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Trypto-Fan
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How much is too much?
#22278242 - 09/23/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just wondering what peoples opinions are on pyschedelic 'abuse' (if that can even be a thing outside the context of doing them in the wrong place/time)
I've pretty much tripped on average 4 or 5 times a month for the whole year, (mostly acid, some 2CB, some shrooms) it's not affecting my life in any negative way that I can see, I function fine in society, with a job, college, etc...
It's great fun, and I don't see myself becoming bored of it any time soon.
And if tolerance wasn't an issue I would probably do more.
But I see a lot of people saying more than once a month is too much...
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superbob57
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Re: How much is too much? [Re: Trypto-Fan] 1
#22278349 - 09/23/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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as we say try to hold on to the Magic the More you space them out and Not get in the headspace so much, you'll enjoy your trips more, IME... But taking a Mega Dose is always
-------------------- If I run full blast, I'll never get tired and If I slow down I get stuck, so I opened my mind and let the wild things in and there not going away but getting stronger, day by day, I will find the source of all things it's only a matter of time and I will be one with the universe once again my friends...I will never find the end but the start of a new begining...-J.R.S.A Man Of Experiences ...IV 4-aco-DMT "Where Fools Rush In, and Angels Fear To Tread..." NN-DMT Pure Magic Wizard Dust! folio]http://www.redbubble.com/people/khaotehk/portfolio[/url] https://youtu.be/C1_YHJDRgqE
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P.Zappatecorum
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Re: How much is too much? [Re: superbob57]
#22278403 - 09/23/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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As long as you're not getting paranoid and starting to believe in weird conspiracies or having permanent snow/fractals residual visuals that indicate the onset of HPPD I'd say you're fine. You're young and healthy and your mind is pretty elastic still. Pretty sure we all went through that phase.
I suspect you will go on one of two paths, you'll keep at it until it does start to effect you negatively and that will end in getting really weird and depending on your brain chemistry you'll be permafried or will get burn out then recuperate, or you'll slowly get bored with that heavy tripping schedule, notice the ill effects before they get too severe and you'll get more responsibilities that prevent you from tripping so much, grow up and grow out of it and start tripping at more responsible pace.
I'd trip once a month if I could, as it's more like 4-8 times a year. Once a week, IME, will have negative side effects eventually.
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superbob57
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P.Zappatecorum said: As long as you're not getting paranoid and starting to believe in weird conspiracies or having permanent snow/fractals residual visuals that indicate the onset of HPPD I'd say you're fine. You're young and healthy and your mind is pretty elastic still. Pretty sure we all went through that phase.
I suspect you will go on one of two paths, you'll keep at it until it does start to effect you negatively and that will end in getting really weird and depending on your brain chemistry you'll be permafried or will get burn out then recuperate, or you'll slowly get bored with that heavy tripping schedule, notice the ill effects before they get too severe and you'll get more responsibilities that prevent you from tripping so much, grow up and grow out of it and start tripping at more responsible pace.
I'd trip once a month if I could, as it's more like 4-8 times a year. Once a week, IME, will have negative side effects eventually.
yeah once a month is really the Best IME, anymore can weird real fast...
-------------------- If I run full blast, I'll never get tired and If I slow down I get stuck, so I opened my mind and let the wild things in and there not going away but getting stronger, day by day, I will find the source of all things it's only a matter of time and I will be one with the universe once again my friends...I will never find the end but the start of a new begining...-J.R.S.A Man Of Experiences ...IV 4-aco-DMT "Where Fools Rush In, and Angels Fear To Tread..." NN-DMT Pure Magic Wizard Dust! folio]http://www.redbubble.com/people/khaotehk/portfolio[/url] https://youtu.be/C1_YHJDRgqE
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Achillita
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Re: How much is too much? [Re: superbob57]
#22278665 - 09/23/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When you need to slow down you'll slow down. I used to trip every week, and then every 2 weeks, and now I'm tripping once a month or really whenever I feel the need to.
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Re: How much is too much? [Re: Trypto-Fan]
#22278826 - 09/23/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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P.Zappatecorum said: As long as you're not getting paranoid and starting to believe in weird conspiracies or having permanent snow/fractals residual visuals that indicate the onset of HPPD I'd say you're fine. You're young and healthy and your mind is pretty elastic still. Pretty sure we all went through that phase.
I suspect you will go on one of two paths, you'll keep at it until it does start to effect you negatively and that will end in getting really weird and depending on your brain chemistry you'll be permafried or will get burn out then recuperate, or you'll slowly get bored with that heavy tripping schedule, notice the ill effects before they get too severe and you'll get more responsibilities that prevent you from tripping so much, grow up and grow out of it and start tripping at more responsible pace.
I'd trip once a month if I could, as it's more like 4-8 times a year. Once a week, IME, will have negative side effects eventually.
Definitely this, as you get older and more experienced you'll learn a lot of the insights or thoughts you have when your tripping frequently will serve you no purpose in reality, it will only end up hurting you in the long run. Its unfortunate but most of the things psychedelics make you feel go against the society we live in and you'll find yourself resenting the whole system. Then you'll end up being broke or running from it, we all must be sheep that are part of a system if we want to get by.
If you don't do psychedelics as often the trips are more just giggles and happiness about how beautiful life can be.
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Rebelutionsssss
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Re: How much is too much? [Re: Achillita]
#22278865 - 09/23/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: When you need to slow down you'll slow down. I used to trip every week, and then every 2 weeks, and now I'm tripping once a month or really whenever I feel the need to.
That's exactly what I did. I'm at the 2 week stage now because I tripped on LSD literally every weekend for 6 or 7 months straight
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Travel
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said: we all must be sheep that are part of a system if we want to get by.
Now that's not very optimistic or 100% true especially in this day and age. You have a point though
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Trypto-Fan
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said: Its unfortunate but most of the things psychedelics make you feel go against the society we live in and you'll find yourself resenting the whole system. Then you'll end up being broke or running from it, we all must be sheep that are part of a system if we want to get by.
The thing is, I've always thought/felt this way about society and 'the system', this is what lead me to psychs in the first place 
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P.Zappatecorum said: As long as you're not getting paranoid and starting to believe in weird conspiracies or having permanent snow/fractals residual visuals that indicate the onset of HPPD I'd say you're fine.
HPPD isn't something that bothers me, I've had it a couple of times but it's only ever lasted a week or so. If anything, 'free trip' 
I've noticed a hell of a lot more synchronicity in life lately though, finding patterns in a lot of shit, and coming up with theories on unseen forces and energies which underlay our sober conscious perception of the universe , which I always have thought about so I guess it's just building on that. I'm able to put all this 'on the side' in a little box in order to get on with the whole reality thing, but it's all pretty interesting
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Peyote Road
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said:
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P.Zappatecorum said: As long as you're not getting paranoid and starting to believe in weird conspiracies or having permanent snow/fractals residual visuals that indicate the onset of HPPD I'd say you're fine. You're young and healthy and your mind is pretty elastic still. Pretty sure we all went through that phase.
I suspect you will go on one of two paths, you'll keep at it until it does start to effect you negatively and that will end in getting really weird and depending on your brain chemistry you'll be permafried or will get burn out then recuperate, or you'll slowly get bored with that heavy tripping schedule, notice the ill effects before they get too severe and you'll get more responsibilities that prevent you from tripping so much, grow up and grow out of it and start tripping at more responsible pace.
I'd trip once a month if I could, as it's more like 4-8 times a year. Once a week, IME, will have negative side effects eventually.
Definitely this, as you get older and more experienced you'll learn a lot of the insights or thoughts you have when your tripping frequently will serve you no purpose in reality, it will only end up hurting you in the long run. Its unfortunate but most of the things psychedelics make you feel go against the society we live in and you'll find yourself resenting the whole system. Then you'll end up being broke or running from it, we all must be sheep that are part of a system if we want to get by.
If you don't do psychedelics as often the trips are more just giggles and happiness about how beautiful life can be.
In my opinion, the only way to go in you want to do a lot of psychedelics and remain mentally healthy and happy is to go down the spiritual path.
Psychedelics have certainly shown me the ugly side of humanity and american society in particular. I hated society anyway before psychedelics but now I have seen even more deeply how cruel and barbaric and ignorant our culture is. In the words of John Scott (australian amanita user) we don't have a culture, we just consume things.
The message that society sends to people is that they don't matter, what matters is their money. How sad to be part of a people that values things more than people.
But the beauty of the spiritual path is that none of that matters. None of that actually stops you from being happy if you are willingly to become mentally strong enough and compassionate and loving enough to serve as a vessel for the Holy Spirit and serve God rather than selfish human desire. Then in the words of the Philokalia, you can celebrate a festival of joy in your heart which you can take with you whever you go.
Psychedelics are in my opinion, an effective means for helping a person set their heart up for this festival.
Too much psychedelics can make you burnt out or spaced out though, which is why I recommend alternating between psilocybin trips, amanaita muscaria trips (which do the opposite of psilocybin and collect your energy inward) and periods of sober prayers and meditations.
If you just want to trip all the time but ignore the lessons then you will eventually start having dark trips in my opinion. There are people who do this, but they tend to get burnt out or spaced out and often end up hooked on other drugs in addition to psychedelics. They may talk about how the spiritual experiences theyve had on psychedelics like "becoming one with the universe" but they never put forth any effort toward actually living a spiritual life.
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Re: How much is too much? [Re: superbob57]
#22281156 - 09/23/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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superbob57 said:
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P.Zappatecorum said: As long as you're not getting paranoid and starting to believe in weird conspiracies or having permanent snow/fractals residual visuals that indicate the onset of HPPD I'd say you're fine. You're young and healthy and your mind is pretty elastic still. Pretty sure we all went through that phase.
I suspect you will go on one of two paths, you'll keep at it until it does start to effect you negatively and that will end in getting really weird and depending on your brain chemistry you'll be permafried or will get burn out then recuperate, or you'll slowly get bored with that heavy tripping schedule, notice the ill effects before they get too severe and you'll get more responsibilities that prevent you from tripping so much, grow up and grow out of it and start tripping at more responsible pace.
I'd trip once a month if I could, as it's more like 4-8 times a year. Once a week, IME, will have negative side effects eventually.
yeah once a month is really the Best IME, anymore can weird real fast...
Agreed, I never ever trip more than once a month now.
Gotta keep that magic...
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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AkashicExplorer
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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said:
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P.Zappatecorum said: As long as you're not getting paranoid and starting to believe in weird conspiracies or having permanent snow/fractals residual visuals that indicate the onset of HPPD I'd say you're fine. You're young and healthy and your mind is pretty elastic still. Pretty sure we all went through that phase.
I suspect you will go on one of two paths, you'll keep at it until it does start to effect you negatively and that will end in getting really weird and depending on your brain chemistry you'll be permafried or will get burn out then recuperate, or you'll slowly get bored with that heavy tripping schedule, notice the ill effects before they get too severe and you'll get more responsibilities that prevent you from tripping so much, grow up and grow out of it and start tripping at more responsible pace.
I'd trip once a month if I could, as it's more like 4-8 times a year. Once a week, IME, will have negative side effects eventually.
Definitely this, as you get older and more experienced you'll learn a lot of the insights or thoughts you have when your tripping frequently will serve you no purpose in reality, it will only end up hurting you in the long run. Its unfortunate but most of the things psychedelics make you feel go against the society we live in and you'll find yourself resenting the whole system. Then you'll end up being broke or running from it, we all must be sheep that are part of a system if we want to get by.
If you don't do psychedelics as often the trips are more just giggles and happiness about how beautiful life can be.
So accept our constructed fake reality and live with it from a naive point of view?
I can't agree. I can agree that life continues, but you do not need to be a slave of the system or at least, remain mentally awaken and aware of the true existence around you.
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Too often = not good. one giant dose a year = magical!
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dont bite off more than you can chew, that's the bottom line
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