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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22282220 - 09/24/15 06:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

it is Super Heavy, The Afterglow almost worth it though...but yeah I could see that on lower doses but heroic dose and DMT X1000:mindblown:
yeah, that's why I dabble in that headspace while im in it. DMT is quiet the roller coaster...


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: superbob57]
    #22282285 - 09/24/15 06:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Anybody tried inhaling nitrous after smoking dmt? Like you keep a ballon in your hand ,and instead of the third hit ,or after the third hit you inhale the ballon?

For me it has been one of the most recreational experience with dmt , it's like it dumbs you down so much you can't think you just live the moment to the fullest ,plus it hits you so fast supress the comeup completly for me . Really enjoyable experience overall :vibin:


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22282940 - 09/24/15 09:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No but that sounds extremely had to do when you're blasting off. I can't even sit up straight and tend to fall over when I'm leaving this universe let alone handle a fucking balloon :lol:


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22283019 - 09/24/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lol

Yea I can't imagine doing anything else besides hitting the pipe.


As soon as I exhale, I tend to just lay down and close my eyes.



I do get anxiety though before I go in.  Which leads to me not smoking that often.  But i'm starting to get more into the idea of ayahuasca just because the freebase is really intense and quick, it would be nice to be able to explore more.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Big Worm]
    #22283263 - 09/24/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I admit taking it after the third hit is kinda pushing it, but really it's not that hard everything is in the technic and in the speed of execution you still have a 1min time frame before completly losing it , can be easier if you have someone to Heat the deemz while you inhale. So like you're holding the bong with left hand , ballon in right hand . Take 2-3 hits and even if the imagerie started and you feel heavy and synesthesia coming on ,you just force yourself and do it . It's not comfortable but really it's not that hard


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22283279 - 09/24/15 11:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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No but that sounds extremely had to do when you're blasting off. I can't even sit up straight and tend to fall over when I'm leaving this universe let alone handle a fucking balloon :lol:



Yea definitely agree, I've tried to breakthrough on my own but haven't been able to without someone to hold the pipe an lighter for me. After the second hit everything gets really visual.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22283288 - 09/24/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I get it.


I just smoke out of a machine, so I only take one slow hit and i'm gone.

I only have time for my first exhale and that's it, then I can't really function and need to remind myself to breathe.


It's already so intense I couldn't see myself needing a balloon with it.


And I am usually trying to push things outside the boundaries when it comes to psychedelics, but DMT is too much sometimes even by itself.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22283289 - 09/24/15 11:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well I admit taking it after the third hit is kinda pushing it, but really it's not that hard everything is in the technic and in the speed of execution you still have a 1min time frame before completly losing it , can be easier if you have someone to Heat the deemz while you inhale. So like you're holding the bong with left hand , ballon in right hand . Take 2-3 hits and even if the imagerie started and you feel heavy and synnedthesia coming on ,you just force yourself and do it . It's not comfortable but really it's not that hard



dmt comeups are hard but it part of the experience. like for me who loves tattoos, you shouldnt get one if you wont put up with the pain.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Big Worm]
    #22283434 - 09/24/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

im not doing it only for the comeup :shrug: ,the whole experience is different with the nitrous.

also ime lighting up and inhaling a bong after 2 hits is harder then simply inhaling a ballon.

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I just smoke out of a machine, so I only take one slow hit and i'm gone.
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of course hits are subjective , you could have a more potent single hit then 3 weak hits. depends on the amount of dmt vapor per hits. me saying 2-3 hits then a ballon is subjective. with a good technic and a good smoking engine and a good amount of deemz 1 hit is enough.

all in all im just sayin mixin nitrous and DMT is fun:aweyeah: and the comeup to OBE is instant

also its not as intense as one would assume DMT plus nitrous is, really got to try it to see.really i feel like it makes the experience smoother ,less time for questions just pure psychedelic pleasure


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: phishindub]
    #22284305 - 09/24/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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.....I have heard about syrian rue but I'm not completely sure what it is. I've also heard a bit of mullien helps with this anxiety I'm speaking of. Has anyone had experience with it?

  I am also trying to figure out the best vaping method for my next blast off this evening. Any suggestions?






Mullein won't do a damn thing for anxiety....I've worked with it over the years for smoking blends and for smoking dmt on, and never noticed any sort of anxiolytic effect from it...I've never heard about this aspect of mullein from anyone else, and I'm not aware of any active component in mullein that would provide an anxiolytic effect.


Do some research on syrian rue if you don't know what it is or how to go about working with it. I'm not going to go in depth when information about it can be found easily. But syrian rue contains the harmala alkaloids which are the same actives found within the ayahuasca vine (though in different ratios). It is a reversible MAOI and has it's own psychoactivity as well. It has terrific synergy with the classic psychedelics, but it pairs very well with tryptamines in particular. It can potentiate as well as pro-long a trip, but at the same time it makes the experience more grounded and tranquil IME....

It slows down my dmt experiences and makes the whole thing much easier to process and take in....






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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: openmind]
    #22284343 - 09/24/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And in regards to nitrous with dmt.....I love nitrous when I'm on LSD, or Mushrooms, or mescaline, or MDMA. The only times I inhale it is when I'm on one of those substances . And my
"peak" experiences have been catalyzed by nitrous while on LSD.



....but the few times I've inhaled it after smoking light to moderate amounts of dmt, or during the comedown/afterglow of smoked dmt, I didn't like it at all. It totally washed me out of the dmt headspace I was in, shifted my headspace and just completely cut me off from what the dmt had going on.

On one occasion there was a gorgeous feminine entity (similar in appearance to a hindu goddess) dancing around in front of my POV, as soon as I inhaled the nitrous I lost view/contact with her and the visuals became all muddled and not nearly as interesting/intricate as what I had going on prior to inhaling the nitrous.






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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: openmind]
    #22284382 - 09/24/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with Jean-guy Masta, inhaling from a balloon is not that difficult. I vape my DMT in a volcano and specifically enjoy being able to hold the bag of vapors and not worry about fumbling a lighter and glass. I can be leaning back with eyes closed, 3 hits deep, and still have the muscle memory to bring my hand to mouth and inhale. Sometimes minutes go by that feel like hours and I suddenly realize I'm still sitting there with the bag in my hand and am able to continue another hit to be pulled back in. Never tried nitrous so I can't comment on how that would compliment the trip, but balloon / bag inhalation is a wonderful and easy technique.

I also second Openmind's comments - Mullein is notable for helping throat discomfort, but never heard of it being used for anxiety. It's a good, fluffy base for changa though, which as Openmind pointed out, changa is a more gradual DMT experience that you can step into rather than dive into. Probably what the OP should try next.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: openmind]
    #22284969 - 09/24/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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....but the few times I've inhaled it after smoking light to moderate amounts of dmt, or during the comedown/afterglow of smoked dmt, I didn't like it at all. It totally washed me out of the dmt headspace I was in, shifted my headspace and just completely cut me off from what the dmt had going on.

On one occasion there was a gorgeous feminine entity (similar in appearance to a hindu goddess) dancing around in front of my POV, as soon as I inhaled the nitrous I lost view/contact with her and the visuals became all muddled and not nearly as interesting/intricate as what I had going on prior to inhaling the nitrous.
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cant talk about on the comedown or light dose only did it on pretty good dose  but I totally agree in the sense that it completly change the headspace, it sends you in another realm, its less majestic, it dumbs is down. its less paterny and more thingy and twisted . like i feel like a kid in a front of a tv and the more the images changes and the more my mind is twisted and the more fun i get out of it.

this video would be the closest thing i could compare to the visual of  the trip. fast clear imagery constantly changing , lots of 3D multi color liquid every time. also the connection with the body is really non existant i dont even bother about breathing im just not there its like a dream.



never felt entity with nitrous tho, only on straight DMT i have seen and felt the presence of an inteligent thing. like a clown in incredible patterns ,and feminine "godess" made of geometric space grid like, DMT alone makes more sense and seems to have story line to an extend.

not saying with nitrous its better, its different, funnier in a way, dmt alone is more serious and grandiose


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Icon]
    #22286152 - 09/24/15 09:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What temperatures do you vape at?


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22286278 - 09/24/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Try calming your mind before you go in. You just need to relax listen to some shamim music and mediate when you feel right and have prepared your mind it will make the trip so much better. It's easy just focus on breathing in and out and think of the serpents that great you (or whatever you rember the most strongly from the part where your leaving) it puts you in the best mind state to revive the medicine. Don't just toke it relax and think deeply then you will be fine. The more respect you have for DMT the more it respects you by showing you things. Just try and do it as proficainal as possible I'm sure it will be fine.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #22286932 - 09/25/15 02:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What temperatures do you vape at?



@ 420 f

It will vape at a much lower temperature but the higher temps still hit smooth and fill more potent bags.


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