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Liver damage?
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My uncle says cubensis mushrooms cause liver damage? Any evidence of this?
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zero....I think amanita muscaria has some amotoxins that can be bad for your liver...but no psilocybes that I am aware of.
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That sounds like some left overs from bs scare tactics to me.
Sure eating a ton of mushrooms probably isn't the easiest to process but I imagine it would be hard to damage your liver eating them.
Not to mention if you make tea you will barely be getting any plant matter. I can't see tryptamines being harmful to the liver either but who knows
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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Faustoid]
#22274972 - 09/22/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What is up with this:
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Other species such as Gymnopolis contain Psilocin but also contain other substances with the potential to do liver damage.
I have never heard that, but seen a lot of excited posts from people finding gymns.
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I doubt it'd do any sort of long term damage. The liver is self repairing, and the psychedelic gyms have no fatalities. (at least that I've ever heard of)
But no, magic mushrooms don't cause any sort of liver damage. Alcohol is 100000x worse for your liver.
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Achillita said: I doubt it'd do any sort of long term damage. The liver is self repairing, and the psychedelic gyms have no fatalities. (at least that I've ever heard of)
But no, magic mushrooms don't cause any sort of liver damage. Alcohol is 100000x worse for your liver.
God I would hate to nitpick, but if alcohol was 100000x worse, doesn't that insinuate a level of damage? Though it be minimal still existant based on your logic there?
Lol.. sorry. Long day..
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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Faustoid]
#22275438 - 09/22/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If I give my uncle a heroic dose and tell him to ask the mushroom if it will poison him, is he going to get a response?
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What? Don't give someone who isn't familiar with psyches a heroic dose..
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That is a great way to turn people away from psychs
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He's taken a few doses over the years and recently ive been giving him baby doses, he heard mkenna talk about heroic dose and said that he was missing out and was all for it.
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What have you been giving him?
An 8th of strong cubes can be pretty damn intense, depending on the most he has taken before I would start with that.
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About 1.5 - 2.5 grams per dose
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What are you considering giving him for a "heroic" dose? Or what is he interested in taking?
Just curious so I can offer any advice that may be needed. Sounds like you have worked him up to it though, I still think 3.5 might be a good next step.
Have you used one steady source or used different shrooms with varying potency?
Just wondering becouse I have had 8ths get me decently high or straight melt my face off part of why I don't advise dosing higher unless prepared.
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musiclover420 said: What are you considering giving him for a "heroic" dose? Or what is he interested in taking?
Just curious so I can offer any advice that may be needed. Sounds like you have worked him up to it though, I still think 3.5 might be a good next step.
Have you used one steady source or used different shrooms with varying potency?
Just wondering becouse I have had 8ths get me decently high or straight melt my face off part of why I don't advise dosing higher unless prepared.
...the variance is crazy....man...those Thai shrooms... !
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Working with a spore syringe at the moment, but I have a LC that's developing quite nicely, hopefully it produces a bunch of potent albinos. Considering that they're variables at the moment, I don't think 5 grams is completely out of the question.
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5 grams could be a huge jump but I would consider shrooms one of the more forgiving psychs as long as they are not abused.
Be sure to let us know how it goes whenever it happens, I need to start lurking around the PE more
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I told him to just relax alone in the dark cool room and take lots of dabs.
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Dabs for me can cause more anxiety then smoking bud due to the high thc, might be something to consider.
Could be smart to hold off on much dabs til after the peak 
Everyone is different though.
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He loves them, sativas because he has adhd, they mellow him out.
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That's funny becouse I am literally the opposite.
I get really stoned on high thc strains or dabs and it makes me feel like I have ADHD, which goes terrible with tripping sometimes.
Over analyzing stuff sucks especially when you are in such a crazy head space.
I took some high thc dabs on a decent harmala dose (the maoi's in Syrian Rue) and had some pretty intense hallucinations just from the combo.
I had taken a bit of a tolerance break though. I was crazy stimulated, but the harmalas helped relax me a bit and guided me towards meditating.
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Hybrids are better suited for tripping. A full on Sativa can induce crazy visuals n might throw him off tripping again.
TBH, Hybrids are just better altogether for any situation, just go dominant on the sativa for visuals and faster thoughts and dominant on the indica for the comedown.
I recommend:
Sativa dom: Amnesia Haze / Blue Dream sat. phenotype Indica dom: Blue Cheese / Blue Dream ind. phenotype
Easy strains to get too, don't give him a heroic dose either, chuck him 3g of cubes, ease him into it man.
I went in full blast n ate 40 liberty cap aborts and now i even get paranoid n stuff off just 0.6g of libs (1g) cubes roughly.
It can ruin the experience for him, i'ts been really hard for me to get back into tripping again, i'm only just easing back in now after over a year.
yeah, it's really that bad, if the visuals and audio is unexpected he will end up on a bad trip, not good man, give him 3g imo then up it to 4 next time.
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Same here, but a good day time strain, makes life brighter.
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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Blazeyy]
#22277011 - 09/22/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Adhd brains have different reactions to sativas apparently. Explains a lot.
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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Blazeyy]
#22277171 - 09/23/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Blazeyy said: don't give him a heroic dose either, chuck him 3g of cubes, ease him into it man.
I went in full blast n ate 40 liberty cap aborts and now i even get paranoid n stuff off just 0.6g of libs (1g) cubes roughly.
It can ruin the experience for him, i'ts been really hard for me to get back into tripping again, i'm only just easing back in now after over a year.
yeah, it's really that bad, if the visuals and audio is unexpected he will end up on a bad trip, not good man, give him 3g imo then up it to 4 next time.
Good advice I can't wait to find libs one day, they have always interested me.
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YaMoonSun said: I told him to just relax alone in the dark cool room and take lots of dabs.
....dabs r so fucking gross when tripping!....yuck....can't stand it....
.tons and tons and tons of str8 bud!...I grow the chronic so I got plenty...no need for dabs....I'll sip n2o if I wanna blast!
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Depends on the dab quality I suppose
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YaMoonSun said: Depends on the dab quality I suppose 
....personally...it's just too harsh on shrooms...maybe a Lil piece on top of weed...imho.....
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Ever hit a vaporizer?
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YaMoonSun said: My uncle says cubensis mushrooms cause liver damage? Any evidence of this?
No.
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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Faustoid]
#22278811 - 09/23/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Faustoid said: http://www.shroomery.org/8763/Do-hallucinogenic-mushrooms-cause-liver-damage
I think instead of "Gymnopolis" it should say "Gymnopilus" ?
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YaMoonSun said: Ever hit a vaporizer?
...not tripping....weed just tastes so freaking good..
....namaste!
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YaMoonSun said: My uncle says cubensis mushrooms cause liver damage? Any evidence of this?
you are one of the few who post here who even give a damn whether something is going to wreck kidneys,liver, heart,brain, etc. Or should I say "seem" to give a damn. Well, let's hope you do.
I would say, instead of posing this question to a forum dedicated to the use of these mushrooms, you should go to a more neutral source first. Then come back with what you've learned and start a discussion.
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The thing is, there has been tests. And use for thousands of years with no signs of liver damage.
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Achillita said: The thing is, there has been tests. And use for thousands of years with no signs of liver damage.
They have not been tested to any extent at all, by scientific standards, because of the goofy freeze that all world governments have placed on use and research of this substance. Really, it takes decades of hard looking to really find this stuff out.
As for those who have used it for thousands of years--well, there are a lot of questions to be asked of them: How often, in what manner, how much, when, in conjunction with what other practices, etc, etc..
What I am trying to say is: We don't really know. It seems likely that the damage, if any, is at least balanaced by the psychological benefits. Like everything, it is a trade-off.
So many people on this site are likke people who buy a stock and then close their ears to any news but the good news about it. I'll let you do the extrapolation.
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Oh shit man,
This is moronic, not the forum, the assumption. Yes, the LDL50 limits have been tested, as well as the safety; no, there is no liver damage from these substances. Just look it up rather than assuming. If you have poor liver function you will have trouble breaking down the actives. But that has nothing to do with the drugs themselves.
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In one study, administration of gradually increasing dosages of psilocybin daily for 21 days had no measurable effect on electrolyte levels, blood sugar levels, or liver toxicity tests.[1]
[1] Passie T, Seifert J, Schneider U, Emrich HM. (2002). "The pharmacology of psilocybin". Addiction Biology 7 (4): 357–64. doi:10.1080/1355621021000005937. PMID 14578010.
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Thanks primal soup.
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PrimalSoup said: Oh shit man,
This is moronic, not the forum, the assumption. Yes, the LDL50 limits have been tested, as well as the safety; no, there is no liver damage from these substances. Just look it up rather than assuming. If you have poor liver function you will have trouble breaking down the actives. But that has nothing to do with the drugs themselves.
Wiki:
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In one study, administration of gradually increasing dosages of psilocybin daily for 21 days had no measurable effect on electrolyte levels, blood sugar levels, or liver toxicity tests.[1]
[1] Passie T, Seifert J, Schneider U, Emrich HM. (2002). "The pharmacology of psilocybin". Addiction Biology 7 (4): 357–64. doi:10.1080/1355621021000005937. PMID 14578010.
The operative phrase: One study. That is the place where the ears shut. Now we definitely know! One study! You are naive beyond belief if you think science ends there. Studies come along and contradict other studies. And all these studies taken together start to give a picture a readable image, an image of which each study might be said to be a single pixel. When science is free to act and there is enough interest--think cholesterol, which has gone from being a devil to almost a saint.
I am not saying psilolcybin is liver damaging. As you say, there is as yet no evidence. I am saying that there has been so little work done on it, that the evidence we have is not sufficient to say anything for sure. But, of course, I WANT it to to be good for me, there fore it is! So, case closed. I will take it till I bust! Fuck everyone who tells me nay, go soft, stay on the side of moderation.
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hey ive heard that ,a dude i used to work with 4-5 years ago , said he fucked his liver because of a like 1month everyday binge on shroom back in his days.
didnt know much about shroom at the time ,just said like sucks man.
but really the dude is a huge alchoolic still was when i was working with him , was from the early 90s pill poper raver generation too, last time i saw him it was in a rehab center last year , while i was visiting a friend there.
so really cant take this as evidence, but still its weird. anyhow ill never do 30 days of shrooms straight ,sounds
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They have not been tested to any extent at all, by scientific standards
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The operative phrase: One study. That is the place where the ears shut. Now we definitely know! One study!

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You are naive beyond belief if you think science ends there.
Who said that? Besides you implying it of course 
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there is as yet no evidence
It may not be "scientific" evidence but people using them for thousands of years is actually evidence of their safety. Generally after that long of a history of use many of the pro's and con's of something become apparent. Clearly not all of them but its not like mushrooms are some new crazy thing that could wreck your liver... Even if they are remotely hard on the liver so many commonly abused things are much much worse.
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PrimalSoup said: Oh shit man,
This is moronic, not the forum, the assumption. Yes, the LDL50 limits have been tested, as well as the safety; no, there is no liver damage from these substances. Just look it up rather than assuming. If you have poor liver function you will have trouble breaking down the actives. But that has nothing to do with the drugs themselves.
Wiki:
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In one study, administration of gradually increasing dosages of psilocybin daily for 21 days had no measurable effect on electrolyte levels, blood sugar levels, or liver toxicity tests.[1]
[1] Passie T, Seifert J, Schneider U, Emrich HM. (2002). "The pharmacology of psilocybin". Addiction Biology 7 (4): 357–64. doi:10.1080/1355621021000005937. PMID 14578010.
The operative phrase: One study. That is the place where the ears shut. Now we definitely know! One study! You are naive beyond belief if you think science ends there. Studies come along and contradict other studies. And all these studies taken together start to give a picture a readable image, an image of which each study might be said to be a single pixel. When science is free to act and there is enough interest--think cholesterol, which has gone from being a devil to almost a saint.
I am not saying psilolcybin is liver damaging. As you say, there is as yet no evidence. I am saying that there has been so little work done on it, that the evidence we have is not sufficient to say anything for sure. But, of course, I WANT it to to be good for me, there fore it is! So, case closed. I will take it till I bust! Fuck everyone who tells me nay, go soft, stay on the side of moderation.
Just fuck off with your BS. There's no anectodal evidence, no empirical evidence, no historical evidence, no evidence from folklore. It's stupid to assume a negative with no evidence, and it's stupid to present an argument from ignorance and expect anybody to take it seriously at all.
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voodoochild1000 said: FUCK YEAH PS!!...TO THE MAX
Good. You are one of the ones who are going to find out. Who knows, maybe you will find something truly great.
As for me...I eagerly await your report.
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voodoochild1000 said: FUCK YEAH PS!!...TO THE MAX
Good. You are one of the ones who are going to find out. Who knows, maybe you will find something truly great.
As for me...I eagerly await your report.
-------------------- ....."So Great!"....-Me on 1.5mg LSD ...."We don't need this" -Larkin in response to my "just picked wild LSD!" post
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