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Ate Shrooms- HELP
    #22274757 - 09/22/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, so i ate shrooms for the second time around a month and a week ago. I didn't really know a lot about it but it was confirmed that these were the "penis evy" strain. After ingesting these, I felt good for probably like 2 hours, then my stomach started hurting beyond belief, my legs were really weak, I threw them up and felt better, it was just a awful experience. Anyways, going forward. Im a month and a week in, and I have had lower back problems/pains, lower stomach pains, upper stomach pains, feelings of anxiousness, cloudy mind,just to name a few. I have been to the doctor in fears that I ate a bad strain and Ive had 2 urine tests to test to make sure my internals were fine. Everything came back fine, including some blood work. I had the first urine and blood test like 2-3 days after ingesting them. Then I had another urine sample taken again around 2 weeks after. Everything again is fine.... Now im a month and a week in, and my stomach pains continue. Im planning on getting another urine test, as well as getting ultra sounds done on my stomach. Does anyone have any advice as to what could be happening to me?


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: lehurtch]
    #22274803 - 09/22/15 03:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have any underlying anxiety issues/neuroses?  Sounds like it's in your head.  If your doc says you're fine, you're fine.  You may not be the type of person who should do psychedelics.  Watch your diet, exercise and eat healthy, your GI will bounce back.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22274926 - 09/22/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Were the mushrooms fresh or dried...what was their smell like? They could have had a bacteria clinging to them...maybe a mold:shrug:


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #22274962 - 09/22/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The pain is definitely there. I just want to know what is causing it.... I do have anxiety in my family though. I understand that some of my symptoms may be caused just mentally. However, my stomach pain and stuff is very real. Its driving me crazy haha


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: lehurtch]
    #22275158 - 09/22/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Then yeah, maybe some bacteria or mold were on the mushrooms. PE are pretty thick, if the grower didn't dry them out properly than you could have gotten food poisoning.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22275197 - 09/22/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I am going to go get ultrasounds on my stomach at the end of the week just to be safe. I was just wondering if anyone was aware of a certain mold or something that may have been on the shrooms that I could inquire to the doctor about? I just want to make sure my body is safe, I have just felt so different since I took them. I am no stranger to psychedelics, and i have never been affected like this by anything that I have ever taken.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22275198 - 09/22/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Perhaps your ailments are unrelated to the muahrooms?


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: Couperj]
    #22277369 - 09/23/15 03:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe you've got or are on the way to an ulcer.

Could try taking baking soda at least 2 hours before and 2 hours after a meal. If it helps, then that would sound like you've got too much acid (hcl) in your stomach.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: endogenous]
    #22277387 - 09/23/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Too much and too little stomach acid cause the same symptoms with only a slight difference in that too much acid causes hunger and too little will make you nauseous and gassy.

I don't think that's the problem with OP or he would have exacerbated symptoms following eating instead of a chronic pain that reaches his lower back.

Maybe you were allergic to something the cultivator used in his substrate? The shrooms themselves? Or an underlying problem that got irritated by the indigestible shroom material


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: lehurtch]
    #22278450 - 09/23/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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lehurtch said:
The pain is definitely there. I just want to know what is causing it.... I do have anxiety in my family though. I understand that some of my symptoms may be caused just mentally. However, my stomach pain and stuff is very real. Its driving me crazy haha




The mushrooms had nothing to do with this. See a better doctor, sounds more like peptic ulcer.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: lehurtch]
    #22278509 - 09/23/15 12:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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lehurtch said:
Okay, so i ate shrooms for the second time around a month and a week ago. I didn't really know a lot about it but it was confirmed that these were the "penis evy" strain. After ingesting these, I felt good for probably like 2 hours, then my stomach started hurting beyond belief, my legs were really weak, I threw them up and felt better, it was just a awful experience. Anyways, going forward. Im a month and a week in, and I have had lower back problems/pains, lower stomach pains, upper stomach pains, feelings of anxiousness, cloudy mind,just to name a few. I have been to the doctor in fears that I ate a bad strain and Ive had 2 urine tests to test to make sure my internals were fine. Everything came back fine, including some blood work. I had the first urine and blood test like 2-3 days after ingesting them. Then I had another urine sample taken again around 2 weeks after. Everything again is fine.... Now im a month and a week in, and my stomach pains continue. Im planning on getting another urine test, as well as getting ultra sounds done on my stomach. Does anyone have any advice as to what could be happening to me?




You should never eat psilocybin mushrooms. They will surely give you a belly ache. Make tea. Make tea. Make tea. And strain out all the flesh and discard it. But, the business of the belly ache lasting a month--that shouldn't be happening.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: champinhom]
    #22279732 - 09/23/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You should never eat psilocybin mushrooms. They will surely give you a belly ache. Make tea




smh. Ridiculous post.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: Zulu The Most High]
    #22279737 - 09/23/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Perhaps your ailments are unrelated to the muahrooms?




This. Have you been stressed lately?

Have you tried taking some pepto bismol or something to see if it helps?


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: lehurtch]
    #22281195 - 09/23/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes I get a super heavy body load on the come up. I feel super heavy/wobbly and even slightly shakey. It's hard to walk and hard to stay still.
It's really uncomfortable.

I find that listening to guided meditation videos and participating helps get your mind off it. I've never felt nauseous or in pain though


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: Zulu The Most High]
    #22281316 - 09/23/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You should never eat psilocybin mushrooms. They will surely give you a belly ache. Make tea




smh. Ridiculous post.




I agree, I eat mushrooms all the time and never get a belly ache. Mushrooms were intended by God to eaten in my opinion. In fact, it is my personal belief they are easier on the stomach than other forms of mushrooms.

For example, wild mushrooms are known to cause stomach upsets in inexperienced people eating too many. Example, one time I went moral hunting, cooked up a whole bunch of morels and had them for dinner. Boy did I get an upset stomach that night. I have learned that when I pick morels, I need to limit my dosage because they upset my stomach if I eat too many evn when thorougly cooked.

Now psilocybin on the other hand, I never cook 'em and I eat more than I ate morels I think. I dunno, didnt weigh the morels but the point is I dont get sick of the psilocybin mushrooms even without cooking them.

I believe psilocybin mushrooms are our friends and were created by God with the intention for them to be ingested, so spiritually ill people might be shown how to heal.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22281573 - 09/23/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Zulu The Most High said:
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You should never eat psilocybin mushrooms. They will surely give you a belly ache. Make tea




smh. Ridiculous post.




I agree, I eat mushrooms all the time and never get a belly ache. Mushrooms were intended by God to eaten in my opinion. In fact, it is my personal belief they are easier on the stomach than other forms of mushrooms.

For example, wild mushrooms are known to cause stomach upsets in inexperienced people eating too many. Example, one time I went moral hunting, cooked up a whole bunch of morels and had them for dinner. Boy did I get an upset stomach that night. I have learned that when I pick morels, I need to limit my dosage because they upset my stomach if I eat too many evn when thorougly cooked.

Now psilocybin on the other hand, I never cook 'em and I eat more than I ate morels I think. I dunno, didnt weigh the morels but the point is I dont get sick of the psilocybin mushrooms even without cooking them.

I believe psilocybin mushrooms are our friends and were created by God with the intention for them to be ingested, so spiritually ill people might be shown how to heal.




All wild mushrooms should be cooked thoroughly before consumption, eating raw morels is just straight up toxic because they contain trace amounts of hydrazine and if you don't cook them enough they'll be mildly poisonous.  The first time you eat any wild mushroom you should limit quantities and eating too many mushrooms without some other ingredients like rice or pasta to buffer them will cause GI upset regardless of the species.   

Some of my worst trips were after eating mushrooms, they upset my stomach terribly and I was too distracted by the nausea, vomiting and pain to get much out of the trip.  In fact, I didn't even have a spiritual, numinous experience on mushrooms until the first time I took tea because the body load was so distracting.  All the times I ate them it was always a struggle to choke them down without puking and then my stomach felt like shit all night.

Some people have different sensitivities, I for one recommend tea and do it myself 100% of the time, mushrooms are a very spiritual experience if you approach them with the right mentality and create the right environment, method of consumption doesn't matter so long as it is one that agrees with your body.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: godisamushroom]
    #22281918 - 09/24/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Too much and too little stomach acid cause the same symptoms with only a slight difference in that too much acid causes hunger and too little will make you nauseous and gassy.

I don't think that's the problem with OP or he would have exacerbated symptoms following eating instead of a chronic pain that reaches his lower back.

Maybe you were allergic to something the cultivator used in his substrate? The shrooms themselves? Or an underlying problem that got irritated by the indigestible shroom material



Lower back pains could be a sign that too much acidity is causing loss of calcium.

Holistic doctors have a test for stomach acid called the Heidelberg test. You swallow a device that measures the pH and sends a signal out to a remote device.

A less expensive way would be to buy some pH papers and measure urine every 6 hours or so. Pharmacies carry these. If the urine pH keeps being below 6.2, it's too acidic.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: endogenous]
    #22281948 - 09/24/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder what causes so many people to vomit after eating Mushrooms. Could it be that the Mushrooms have started to grow mold which is producing acidity?

It seems the pH of Psilocybin (in a water/ethanol mix) is around 5.2, which is somewhat acidic. (Vinegar is around 2.9)


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: endogenous]
    #22281983 - 09/24/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I wonder what causes so many people to vomit after eating Mushrooms. Could it be that the Mushrooms have started to grow mold which is producing acidity?

It seems the pH of Psilocybin (in a water/ethanol mix) is around 5.2, which is somewhat acidic. (Vinegar is around 2.9)




Because they eat a lot of indigestible material on top of taking a drug that can cause nausea just on its own. The result is often vomiting. It never really bothered me. You vomit, feel a million times better, and trip on.


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Re: Ate Shrooms- HELP [Re: LSDreamer]
    #22286928 - 09/25/15 02:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This is from a WebMD article on peptic ulcers:  http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/tc/peptic-ulcer-disease-topic-overview

A burning, aching, or gnawing pain between the belly button (navel) and the breastbone. Some people also have back pain. The pain can last from a few minutes to a few hours and may come and go for weeks.


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