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Hot glue on trich?
    #22278437 - 09/23/15 11:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I had a battle with trich infesting all cakes.  After some modification of techniques and procedures,  I am back to beautiful white goodness. However, my house is of course infested with trich and some surface contamination is inevitable. What I came up with for a solution was to carefully put hot glue over the affected area and then remove the glue when it cooled. Anyone else ever try this?  It seems to be fairly effective for minor surface contamination. And the hot glue would in theory not be good for remaining trich mycelium and might capture many spores that are knocked loose. Thoughts  anyone?


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: LlamaLicker]
    #22278470 - 09/23/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Can you tell us what your sterile procedure was?


But i guess that works, i throw all contamination out.


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: Dionili]
    #22278491 - 09/23/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Trich eats cube mycelium you can't cut it out or patch it. It's stupid to do anything but throw it out. Once you see green, too late


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22279517 - 09/23/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I use a coir/verm 50-50 mix with added gypsum and bloodmeal for nutes. I typically haven't had problems with trich, then I switched from brick coir to loose in a bag coir and I think they may have added trich as a soil stabilizer because every tray was immediately and completely infested with trich, despite what I believed to be adequate pastuerization. So I switched back to brick coir and started putting the coor in the microwave to heat to pasteurization temps, as well as putting the entire substrate in the oven for at 400 for a half hour. Then allowing to cool and re-hydrating before adding spawn. This works great. Finally, I don't poke holes in tin foil for three days to give spawn a head start on any outside contams. Have had many completely white, beautiful trays using this method. Then I had a pair with small surface contamination of trich. I removed it with hot glue and covered the bare spot with additional hot glue. This was a week ago, and no sign of it re-appearing. I agree, if trich is within the soil, the cake is toast. However, it seems that if a minor, surface only contamination happens, there is a chance it might be saved with hot glue.
Just wondering if anyone else tried it.
I will update as to what happens in the coming days.


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: LlamaLicker]
    #22279525 - 09/23/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you see green its not a minor surface contamination. The trich mycelium is woven into the cube.


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22279533 - 09/23/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21902877#21902877

Hot glue is futile, continue to cut corners or use shit methods like that and you'll be the next person giving up on cultivation... It only will get harder from here on out now that you've tripped up and the success train stopped


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #22279542 - 09/23/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You are probably right, but I will give updates anyway. I've been doing this for a while and have managed to save trays from small (less than a dime sized) patches of trich by isolating and sealing from rest of tray. But that usually involves delicate surgery within a glove box and only works about a quarter of the time.
But thanks for your encouraging words and constructive criticism.


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: LlamaLicker]
    #22279562 - 09/23/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Covering trich with salt paste, plaster etc... is only advised to be used to stop the spread of spores if you are in the process of a "decent" flush and then the sub/cake should be tossed out.


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: LlamaLicker]
    #22280721 - 09/23/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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LlamaLicker said:
You are probably right, but I will give updates anyway. I've been doing this for a while and have managed to save trays from small (less than a dime sized) patches of trich by isolating and sealing from rest of tray. But that usually involves delicate surgery within a glove box and only works about a quarter of the time.
But thanks for your encouraging words and constructive criticism.



I don't know if I'd consider that saving anything. You're making the assumption that if you left it alone it would have spread to rest of the substrate 100% of the time and also the assumption that it's always the same mold. There are many species of Trichoderma and plenty of molds that look very similar to it. The results of not treating it all will vary as well.

What I can tell you is if you pour salt on aerial Trich mycelium it will prevent it from producing spores in that area which is presumably better than doing nothing but worse than tossing it out. Cutting it out is going to spread around mycelium fragments all over the place.


Edited by Kizzle (09/23/15 08:39 PM)


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Re: Hot glue on trich? [Re: Kizzle]
    #22288844 - 09/25/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

UPDATE:

So, the hot glue maybe bought me another day or two. Green is back in different places. I'm going to isolate it and watch the race between the trich and the good guys. See if maybe I can get a pin or two. Not looking promising though. Thank you all for your comments.


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