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3.5 grams felt weak
    #22277839 - 09/23/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

2 grams felt the same to me as 3.5 grams, am I doing something wrong?  I have taken, on separate occasions, 2 grams, 2.5 grams, then 3.5 grams.  I have a legit scale and these are mushrooms I grew and dehydrated myself.  Each time I didn't get any noticeable visuals opened or closed eyed.  I do however enjoy insightful thoughts.  I am more than happy not to have visuals however I would like a stronger emotional experience.

I always drink my tea first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and I have made the same tea each time.  I grind the shrooms into powder, put them in a reusable tea bag.  I soak the bag in lemon juice for about 20-30 min.  I squeeze the tea bag and then mix the lemon juice with tea and honey.Each time I usually get a little nauseous on the come up and my body feels anxious, however I expected a much stronger experience on 3.5 grams.  Any thoughts on what I could be doing wrong?


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: TrailGazer]
    #22277942 - 09/23/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ms syringe? If so potency can vary between mushrooms. Also tolerance, how long between trips?


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: PabloSumgie]
    #22277955 - 09/23/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes to m.s. syringe.  I go weeks in between trips...


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: TrailGazer]
    #22278221 - 09/23/15 10:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just weak shrooms i would say. 3.5g should give you a nice level 3 trip with visuals.


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: LSDollar]
    #22278302 - 09/23/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the input.  I guess it the shrooms and not my ingestion method.  This was my first grow.  I am guessing all the mushrooms from the grow (I did pf tek) are weak then?  If I do another grow using the same spores I used for the first grow, is it possible to get a stronger batch since they are M.S. or will the results be the same?  Thanks!


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: TrailGazer]
    #22278518 - 09/23/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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TrailGazer said:
Thanks for the input.  I guess it the shrooms and not my ingestion method.  This was my first grow.  I am guessing all the mushrooms from the grow (I did pf tek) are weak then?  If I do another grow using the same spores I used for the first grow, is it possible to get a stronger batch since they are M.S. or will the results be the same?  Thanks!




What variety of mushrooms did you use to make the tea?


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: TrailGazer]
    #22278562 - 09/23/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I guess it the shrooms and not my ingestion method.




Not sure. At least try a different method some time. Maybe simmer the shrooms in water for 10 minutes, then drink the tea AND eat the material too. That made a difference for me sometimes.

Also, take at least two weeks between trips to avoid tolerance.

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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: Hanz]
    #22279034 - 09/23/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Champinhom, I think they were B+

Hanz, thanks.  I was thinking of ingesting the material as well but I have been hesitant because of nausea.  However, I will ingest the entire fruit next time.


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: TrailGazer]
    #22279369 - 09/23/15 03:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Champinhom, I think they were B+

Hanz, thanks.  I was thinking of ingesting the material as well but I have been hesitant because of nausea.  However, I will ingest the entire fruit next time.




B+ has a reputation for being weak--not always, but more often than other varieties.

I wouldn't eat the entire fruit--why trade a mild experience for a belly ache? Just use more when you make your tea.


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: champinhom]
    #22279536 - 09/23/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good suggestion Champinhom :thumbup:


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: TrailGazer]
    #22279716 - 09/23/15 05:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

B+ has been incredibly weak for me

Are you sure they are cracker dry?

And finally, take more.


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: champinhom]
    #22279865 - 09/23/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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TrailGazer said:
Champinhom, I think they were B+

Hanz, thanks.  I was thinking of ingesting the material as well but I have been hesitant because of nausea.  However, I will ingest the entire fruit next time.




B+ has a reputation for being weak--not always, but more often than other varieties.

I wouldn't eat the entire fruit--why trade a mild experience for a belly ache? Just use more when you make your tea.




That's also possible. But is there really a one-on-one correspondence between ingesting the fruit and nausea? Perhaps not for everyone. IME I found that chewing the fruit as fine and for as long as possible prevented nausea. Another possibility would be to cracker dry the shrooms, and then shred them to a fine powder. So, perhaps it is not ingesting the fruit per se that is bad, but ingesting too large chunks of it that the stomach can't handle?

Of course everyone should just find out what works best for them and go with that... :shrug:

:heart: Hanz.


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: Hanz]
    #22280313 - 09/23/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Make a bigger batch of tea and split it four ways, take one and freeze the other three. You'll have three doses that way of known potency.


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: TrailGazer]
    #22280361 - 09/23/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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TrailGazer said:
2 grams felt the same to me as 3.5 grams, am I doing something wrong?  I have taken, on separate occasions, 2 grams, 2.5 grams, then 3.5 grams.  I have a legit scale and these are mushrooms I grew and dehydrated myself.  Each time I didn't get any noticeable visuals opened or closed eyed.  I do however enjoy insightful thoughts.  I am more than happy not to have visuals however I would like a stronger emotional experience.

I always drink my tea first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and I have made the same tea each time.  I grind the shrooms into powder, put them in a reusable tea bag.  I soak the bag in lemon juice for about 20-30 min.  I squeeze the tea bag and then mix the lemon juice with tea and honey.Each time I usually get a little nauseous on the come up and my body feels anxious, however I expected a much stronger experience on 3.5 grams.  Any thoughts on what I could be doing wrong?



Tea bags can limit the surface area, I'd do a courser chop, float it loose in the saucepan as you boil then strain and squeeze.  Honestly, tea should hit harder and have a stronger peak but not last as long, so eating the mushrooms will make them feel even weaker, plus have the potential for nausea.  Try and get some better prints and grow a stronger strain like PE.  Having a rich substrate like horsepoo can really help with potency as well.  I grew some redboy on Hpoo back when I grew cubes and those were super potent, 20g fresh felt like a strong 3.5g of average cubes.

Also, how much space between trips.  Do you have tolerance built up?  Wait at least 2 weeks between trips to maximize your enjoyment. 


Edited by P.Zappatecorum (09/23/15 07:46 PM)


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Re: 3.5 grams felt weak [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22282230 - 09/24/15 06:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for all the tips!  The fruits are definitely cracker dry.  I don't trip often, maybe once every two months so tolerance is not an issue.


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