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Creepiness and Shroom
    #22279033 - 09/23/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:hi: if youre trippin this is probably bad vibes.. might wanna change thread :lol:

hey guys, saw this vid of Vsauce on youtube about creepiness and realise , creepiness is a player in the psychedelic experience. I feel that high dose of shrooms is really complex and the whole psychedelic experience is ,but it seems that there is this creepy side down in the rabbit hole and also a creepy tint to some of the experience in general. sure the more you pratice the better you become and feel at ease down there . but still there is this side of the psychedelic experience i want to talk about

ive had my fair share of creepy moments on solo shroom trip :aweoverdose:,  bad tripped, panic attack once .but comming back i was asking my self how can psychedelic be scary when there is nothing really scary about it?, like i myself never hallucinated something scary like a psycho killer or somehting. but I definitly felt the terror.

between safety and danger there is a huge gap of creepiness.. interesting ?watch this only 8 mins ,i feel like i can relate alot this side of the psychedelic experience with this vid


Thanks for reading ,Discuss on what you think , also did you like the vid?:yesnod:


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22279077 - 09/23/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting watch


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Faustoid]
    #22279250 - 09/23/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Glad you like it:thumbup:

im sure there is a direct link with shrooms creeps and the learning process you can make from shroom.


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22288191 - 09/25/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Glad you like it:thumbup:

im sure there is a direct link with shrooms creeps and the learning process you can make from shroom.




LIfe is full of creepyness. When you are dying you will be creeped out. If your wife leaves you or dies and you are suddenly alone in the house, that can creep you out. When the doctor tells you have cancer, you have only months to live, that can creep you out. When your best friend suddenly hangs himself in a closet, that can  do it. So, maybe approaching creepiness on a regular basis, watching it, getting used to it, making friends with it, so to speak, might make sense. No?


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: champinhom]
    #22289876 - 09/25/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Shrrrrooooms don't bring the creepy, IME.  If you take creepy into the experience though, they will amplify it, like any other emotion. :shrug:


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22289933 - 09/25/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I prefer LSD over shrooms personally. I had a horrible trip on mushrooms when I was a teenager and was put into a state of fear. That's the only real thing I remember.


I like acid because it doesn't seem to do that. You can channel energy to be either negative or positive and control your trip and make it mesmerizing. When I was on shrooms, it felt like they took over more and I'd have spontaneous bursts of intense laughter, I thought I was peeing on myself the entire night, for some reason I had a fascination with petting my cat, and everything was hilarious when I was finally in bed. Being out and running around terrified me. I remember King Kong chasing me through a forest, watching the road crack before my eyes and I thought an earthquake was happening, man it was intense. I don't think I was able to enjoy any of it until I was finally back at my parents house and in my room. I was 16 I think? And by then, most of the peak effects were done with I'm pretty sure of.


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22289934 - 09/25/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

well its not that it brings it. i just feel like the whole experience can be so mysterious , there is no real danger but youre not completly safe its a world of mysterie and creepiness . but not creepiness only in a bad way ,not sure if you get what im sayin. its this weird magic feeling headspace but that can turn creepy

but yea im thinking about deleting this thread :lolsy: ..blame it on the speed loll i though about all this and doesnt seem to end up somewhere. i basicly just made link with the video i saw and the psychedelic experience. trying to rely dot.

fuckin speed sometime i just think im a freakun genius, next day i wake up read again shit dont make sense :wtfsonic:


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22289939 - 09/25/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nah man, I vote keep the thread :smile:. It's an opinion and a prospective. Everyone can benefit from a prospective one way or another.


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22290022 - 09/25/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

alright ill keep the thread but for the record im not even sure what i am trying to say  :ancientaliens:

like im pretty much just relying dots with psychedelics and the creepiness feeling

like for instance like with DMT on my first breakthrough i saw a clown in incredible paterns, he had this smile i couldnt dig like you dont really know the emotion ,I had this feeling of creepiness but at the same time i wasnt scared knowing im on a trip. he liked looked at me and send me in a spinning psychedelic loop,it was a really weird trip.

took me a lil while before doing dmt again. i was kinda scared in a way


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22290081 - 09/25/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah that's interesting. I don't know. I don't know much about DMT but I'd be interested to test religion with it. Meaning, see if behavior influences a trip. Perhaps being more generous maybe. I don't know.


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: MisterEuphenism]
    #22290172 - 09/25/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

im kinda spiritual myself , wouldnt consider my self religious but im not an atheist. on my first breakthrough i was really expecting meeting some buddha like entity or something, or like god or something. comming back i was really like wtf why clowns? but it apears that Checkerboard patterns and clowns are normal alot of people have seen that. its part of the main archetypes seen in dmt hyperspace

i think dmt is just this kind of beast that cant be tamed ,ive had other really magical trip ,one where i saw this godess made of space grid like, she seemed to control time by rolling the space over here like it was a carpet, and the space she was made of was like the time it self, tripped over 50 times with smoked dmt as of today. only on major dose i had seen more of the intense side

medium dose where you actually see clearly the other side but not going at a 1000 miles/h are lovely and really spiritual :love:, higher dose when youre blasted through dimension is weird and intense as shit but still really majestic and complex but not for the fainth of heart at a certain point i would call it creepy.


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22291081 - 09/25/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah shrooms/tryptamines can very easily take me to hyperspace, and hyperspace like Alices wonderland is a wonderful but very often dark and creepy place inhabited by many weird, frankly pretty hideous creatures.

I hate it when I return, and love it by the time that I leave, just so long as I managed to surrender to it all.

I think the problem is that we are witnessing something so far beyond the normal everyday experience and it is being presented as, and feels like a genuine reality. At the time you are actually down there surrounded by these entities. For this reason it feels violating! As if you really are being interfered and toyed with by a bunch of strange and malevolent creatures. 

I've seen everything from demons to mechanical aliens down there (and much more that I do not have the metaphors for) but not presented as stereotypes that I know my mind is simply recreating but in a way I find it almost impossible to believe that my own mind could ever have even imagined!

For me tryptamines are much more creepy comparatively than the likes of LSD, though I think LSD is much more dangerous psychologically and it goes without saying that LSD too can fucking terrorize the living shit from a man. Its not without the ability to manifest creatures and inspire fear, but its never taken me to hyperspace and isnt a spirit molecule. 

The creepiness is indeed one aspect of the tryptamine experience that I always need to surrender to but something I find very difficult to accept during the come up stage.

Yes tryptamines are creepy!


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: wolf8312]
    #22291529 - 09/26/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

just like he said, our brain doesn't know what to do lol.. or what to expect


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22291782 - 09/26/15 04:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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alright ill keep the thread but for the record im not even sure what i am trying to say  :ancientaliens:

like im pretty much just relying dots with psychedelics and the creepiness feeling

like for instance like with DMT on my first breakthrough i saw a clown in incredible paterns, he had this smile i couldnt dig like you dont really know the emotion ,I had this feeling of creepiness but at the same time i wasnt scared knowing im on a trip. he liked looked at me and send me in a spinning psychedelic loop,it was a really weird trip.

took me a lil while before doing dmt again. i was kinda scared in a way




Had an identical first dmt trip. He was like a jester just smiling creepily art me, holding out his hands and showing me a box.

It was cool, but shook me a lil


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: EnemaOfState]
    #22291911 - 09/26/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I am creepy as are my trips. Interesting video.

Describing my trippy thoughts to people really creeps them out.

I can't win.


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: usulpsychonaut]
    #22292110 - 09/26/15 07:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I am creepy as are my trips. Interesting video.

Describing my trippy thoughts to people really creeps them out.

I can't win.




Sounds like a win to me :shrug:.

Strangeness, creepiness, and alieness is what is so interesting about the mushrooms.


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22292148 - 09/26/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Shrrrrooooms don't bring the creepy, IME.  If you take creepy into the experience though, they will amplify it, like any other emotion. :shrug:



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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22292156 - 09/26/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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alright ill keep the thread but for the record im not even sure what i am trying to say  :ancientaliens:

like im pretty much just relying dots with psychedelics and the creepiness feeling

like for instance like with DMT on my first breakthrough i saw a clown in incredible paterns, he had this smile i couldnt dig like you dont really know the emotion ,I had this feeling of creepiness but at the same time i wasnt scared knowing im on a trip. he liked looked at me and send me in a spinning psychedelic loop,it was a really weird trip.

took me a lil while before doing dmt again. i was kinda scared in a way




...chill on the speed!....just do shroom bro:bigyesnod:

  Imo.....speed makes people creepy!:firstladyofapproval:

    ....fuck that shit....just trip:scaryshroom::bigyesnod:


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: wolf8312]
    #22292192 - 09/26/15 08:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah shrooms/tryptamines can very easily take me to hyperspace, and hyperspace like Alices wonderland is a wonderful but very often dark and creepy place inhabited by many weird, frankly pretty hideous creatures.

I hate it when I return, and love it by the time that I leave, just so long as I managed to surrender to it all.

I think the problem is that we are witnessing something so far beyond the normal everyday experience and it is being presented as, and feels like a genuine reality. At the time you are actually down there surrounded by these entities. For this reason it feels violating! As if you really are being interfered and toyed with by a bunch of strange and malevolent creatures. 

I've seen everything from demons to mechanical aliens down there (and much more that I do not have the metaphors for) but not presented as stereotypes that I know my mind is simply recreating but in a way I find it almost impossible to believe that my own mind could ever have even imagined!

For me tryptamines are much more creepy comparatively than the likes of LSD, though I think LSD is much more dangerous psychologically and it goes without saying that LSD too can fucking terrorize the living shit from a man. Its not without the ability to manifest creatures and inspire fear, but its never taken me to hyperspace and seems to lack the spirit molecule. 

The creepiness is indeed one aspect of the tryptamine experience that I always need to surrender to but something I find very difficult to accept during the come up stage.

Yes tryptamines are creepy!





....the moment when u think ....."my god...I imagined the unimaginable"!........like...I have no reference point for said hallucinations. ........where did it manifest from?

..... this experience in particular is one of the things that really makes me believe it's much more than a simple hallucination. Like having a trip about a smartphone in the 1700's....the unimaginable imagined.....:mindexpanding:


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Re: Creepiness and Shroom [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22292600 - 09/26/15 10:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:hi: if youre trippin this is probably bad vibes.. might wanna change thread :lol:

hey guys, saw this vid of Vsauce on youtube about creepiness and realise , creepiness is a player in the psychedelic experience. I feel that high dose of shrooms is really complex and the whole psychedelic experience is ,but it seems that there is this creepy side down in the rabbit hole and also a creepy tint to some of the experience in general. sure the more you pratice the better you become and feel at ease down there . but still there is this side of the psychedelic experience i want to talk about

ive had my fair share of creepy moments on solo shroom trip :aweoverdose:,  bad tripped, panic attack once .but comming back i was asking my self how can psychedelic be scary when there is nothing really scary about it?, like i myself never hallucinated something scary like a psycho killer or somehting. but I definitly felt the terror.

between safety and danger there is a huge gap of creepiness.. interesting ?watch this only 8 mins ,i feel like i can relate alot this side of the psychedelic experience with this vid


Thanks for reading ,Discuss on what you think , also did you like the vid?:yesnod:




I really dont agree with the guys definition of terror! Think someone is behind you, turn around and find that nobody is there? Thats not terror!

Terror for me is fear so intense that it produces such an extreme mental reaction that it compels one to do almost anything in order to physically escape it. Maybe I am just splitting hairs! Its basically the same state of mind and physical reaction that psychosis produces but without delusion. You really are being murdered!



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ive had my fair share of creepy moments on solo shroom trip :aweoverdose:,  bad tripped, panic attack once .but comming back i was asking my self how can psychedelic be scary when there is nothing really scary about it?, like i myself never hallucinated something scary like a psycho killer or somehting. but I definitly felt the terror.





I know what you mean! I have often thought to myself why is it just not possible when tripping sometimes to shrug fear off as being simple manifestations of a drug?

Indeed that's the crappy advice that many on forums like this often give people who are having bad trips remind yourself its just a drug when at the time, drug or not, seems totally irrelevant!

Yes I am on a drug but does that really negate the fact that I have absolutely no idea where I am, or what any of this is about, and am doomed to a horrible death along with everyone else I love and care about?


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