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Re: Anxiety [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22280391 - 09/23/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When I was on a lot of benzos I had a car crash, drank some urine and tea bagged my little brother. Not exactly boring.


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Re: Anxiety [Re: kr0nik0]
    #22280594 - 09/23/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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There's a huge difference between people that ingest benzos recreationally and people like myself that take them only when needed on the verge of a panic attack. For me, benzos are more of a safety net...Even when my anxiety is terrible, I don't take any. Only if I'm on the verge of a panic attack I'll dose. I'll only take .25-.5mg's anyways so that's not enough to make me act really any different. :shrug:



QFT - I'm exactly the same way.  I avoid more than 2 days of consecutive use... that said, I don't usually take it 2 days in a row to begin with. :wink:

Just knowing I have it for a just-in-case, brings a comfort.
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Re: Anxiety [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #22283815 - 09/24/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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kr0nik0 said:
There's a huge difference between people that ingest benzos recreationally and people like myself that take them only when needed on the verge of a panic attack. For me, benzos are more of a safety net...Even when my anxiety is terrible, I don't take any. Only if I'm on the verge of a panic attack I'll dose. I'll only take .25-.5mg's anyways so that's not enough to make me act really any different. :shrug:



QFT - I'm exactly the same way.  I avoid more than 2 days of consecutive use... that said, I don't usually take it 2 days in a row to begin with. :wink:

Just knowing I have it for a just-in-case, brings a comfort.
:flowerchild:




I agree, it can be like a safety net. I just don't enjoy relying on benzos and TBH I don't think that anxiety is something you could invent a miracle medicine for, with no ill effects. Sobriety keeps me less anxious than any drug I've ever ingested.


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22296007 - 09/26/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
I just made a post about anxiety tell me what you guys think


Anxiety = over avoiding all your fears.

Exposure = root solution to cure anxiety

Medication = temporary crutch to avoid true exposure

Which basically means in order to get over the anxiety, you gotta be overwhelmed with the anxiety for a little bit for it to dip back down.



Well said BC!


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22297028 - 09/27/15 04:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Check your sleep quality. Any apneas? Anxiety might be entirely relieved by addressing sleep quality issues. I have sleep apnea and I get serious anxiety in public when I neglect to use the CPAP machine. When it hits the spot, and I wake up energetic, no anxiety at all, I'm a different person.


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Re: Anxiety [Re: rippleinstillwater]
    #22308449 - 09/29/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sadly, my Social Anxiety is coming back hard during this semester.

Every day I'm at my college I feel like a guy from a Radiohead song, and like not in a passionate way.

However, I think it has a lot to do with a paradigm shift in my lifestyle of, going sober, trying to be more assertive, mindful about health, quitting smoking etc. that ended up plateauing at a place I don't like. 

Pushing and challenging myself to be better gave me confidence for the past year, in fact I've been confident then I have even been in the past. Sadly that is going to be the most effective activity for reducing social anxiety. You have to prove yourself wrong, become aware that you are growing and changing into someone different then you are now and that YOU have the most control over who that person will be.

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Re: Anxiety [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #22352332 - 10/08/15 10:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well the CPAP thing isn't as effective as I thought, I was mainly restricting myself to familiar locations.

I think perhaps we are all maladjusted?

Do you think if we start to 'take it easy' in all aspects of life, especially right now, from here, at home, that the 'calmness' will spread to the public sphere?

I certainly overthink and overreact, to most things, maybe if I just started 'taking it easy' from now, I might grow?


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Re: Anxiety [Re: circastes]
    #22365167 - 10/11/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know, but I think about that a lot.

I don't think taking it easy at home ever helps, unless you work hard for it.I feel like going away from pain of trying hard to better ourselves only makes us weaker. We need to dive into uncomfort at home and with others to get use to the feeling of being uncomfortable. We are maladjusted, maybe from the beginning so I'm trying to accept the difficult truths in my anxiety. Like that, I'll rarely feel comfortable around people, i'm prone to repetition, i'm scared of change and dislike help etc.   

I think everyone feels those things, but they somehow accepted them and find a way to avoid the ensuing anxiety, like art, making love, using drugs, repression and all the other defense mechanism.

I hate the term "overthinking"

it implies that thinking is something quantitative that has been measured and statically analyzed to find a accepted rate that everyone else somehow maintains. you think just the right amount, it's all about making good use of your thoughts.


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Re: Anxiety [Re: circastes]
    #22365663 - 10/11/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

circastes, let me ask you, what made you decide to use the cpap machine? were you diagnosed with sleep apnea?

if so, what were your symptoms?


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Re: Anxiety [Re: rippleinstillwater]
    #22368256 - 10/12/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

how are ya doin, ripple?

mine was always interesting - didn't come up 'til about 15 or so - then i was always happy alone,

social situations were tough - walking into a convenience store i got tunnel vision and almost passed out once;


just be patient, give it time. . . all will recover. . always i kept that faith even though it took 5-6 years. . . to get back to normal.


i remember thinkin' during that time, partly --- i was unable to speak, even --- remember thinkin',


how do people say silly things and mess things up?  they don't appreciate how valuable even speaking is. . .


over the years i learned it was largely due to being sensitive to so much more. . . going on - around me-


everyone is dancing in one beautiful harmony of infinity, and. . . no one knows it!  well, plenty do :sun: I know now. . . but that was part of it. . .



i wasn't able to speak, etc. . . for a lot of years. . . and - i would flinch and gulp, i had anxiety of my mouth. . . i would hold my hand over it --- all the time, that was my shelter, heh. . .

i wanted to ...



so - everything and anything you ever want to be, you can be. . . ( i forgot in the other thread, mentioning Em's - ' all that Adam had and Ceasar could, you have and can do. ' :-)


today's parlance, a few days past, i translated it to modern-day people and had this one:


'All that Carlsen has and Esfandiari can - you have and can do.' hehe. . .


but every weakness, when it's overcome, becomes a strength - then you understand people, that we're all the same - and every one matters, etc. . . .


and, being more sensitive to the world - this is only a strength, when self-mastery is found. . .


walking in nature was always the very best. . . for me, anyway. . . and playing guitar a great outlet. . . 


and wasn't 'til a few different experiences - factory work, convenience store work, other wonderful experiences -  that it came to fade completely. . .



Then - the joyful result is. . . like a tree that got weighed down by a big rock, survived the storm .. .


the result - for life - is peace.  We grow from everything, if we use it well. . .


We may learn from every experience. . .



Peace and Love-

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Re: Anxiety [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22368328 - 10/12/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sometimes medicine induces anxiety. Especially caffiene.

I try to vear away from caffiene but here I am drinking cola.


You should get a cat, they like to climb trees and stuff. There so smug.

I live around feral cats and they just walk around chilling in the sun.


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Roostertail]
    #22368362 - 10/12/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

hehe :smile: :smile: yepp. . this was long time 'go. . . for me, time is not quite linear always.

very beautiful words of kindness dear friend. . . cats are indeed beyond wonderful. . . among other things, their purr improves bone density -- layer upon layer of beauty with that one. . . we're in co-evolution with cats, trees, and all life. . beautiful to awaken to.

i had went outside, sat upon a rail, and gazed at the trees, felt the summer breeze, when i realized something i forgot to say--

all afflictive emotions - fear, worry, anger - can be left so far behind they become quite literally nothing.

that's really beautiful :smile:

and simple to share i realized - get out in nature! for all humanity hehe. . . good plan :sun:

i am blessed to live around them too. :smile:

oh - and i didn't mention earlier but - really appreciated your words about how energy all flows to the supreme being --- loved that and also can see so much beauty

:sun:

well, i'm off for a while :smile:  thank you everyone for beauty and awesomeness.  stay cool!

:earth::peace::heart:


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Re: Anxiety [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22368377 - 10/12/15 01:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:smugjerry:


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Roostertail]
    #22368406 - 10/12/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:smugjerry:


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
    #22369611 - 10/12/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
:smugjerry:




You guys picking on me?


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Re: Anxiety [Re: m4dScientist]
    #22369630 - 10/12/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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m4dScientist said:
circastes, let me ask you, what made you decide to use the cpap machine? were you diagnosed with sleep apnea?

if so, what were your symptoms?



Yeah I had the take home test done, all wired up at the pharmacy, looked like a nutjob walking to the car, ended up with a rating of 45 or so where anything above 30 is 'severe sleep apnea'. Symptoms included fatigue and sleepiness right from sun up to sun down, concentration problems, high blood pressure and though it's generally not listed as a symptom I had a feeling of unease that was effectively anxiety, all the time, and waking up choking with a massive heart rate (low oxygen), generally paralysed (sleep paralysis). Oh and irritability and apathy.

Light sleep is possible with sleep apnea but when deep restorative sleep hits all the muscles relax including the muscles that keep your airways open.


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #22369643 - 10/12/15 06:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Recognize it for what it is and clear your mind live in the present momentI suffer from anxiety and The only way To kill it is to face it


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Skribe]
    #22369666 - 10/12/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:nodofunderstanding:

Sounds like what I was saying...


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Re: Anxiety [Re: Grateful Dead]
    #22369672 - 10/12/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cowb0yNeal00 said:
:smugjerry:




You guys picking on me?




:smile: :sun:


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Re: Anxiety [Re: once in a lifetime]
    #22369684 - 10/12/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)



he is beautiful :smile:


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