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Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness?
    #22274968 - 09/22/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hey everyone. Recently I've been thinking that reality is not real. Of course its physical and "real" but it is not an actuality. I believe that the Universe was created by consciousness. Perhaps there was a being of pure energy that decided to experience itself in every way possible and therefor created the universe to understand existence. It is said that everything is interconnected and that may be because we are all in this simulation. Everything is made up of atoms and atoms are basically the pixels of the universe. Why are we really in this simulation? I believe it is to learn, our brain are constantly making new connections everyday but for what? Maybe this reality is a god in training. How is god supposed to be all knowing and understanding if it has no experience and just exists? Wouldn't it have to experience everything ever in order to understand what its capable of?


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22275281 - 09/22/15 05:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the universe is made up of vibrating energy, not all of this energy comes in the form of consciousness


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: 404]
    #22275285 - 09/22/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

to be fair though, i have often pondered this myself.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22275352 - 09/22/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/12680/Its-happening


^ check out that trip report, pretty much aligns with what your saying.


I would say I see the universe much like you describe in OP, thanks to my own experience and research...and the fact that I literally saw it as being this way as described in the TR above.


It is quite interesting that so many people have had similar experiences throughout history with or without the aid of psychedelics..Leary attributed these types of other-worldy experiences and rapture states that have been reported throughout history to the activation of higher brain circuitry, brain circuitry which reveals a consciousness that is beyond the normal worry of survival, mammalian politics, symbolic abstraction, and domestication within the herd (culture mind).

  these next evolutionary steps of consciousness he theorizes, will be the main seat of consciousness for future generations as they begin to colonize other worlds and communicate with non-human intelligences.



You might want to check out Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson or Exo-Psychology for a better introduction to whats being said here.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: hTx]
    #22275413 - 09/22/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I mean, can you really just write off tens of thousands of people who report similar 'hallucinations' as mere coincidence?

Why do so many trippers upon reaching a +5, experience the same basic hallucination i.e; reincarnation, encounters with other-worldly beings, synchronicity...


It boggles my mind that there is so much evidence for 'spiritual' realities and yet, because it is an experience, is completely written off by mainstream scientists.


I've begun recording a few of my trips w/ friends and we have documented quite a few mathematically improbable synchronicities which seem to be induced by our collective altered state of being.

I think that is really the first move towards the phenomena of synchronicity being recognized as empirical..if you happen to be someone or know someone who experiences a lot of synchronicity, especially while tripping, you should begin documenting your trips so as to record and document the phenomena of synchronicity.

From there, we may probably discover some sort of hyper-connected language in the universe and objectively prove the existence of non-human intelligences that manipulate coincidence in order to communicate.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: 404]
    #22275487 - 09/22/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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the universe is made up of vibrating energy, not all of this energy comes in the form of consciousness



True however our minds are made up of neurons which is basically vibrating energy and we're conscious so who's to say that the universe itself isn't conscious? We could all be part of some elaborate fantasy created by an unimaginable force.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22275502 - 09/22/15 06:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nice post.  The language is tricky, but as far as reality not being real (I think I know what you mean), you are not alone.  There is a theory in modern physics called the Holographic principle which, after all the mathematics is worked out, stipulates that the cosmos is the projection of a hologram located at the boundary of spacetime.  The mathematics, which were derived for string theory and quantum gravity, specify that the description of a volume of space can be thought of as encoded on a boundary to the region. 

I like your suggestion that atoms are like the pixels of this hologram.  Information is indeed more fundamental than mass-energy.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22275658 - 09/22/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Two eyes of the same brain looking at something from slightly different angles will create the illusion of dimensions. I think its the overlay of differet perspectives (yin yang, left eye right eye, you me) that produces reality. Because one thing can be infinitely divided creating increasingly more complex possibilities for recombination. There is no such thing as a literal atom. They mutate through replication and divide just like anything... so there is only one number, but 1 halved = 2 and from there anything can happen.

ie:

maybe becomes

no yes becomes

no no
yes yes
no yes
yes no becomes

no no no no
yes yes yes yes
no no no yes
no no yes yes
no yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes
yes yes yes no
yes yes no no
yes no no no and so on

but everything is really still just "maybe"

I did my sums wrong there but I think you get the idea. Vibration is an oscillation between yes and no within the same state of indecision?


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22275678 - 09/22/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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the universe is made up of vibrating energy, not all of this energy comes in the form of consciousness



True however our minds are made up of neurons which is basically vibrating energy and we're conscious so who's to say that the universe itself isn't conscious? We could all be part of some elaborate fantasy created by an unimaginable force.





because not all those atoms make up minds. some, many, make up rocks and such.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: 404]
    #22275782 - 09/22/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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because not all those atoms make up minds. some, many, make up rocks and such.



True


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: hTx]
    #22276033 - 09/22/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I read the report. It was pretty interesting as I myself have experienced a lot of the same things. What has really changed my views has been my experinence with DMT. Nothing has made me so sure that life is only an experience built based on experiences and that we are part of this supernatural system.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22277148 - 09/23/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's all designed. I know sometimes it seems like that would mean some bastard is going to pay after Africa and World War 2 and small pox and AIDS etc. but I don't think it's designed to be a "roadshow" or a "walk in the park" or "God's paradise" I think it's designed for some purpose totally incomprehensible to our primate nervous system. If, however, you have a healthy brain & body and live in the first world, it more or less IS a paradise; life is damn, damn good with these conditions satisfied.

Forget the Creation myths, but this is all designed. It may not even be perfectly designed, it may be hastily designed. But you are living in a mental construct.

Keep your mind open.

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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #22277297 - 09/23/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The first whim to know instantaneously implies a duality, an apparent differentiation (not amounting to a breaking up) into two separate aspects, both of which are infinite as aspects of the Infinite. The first aspect is that of infinite consciousness and the second aspect is that of infinite unconsciousness.  The duality strives to overcome itself and to restore the apparently lost unity: The infinite unconsciousness tries to unite with infinite consciousness. Both aspects are precipitated by the whim. This whim of the Infinite is in a way comparable to an infinite question, calling forth an infinite answer.

With the infinite question, there arises also the infinite answer. The infinite question is infinite unconsciousness; the infinite answer is infinite consciousness. But the infinite question and the infinite answer do not simply annul each other and relapse into the original unity of the Beyond. The two aspects have now descended into the primal duality which can resolve itself only by fulfilling the entire game of duality and not by any shortcut. The infinite unconsciousness cannot overlap on infinite consciousness; such coalescence is impossible.

To reach out towards infinite consciousness  the infinite unconsciousness first has to fathom its own depths. It must experience itself first as infinitely finite, and gradually evolve into limited and limiting consciousness. With the evolution of the limited and limiting consciousness, there is
also the evolution of the illusion which limits this limiting consciousness. The two processes keep pace with each other.

When the infinite unconsciousness tries to reach out to the infinite consciousness, the process is not instantaneous because of the infinite disparity between the two. The process takes an infinitely long time and eternity gets seemingly broken into the unending past, the transient present and the
uncertain future. Instead of embracing the infinite consciousness in one timeless act the infinite unconsciousness reaches out towards it through a long-drawn-out temporal process of evolution, with all of its innumerable steps. It first attempts to fathom its own depths, then by backward treads it seeks and ultimately finds the infinite consciousness through numberless steps, thus fulfilling the whim from the Beyond.

-Beams, p9


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: soldatheero]
    #22277611 - 09/23/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well as carl sagan says we are the universe experiencing itself thats why we are here i think thats a beautiful quote... and i feel like the universe itself could be what i call a cosmic consciousness


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: circastes]
    #22278204 - 09/23/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It's all designed. I know sometimes it seems like that would mean some bastard is going to pay after Africa and World War 2 and small pox and AIDS etc. but I don't think it's designed to be a "roadshow" or a "walk in the park" or "God's paradise" I think it's designed for some purpose totally incomprehensible to our primate nervous system. If, however, you have a healthy brain & body and live in the first world, it more or less IS a paradise; life is damn, damn good with these conditions satisfied.

Forget the Creation myths, but this is all designed. It may not even be perfectly designed, it may be hastily designed. But you are living in a mental construct.

Keep your mind open.

:peace:




"this is all designed"

What would a un-designed universe look like?


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: qman]
    #22278844 - 09/23/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty much the same. It would certainly be filled with people saying it is designed, regardless.


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Re: Perhaps The Universe Was Created By Consciousness? [Re: Tropism]
    #22281993 - 09/24/15 02:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

pulled from the spiritual quotes thread.  made me think of this thread. 

"My brain is only a receiver. In the Universe there is a core from which we obtain knowledge, strength and inspiration. I have not penetrated into the secrets of this core, but I know that it exists."

— Nikola Tesla


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