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OfflineYaMoonSun
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Liver damage?
    #22274906 - 09/22/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My uncle says cubensis mushrooms cause liver damage? Any evidence of this?


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22274929 - 09/22/15 04:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

zero....I think amanita muscaria has some amotoxins that can be bad for your liver...but no psilocybes that I am aware of.


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22274941 - 09/22/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That sounds like some left overs from bs scare tactics to me.

Sure eating a ton of mushrooms probably isn't the easiest to process but I imagine it would be hard to damage your liver eating them.

Not to mention if you make tea you will barely be getting any plant matter. I can't see tryptamines being harmful to the liver either but who knows :shrug:


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22274942 - 09/22/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Faustoid]
    #22274972 - 09/22/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What is up with this:

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Other species such as Gymnopolis contain Psilocin but also contain other substances with the potential to do liver damage.




I have never heard that, but seen a lot of excited posts from people finding gymns.


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22275089 - 09/22/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt it'd do any sort of long term damage. The liver is self repairing, and the psychedelic gyms have no fatalities. (at least that I've ever heard of)

But no, magic mushrooms don't cause any sort of liver damage. Alcohol is 100000x worse for your liver.


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Achillita]
    #22275315 - 09/22/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Achillita said:
I doubt it'd do any sort of long term damage. The liver is self repairing, and the psychedelic gyms have no fatalities. (at least that I've ever heard of)

But no, magic mushrooms don't cause any sort of liver damage. Alcohol is 100000x worse for your liver.




God I would hate to nitpick, but if alcohol was 100000x worse, doesn't that insinuate a level of damage? Though it be minimal still existant based on your logic there?

Lol.. sorry. Long day..


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Faustoid]
    #22275438 - 09/22/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If I give my uncle a heroic dose and tell him to ask the mushroom if it will poison him, is he going to get a response?


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22275524 - 09/22/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What? Don't give someone who isn't familiar with psyches a heroic dose..


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Achillita]
    #22275831 - 09/22/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:whathesaid:

That is a great way to turn people away from psychs :sad:


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: Achillita]
    #22275853 - 09/22/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

He's taken a few doses over the years and recently ive been giving him baby doses, he heard mkenna talk about heroic dose and said that he was missing out and was all for it.


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22275925 - 09/22/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What have you been giving him?

An 8th of strong cubes can be pretty damn intense, depending on the most he has taken before I would start with that.


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I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Liver damage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22275941 - 09/22/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

About 1.5 - 2.5 grams per dose


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22275978 - 09/22/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What are you considering giving him for a "heroic" dose? Or what is he interested in taking?

Just curious so I can offer any advice that may be needed. Sounds like you have worked him up to it though, I still think 3.5 might be a good next step.

Have you used one steady source or used different shrooms with varying potency?

Just wondering becouse I have had 8ths get me decently high or straight melt my face off :lol: part of why I don't advise dosing higher unless prepared.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Liver damage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22276115 - 09/22/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

musiclover420 said:
What are you considering giving him for a "heroic" dose? Or what is he interested in taking?

Just curious so I can offer any advice that may be needed. Sounds like you have worked him up to it though, I still think 3.5 might be a good next step.

Have you used one steady source or used different shrooms with varying potency?

Just wondering becouse I have had 8ths get me decently high or straight melt my face off :lol: part of why I don't advise dosing higher unless prepared.




...the variance is crazy....man...those Thai shrooms...:trippnballs:!


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22276143 - 09/22/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Working with a spore syringe at the moment, but I have a LC that's developing quite nicely, hopefully it produces a bunch of potent albinos. Considering that they're variables at the moment, I don't think 5 grams is completely out of the question.


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22276454 - 09/22/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:thumbup:

5 grams could be a huge jump but I would consider shrooms one of the more forgiving psychs as long as they are not abused.

Be sure to let us know how it goes whenever it happens, I need to start lurking around the PE more :lol:


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22276504 - 09/22/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I told him to just relax alone in the dark cool room and take lots of dabs.


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Re: Liver damage? [Re: YaMoonSun]
    #22276528 - 09/22/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Dabs for me can cause more anxiety then smoking bud due to the high thc, might be something to consider.

Could be smart to hold off on much dabs til after the peak :shrug:

Everyone is different though.


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You know how it feels, With the breeze of the sun in your eyes. Not minding that time's passing by

I've got all and more, My smile, just as before. Is all that I carry with me

I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Liver damage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22276534 - 09/22/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

He loves them, sativas because he has adhd, they mellow him out.


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