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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22280087 - 09/23/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It is and always has been a wank.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22280116 - 09/23/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It is and always has been a wank.




Are you British now?


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: Patlal]
    #22280151 - 09/23/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl2:  Many years ago I had a Brit partner.  From Liverpool.  Fuck, I can't remember any of the souser slang.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: Patlal]
    #22280164 - 09/23/15 06:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You would think this kind of news would be an April fools joke. But it's not.

The Saudis are the head of the Human Rights panel.... How impossibly idiotic could that be? Oh and also, to add to it. The Saudis have criticized Norway on its human right record. Can you believe it????

Women have no rights, they still flog and whip people, the death penalty applies to children, brutal laws etc.... And they get to defend the human rights in the UN....

I don't know how many bribes were needed to make that non-sense happen but no sane person would pull a dumass move like that.

I always thought the UN was a joke, but now this is just beyond joke.

WTF UN???



Saudi human right are far better than Norway. Norway doesn't even flog of whip guilty adulterers or behead homosexuals. I think a world where those scum balls are treated appropriatly is fine. Kudos to Arabia! I'm sure they'll do a fine job promoting moral culture and appropriate rather than irresponsible rights in society.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22280292 - 09/23/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If anyone knows, how exactly did they get elected?


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #22280306 - 09/23/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If anyone knows, how exactly did they get elected?



They take turns.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22280382 - 09/23/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We should be invading that country, too bad Americans are bothnstupid and pathetic. What, like they could stop us?


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22280392 - 09/23/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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We should be invading that country, too bad Americans are bothnstupid and pathetic. What, like they could stop us?



Hell yeah!

USA we are 2 time back to back world war champs!

Gonna 3peat ftw!!!


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #22280431 - 09/23/15 08:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, because any of the shitty coumtrries that would support Saudi Arabia could mister up a world war. They have a poorly trained military and need to be ruined so they stop chirnong out Wahabii fucks to poison everyone else.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22281788 - 09/23/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Still though would you steal if the penalty was cutting off your fucking hand? Tell me that isn't a deterrent. All you conservatives claim you are tough on crime, but SA is fucking biblical on it. I actually want the guy who stole my bike to get his hand chopped off too. If he gets caught he laughs at the so called consequences here, I bet criminals in Saudi aren't laughing.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22281838 - 09/24/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Still though would you steal if the penalty was cutting off your fucking hand? Tell me that isn't a deterrent. All you conservatives claim you are tough on crime, but SA is fucking biblical on it. I actually want the guy who stole my bike to get his hand chopped off too. If he gets caught he laughs at the so called consequences here, I bet criminals in Saudi aren't laughing.



Here in the states little kids actually grow up dreaming of joining a gang and being a thug. In Saudi Arabia kids pity the criminal, thief, and thug for their lack of hands and feet.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22281930 - 09/24/15 01:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/execution/readings/history.html
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As far back as the Ancient Laws of China, the death penalty has been established as a punishment for crimes. In the 18th Century BC, the Code of King Hammurabi of Babylon codified the death penalty for twenty five different crimes, although murder was not one of them. The first death sentence historically recorded occurred in 16th Century BC Egypt where the wrongdoer, a member of nobility, was accused of magic, and ordered to take his own life. During this period non-nobility was usually killed with an ax.

In the 14th Century BC, the Hittite Code also prescribed the death penalty. The 7th Century BC Draconian Code of Athens made death the penalty for every crime committed. In the 5th Century BC, the Roman Law of the Twelve Tablets codified the death penalty. Again, the death penalty was different for nobility, freemen and slaves and was punishment for crimes such as the publication of libels and insulting songs, the cutting or grazing of crops planted by a farmer, the burning [of] a house or a stack of corn near a house, cheating by a patron of his client, perjury, making disturbances at night in the city, willful murder of a freeman or a parent, or theft by a slave.




punishments have always been absurdly strict, and yet there have always been criminals. seems like that deterrent effect theory hasn't worked out too well for the last 10k years or so...


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #22281944 - 09/24/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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We should be invading that country, too bad Americans are bothnstupid and pathetic. What, like they could stop us?





Not really stupid and pathetic. FRom a resrouce and financial aspect they build them up by buying out their primary resource and capitilize on their financial ruin once they start to run out of it. There is a very obvious reason why the states sits on one of the largest oil reserves in the world while it suck Saudi Arabia dry, and multiples its enemies at the same time.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22281988 - 09/24/15 02:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/execution/readings/history.html
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As far back as the Ancient Laws of China, the death penalty has been established as a punishment for crimes. In the 18th Century BC, the Code of King Hammurabi of Babylon codified the death penalty for twenty five different crimes, although murder was not one of them. The first death sentence historically recorded occurred in 16th Century BC Egypt where the wrongdoer, a member of nobility, was accused of magic, and ordered to take his own life. During this period non-nobility was usually killed with an ax.

In the 14th Century BC, the Hittite Code also prescribed the death penalty. The 7th Century BC Draconian Code of Athens made death the penalty for every crime committed. In the 5th Century BC, the Roman Law of the Twelve Tablets codified the death penalty. Again, the death penalty was different for nobility, freemen and slaves and was punishment for crimes such as the publication of libels and insulting songs, the cutting or grazing of crops planted by a farmer, the burning [of] a house or a stack of corn near a house, cheating by a patron of his client, perjury, making disturbances at night in the city, willful murder of a freeman or a parent, or theft by a slave.




punishments have always been absurdly strict, and yet there have always been criminals. seems like that deterrent effect theory hasn't worked out too well for the last 10k years or so...




Crime was lower in medieval times. Therefore it worked. Show me where cutting off hands for stealing has increased crime. Even if one person thinks twice before the crime it was a deterrent. It's impossible to eradicate crime with any method, crime always has and always will exist. I just want to lower it. Don't give me this BS that crime still exists therefore it didn't work. No is claiming it will make crime go away.
I bet I could leave my bike unlocked in Riyadh all day and night.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22282016 - 09/24/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

no ur dumb, shutup.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22282021 - 09/24/15 02:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/execution/readings/history.html
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As far back as the Ancient Laws of China, the death penalty has been established as a punishment for crimes. In the 18th Century BC, the Code of King Hammurabi of Babylon codified the death penalty for twenty five different crimes, although murder was not one of them. The first death sentence historically recorded occurred in 16th Century BC Egypt where the wrongdoer, a member of nobility, was accused of magic, and ordered to take his own life. During this period non-nobility was usually killed with an ax.

In the 14th Century BC, the Hittite Code also prescribed the death penalty. The 7th Century BC Draconian Code of Athens made death the penalty for every crime committed. In the 5th Century BC, the Roman Law of the Twelve Tablets codified the death penalty. Again, the death penalty was different for nobility, freemen and slaves and was punishment for crimes such as the publication of libels and insulting songs, the cutting or grazing of crops planted by a farmer, the burning [of] a house or a stack of corn near a house, cheating by a patron of his client, perjury, making disturbances at night in the city, willful murder of a freeman or a parent, or theft by a slave.




punishments have always been absurdly strict, and yet there have always been criminals. seems like that deterrent effect theory hasn't worked out too well for the last 10k years or so...




Crime was lower in medieval times. Therefore it worked. Show me where cutting off hands for stealing has increased crime. Even if one person thinks twice before the crime it was a deterrent. It's impossible to eradicate crime with any method, crime always has and always will exist. I just want to lower it. Don't give me this BS that crime still exists therefore it didn't work. No is claiming it will make crime go away.
I bet I could leave my bike unlocked in Riyadh all day and night.




I don't think cutting off a limb is a fair punishment for stealing. Locking someone up sounds about right. Also, wouldn't you rather put criminals to work in jail? If you are gonna chop off their hand, and render them much more useless society, what is stopping you from just wanting to kill them? Save society money.


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #22282026 - 09/24/15 02:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why not just slap them with a 100,000 dollar bill and milk them for the rest of their lives?  :devito:


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22282670 - 09/24/15 08:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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sources?


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22282704 - 09/24/15 09:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Crime was lower in medieval times.




sources?



You are dense. You make outlandish statements like there has always been crime and therefore harsh punishment doesn't matter in detering crime, while our crime rates are far higher :rolleyes: Then demand sources when your logic is about as bad as I've ever seen. Hypocrisy much?


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Re: Saudi Arabia 'chosen to head key UN human rights panel' [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22282734 - 09/24/15 09:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Crime was lower in medieval times. Therefore it worked. Show me where cutting off hands for stealing has increased crime. Even if one person thinks twice before the crime it was a deterrent. It's impossible to eradicate crime with any method, crime always has and always will exist. I just want to lower it. Don't give me this BS that crime still exists therefore it didn't work. No is claiming it will make crime go away.
I bet I could leave my bike unlocked in Riyadh all day and night.



You are right. Street crime in Saudi Arabia is almost unheard of. You could leave your ipad taped to your unlocked bike and expect to find it all intact the next day. Even in a country like Singapore street crime is at quite a low level. Around here every train is vandalized and "tagged" by scum bags. In Singapore a single incident of vandalism is nationwide news and even results in manhunts for the capture of the guilty culprit.

My guess is that people against punishing thieves are themselves thieves. They just don't want to recieve the just punishment for their own offenses. They just laugh at justice and go about their life of petty crime and shoplifting sprees.


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