psilocin are water soluble so boiling is the best way to get the goodies out of the mushrooms. I use 10ounces of water per person, I do add lemon juice to the water when boiling the mushrooms, it breaks down the cellular walls releasing more active indoles. The more you break up the mushrooms, the more you will get out of them. I grind my dried mushrooms into a powder and put into a coffee filter tied closed (made into a tea bag), this has increased the potency I get of my mushrooms considerably compared to leaving them whole.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: Doc9151]
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thank you for a nice advice!
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#25918739 - 04/06/19 02:50 AM (1 year, 10 months ago) |
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ST1R: So, any updates? did you do it?
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
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ST1R: So, any updates? did you do it?
have not test them yet. i injure my back and stayed in bed 2 weeks, now everything ok and i test them soon.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
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ST1R: So, any updates? did you do it?
have not test them yet. i injure my back and stayed in bed 2 weeks, now everything ok and i test them soon.
Well as my English is not so good, then i make it short. me and my friend consumed as a tea 15g p.medullosa + 5g p.cinctulus (+few slices lemon and ginger). trip was smooth, things start moving and everythig was so funny etc. i would say that save these shrooms.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#26137179 - 08/15/19 02:58 PM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the update. To bad you ruined (in my opinion) the evaluation by combining the medullosa with another species. I would really like to know what a 15g dose would do by itself, since we don't have any good potency studies or estimations yet.
Could you anyway perhaps estimate something here? When I eat 5g dry P. cinctulus I get the effects you describe "smooth, things start moving and everything is funny" so... Could the 5g P. cinctulus be equivalent with 15g medullosa perhaps if you shared this combined amount between you two? or is your old estimation (see my quote earlier in this thread) more correct?
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: knarkkorven]
#26141159 - 08/18/19 11:13 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry about combining those. We took together that amount.
2.5g cinctulus and 7.5g medullosa per person.
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Re: I think I found some Psilocybe medullosa!! [Re: ST1R]
#26239301 - 10/09/19 02:37 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Reviving this thread - unless anyone has an objection. Any further finds of these this year? Any solid info back on potency? Just curious because I have found quite a few in Estonia, in cleared forest habitats. Before coming across this thread I had no idea what they were, bit had remarked that some of the traits seemed to be rather similar to other psilocybe, including them smelling like strong libs as well as a slight removable pellicle. Just curious, would like to add them to my collection. Cheers!
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