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anxiety/fear from DMT come up
    #22277175 - 09/23/15 12:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So tonight I was able to get ahold of some freebase DMT. I have been overly excited about this for the past week when I first found out I would soon be able to travel back into hyperspace after a 2 year absence. After I picked up the DMT I went to my friends house to blast off. Sadly we had to use a bong and use ash as a bed for the deems to lay on. I loaded on a nickel sized bit of the crystals.

  I let my friend go first and I helped hold the bong and lighter then after he was done I hit it myself. Now it had been about 2 years since my last experiences with DMT and they were amazing to say the least. I did experience a lot of fear and anxiety for the first 60 seconds or so. And again tonight I had the same fear and anxiety. So I was wondering if anyone else experiences this extreme fear/anxiety when blasting off?

  It only last about 60 seconds, once I reach hyperspace my mood is completely calm. I did freak out for a second because I didn't feel I was attached to my body anymore. Also found myself forgetting to breathe. I think that was because I felt disconnected from my physical body. Anyways, has anyone else experienced this? And do you have a way of calming yourself when it happens?


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: phishindub]
    #22277283 - 09/23/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pre flight gitters is all. I still get them almost every time
and i have been experimenting with DMT for many years, in all its forms.

Edit: And ya sometimes i come out of a breakthrough, and feel like i hadn't
taken a breath the entire 15 or so minutes.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: phishindub]
    #22277288 - 09/23/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yea. Standing in the batters box waiting for the pitcher to throw the ball be high nerve activity.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #22277293 - 09/23/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's definitely a very very weird feeling.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #22277615 - 09/23/15 07:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Being already high on a psych like LSD or shrooms or 4-aco-met or any other psych I guess ,makes it easier, smoother transition . Instead of going from 0-100 your going from like 50-100.

Hitting nitrous instead of your 3rd toke makes it a lot easier also, but it's different,hits you way faster like a matter of second, no time to think ,would go as far I say it makes dmt a recreational thing


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22277640 - 09/23/15 07:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Very true. When I smoked dmt on LSD it was a much more easier come up. I almost think I'm going to save the majority of my dmt for when I'm tripping. It added a really good vibe to my trip which I could actually hold on to and remember


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22278012 - 09/23/15 09:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Really? I would've thought dmt while already tripping would just amplify that anxiety feeling on the come up. Hmmm I still have a few hits left, might have to try that out. Whens the best time to blast off during the trip? Peak? Or say 5-6 hours in when the trip is a bit more managable?


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: phishindub]
    #22278104 - 09/23/15 10:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you have the money, get some Lemon Balm oil.

Use it in a small space as aromatherapy and then...

Put really hot water into your bong (prewarm the bong under hot water) and then put a few drops of Lemon Balm oil into the water.

Take your hits, should help significantly.

Also CBD goes well with anything.

Also I strongly believe melatonin can positively impact tryptamines. Take 5mg 2 hours before your dose.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: QT3BFLEE]
    #22278125 - 09/23/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Did a teeny dose last night out of a dab rig just for threshold and even though i knew id hardly feel much i got so jittery and nervous. (Especially as it was only my second experience wIth dmt)

It was nice though, super euphoric and calm, but man that comeup can be kinda scary. Its not even because you fear a bad trip, you just know how astonishing and mind-blowing beyond words its gonna be.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: EnemaOfState]
    #22278245 - 09/23/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Did a teeny dose last night out of a dab rig just for threshold and even though i knew id hardly feel much i got so jittery and nervous. (Especially as it was only my second experience wIth dmt)

It was nice though, super euphoric and calm, but man that comeup can be kinda scary. Its not even because you fear a bad trip, you just know how astonishing and mind-blowing beyond words its gonna be.



Yes that's how I feel. Its not a fear of bad trip but rather a fear of being launched an thrown into some an alternate reality so quickly.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: EnemaOfState]
    #22278338 - 09/23/15 11:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Did a teeny dose last night out of a dab rig just for threshold and even though i knew id hardly feel much i got so jittery and nervous. (Especially as it was only my second experience wIth dmt)

It was nice though, super euphoric and calm, but man that comeup can be kinda scary. Its not even because you fear a bad trip, you just know how astonishing and mind-blowing beyond words its gonna be.




Yep cause it going to rock your Shit! I do feel the trans easier on LSD or any other Psyche chem.But DeemZ & LSD go really well together. Depends on how deep the LSD trip is and at what ug? but yeah 100ug trip plus some deemz is Nice!:seriousthumbsup::hahyeahwoo::mindblown::trippnballs:


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: phishindub]
    #22278807 - 09/23/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Really? I would've thought dmt while already tripping would just amplify that anxiety feeling on the come up. Hmmm I still have a few hits left, might have to try that out. Whens the best time to blast off during the trip? Peak? Or say 5-6 hours in when the trip is a bit more managable?



Yea but when you blast off while tripping it's easier because your mind has already been adjusted to the psychedelic state a little bit rather than going from stone cold sober to high as holy hell. The trips just as intense if not more it's just the anxiety on the come up is gone for me. I ramp up to the experience on LSD compared to being sober I'm just slammed right there really really fast and hard


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: phishindub]
    #22279066 - 09/23/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I never used to have much or any anxiety before smoking dmt or during the initial flash....but ever since I had my one and only panic/anxiety attack while tripping on mushrooms last winter, since then I've had some lingering general anxiety and it certainly comes to the surface when I'm sitting there in my dark and silent closet, with the pipe in my hand.




I concur with what others have mentioned....Smoking it while already tripping (LSD, or mushrooms, or mescaline) makes for absolutely no pre-flight anxiety and a much easier transition for me.....There's literally no fear/anxiety going into it when I'm already off-baseline.


But when I want to dabble with some of the stuff when I'm not on a psychedelic.....Smoking some syrian rue before smoking dmt provides a nice tranquil and calm headspace, has somewhat of an anti-anxiety effect about it, it mellows me into a mildly-psychedelic stoned space, and I'm going into it with out being 100% sober at baseline. It also slows down the rapid come up, and slows down the experience in general.


And kratom....I take kratom just about every day as it is, but if I plan on smoking some dmt I'll sometimes take some kratom about an hour before smoking it. As far as anti-anxiety substances go, I prefer kratom over alcohol or benzos (for me, kratom mellows anxiety without dulling or numbing the mind much like alcohol or benzos will).


And I also go into my smoked-DMT experiences like a meditation...I take at least 3 to 5 minutes to just sit down on the ground with legs crossed and pipe in my hands, eyes closed, with a silent mind & no thoughts, just following my breathe....and I focus on & follow my breathe into the experience.





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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: openmind]
    #22279497 - 09/23/15 04:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Meditation is definitely a great way to ease the mind.

One user suggested playing intense Progressive or Psy-trance Music right before toking DMT. I could imagine that would be an easier  transistion as the intense psychedelic music "primes" your brain for the ultra fast, intense experience of toking DMT.

Also, Bill has done shrooms then DMT and said its the best transition Ever. super smooth from shrooms to DMT (as they are chemical similar anyway).

He recommends during the peark of a shroom trip, to smoke DMT. That wa, u are already half way there :thumbup:


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: openmind]
    #22279556 - 09/23/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I definitely understand how kratom would help calm the nerves before a dmt experience. But as I am coming up on 2 years sober from all opiates kratom would bring me a step in the wrong direction. I have heard about syrian rue but I'm not completely sure what it is. I've also heard a bit of mullien helps with this anxiety I'm speaking of. Has anyone had experience with it?

  I am also trying to figure out the best vaping method for my next blast off this evening. Any suggestions?


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: phishindub]
    #22279634 - 09/23/15 04:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I prefer using a microtorch with a healthstone, inside a glass bong.

How do usually vape it?


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22280506 - 09/23/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I've only had a handful of experiences and Ive just used the herb dmt herb in a normal pipe method. It has definitely gotten the job done. But as I now have a decent quantity I have been looking for a proper dmt vape/setup. Has anyone ever used a vapor genie for dmt? I have heard it works really well. I had also thought about using an oil burner but I feel if I'm going to spend money for a setup I may as well get a better quality pipe/vape.


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22281127 - 09/23/15 09:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Really? I would've thought dmt while already tripping would just amplify that anxiety feeling on the come up. Hmmm I still have a few hits left, might have to try that out. Whens the best time to blast off during the trip? Peak? Or say 5-6 hours in when the trip is a bit more managable?



Yea but when you blast off while tripping it's easier because your mind has already been adjusted to the psychedelic state a little bit rather than going from stone cold sober to high as holy hell. The trips just as intense if not more it's just the anxiety on the come up is gone for me. I ramp up to the experience on LSD compared to being sober I'm just slammed right there really really fast and hard





This.

Ive been urging people on here for years to never smoke DMT unless you are already tripping(if you have massive pre-flight jitters like myself)


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22281333 - 09/23/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In saving almost all my dmt for tripping. It's amazing while sober but just too much for me at times. On psychedelics I can't wait to hit the dmt pipe over and over haha last wayyy longer while you're tripping too


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Re: anxiety/fear from DMT come up [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22281348 - 09/23/15 09:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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In saving almost all my dmt for tripping. It's amazing while sober but just too much for me at times. On psychedelics I can't wait to hit the dmt pipe over and over haha last wayyy longer while you're tripping too





Yup.

My best DMT trip came from smoking it while on mushrooms. Literally met God :lol:

after that I promised myself I would never smoke dmt by itself again. like you said, its just too much going from totally sober to dmt hyperspace.


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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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