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Do you think I pulled it off?
    #22273227 - 09/22/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good morning shroomery I hope you are all well.

So Ilong story short I got offered a sweet job and had to take a piss test for it., there was no effin way I was gunna pass and it was in like a week.

So of course I did the substitution method from a clean buddy( who I know is for forsure clean )
Ran test runs and used a plastic bottle under the ballsack, shit would hold temp for like an hour.
I went did all this shit this morning and it went perfect I was in and out of there in like 10 mins, and I got the pee about 10-15 before that.

I've heard that if you don't get the temp right they don't even take it so since she accepted it did I pull it off?
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22273235 - 09/22/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I think you're good.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22273236 - 09/22/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The temp gauge is on the cup or stick whichever they use. If they were going to refuse the sample because of temp, they'd of done it then and there. I've actually had piss come out of me that wasn't hot enough and had to do it over. Not a big deal when it doesn't come out right, because it happens even when you do things as you're supposed to. They just tell you to do it again.

If the sample was accepted, you're clear on that end. Now you just gotta worry whether your friend was full of shit.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22273238 - 09/22/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You passed for sure if your friend who you got the piss from was clean.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: Magicman69]
    #22273249 - 09/22/15 09:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I know for sure he is clean I live with him lol
He hasn't been smoking for few months


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22273268 - 09/22/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys now I play the waiting game....


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22284882 - 09/24/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I haven't heard anything back and we had planned on a Monday start with orientation at 3.

So if I failed you think they would have contacted me by now?


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22284887 - 09/24/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

good luck bro. But what is with all these piss tests? It makes me sick that some jobs actually require this


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22284890 - 09/24/15 05:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah you're good to go bro

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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice] * 1
    #22284897 - 09/24/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good job man! :toast: I get randoms where I work, so I just don't smoke. I'm looking for a new job though where I can.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22284917 - 09/24/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I substituted so I was smoking anyways lol

My start date is Monday so if I failed they would have told me by now right?


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22284931 - 09/24/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The temp gauge is on the cup or stick whichever they use. If they were going to refuse the sample because of temp, they'd of done it then and there. I've actually had piss come out of me that wasn't hot enough and had to do it over.





I feel so sorry for you guys, thats downright humiliating :sad:


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: Asante]
    #22284942 - 09/24/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

drug laws, LOL.







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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22284949 - 09/24/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I'm pretty confident I passed, everything I'm reading is saying they can tell if you failed pretty quick and they usually tell you right away. Basically no news is good news I guess.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22284986 - 09/24/15 05:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

they could also just not tell you anything at all, couldn't they?


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: Asante]
    #22285003 - 09/24/15 05:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The temp gauge is on the cup or stick whichever they use. If they were going to refuse the sample because of temp, they'd of done it then and there. I've actually had piss come out of me that wasn't hot enough and had to do it over.





I feel so sorry for you guys, thats downright humiliating :sad:




It is FUCKED it just doesn't really exist in the UK, at least not for employment. I think cops MAY get done every now and then, but never something you hear about.

I get tested for my methadone/subutex script and there is no temp check at all. I make my own out of filtered water, yellow food colouring and a drop of whatever script I am on, never failed.. I think the tests they use in the States are WAY more expensive/accurate. I use fairly warm water and wrap foil around it to keep the temp up a bit, but that is just for show, so there is a little condensation in the bottle etc. It's so easy here, I know when I will be tested, and it's only once every 2-3 months at the most. Some of you guys live in a police state, but you also have legal weed... What a weird situation.

Also if they need to test your piss to tell if you're taking drugs, they can't be effecting your work too much, right??



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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22285017 - 09/24/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What do you mean? If they don't tell me anything tomarrow I'm assuming I got it. It would be kind of messed up if they gave me a start date and when I showed up told me I failed my drug test.
And it's a pre-employment drug test. I don't already work there.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22285039 - 09/24/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

why would they have to inform you of anything? an offer doesn't mean that you've got the job, you have to piss clean first, and maybe you didn't and their just like "ok gotta find someone other than this guy".

i hope not. but if you pissed and you had pot in your system from smoking recently like you say, then i wouldn't get your hopes up. i'd be getting ready for an either/or scenario.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22285065 - 09/24/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:justno:


Lol dude did you even read my post?
First off i didn't use my own piss.
Secondly I already have the job my start day is Monday with orientation at 3 pending a background check and drug screen.
So since they told me to come in and start obviously they would have to inform me I didn't get the job and not just " look for someone else".


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22285080 - 09/24/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i read it very quickly, i apologize. i missed that you got your friend to cop some piss for you. i just saw that you hadn't a chance to piss clean, and i was wondering why the hell you'd even bother.

wtf, then don't worry man.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #22285104 - 09/24/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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...Also if they need to test your piss to tell if you're taking drugs, they can't be effecting your work too much, right??




Yep, you hit the nail on the head. If you do your job well then why do they need to test?

The reason they do it so much in the states is because of insurance reasons. Insurance companies think of drug users as liabilities and won't cover the business if something goes wrong etc. It's a bunch of bullshit based on capitalism and money.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22285107 - 09/24/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Was your friend for sure clean for a few months? I'm at 45 days clean and still failing some tests. I bought a bunch of at home tests and the only ones I've passed so far are where I've diluted my piss quite a bit.

If you look into it it's actually true that for heavy smokers it can take up to like 100+ days for their piss to be clean.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #22285121 - 09/24/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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...Also if they need to test your piss to tell if you're taking drugs, they can't be effecting your work too much, right??




Yep, you hit the nail on the head. If you do your job well then why do they need to test?

The reason they do it so much in the states is because of insurance reasons. Insurance companies think of drug users as liabilities and won't cover the business if something goes wrong etc. It's a bunch of bullshit based on capitalism and money.




The financial angle, sadly, makes sense. I am glad we live in a slightly less litigious society over here, shame everything else sucks so much.......

Win some, lose some I guess.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: egodeathflux]
    #22285127 - 09/24/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, it fucking sucks. But, I live here and have to deal with this bullshit.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22285130 - 09/24/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yea he is clean, he was a moderate smoker to begin with once every few days/ once a week even) and had only smoked once in the last two months prior to the test. He does take anti anxiety meds that might have to be explained


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice] * 1
    #22285143 - 09/24/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

no script, but hey i'm stressed!


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22285147 - 09/24/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've pissed in cups for multiple dumbasses and they passed.


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    #22285162 - 09/24/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's the only shit I'm worried about, I seriously doubt he has any THC in his system.


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22285216 - 09/24/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If they test for benzos and you don't have a script yourself for them, you might still be questioned or asked to test again.


What kind of anti anxiety meds is he on? Is it a benzodiazepine?


Good luck. Did you know about the start date and orientation time before you took the test, or did they call and notify you of that after taking it?


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    #22285231 - 09/24/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Benzo's can stay in your system for weeks/months, you could say you were on a short course previously if that came up. They give them out for sleep problems etc, you wouldn't need an elaborate story or anything.


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    #22285251 - 09/24/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'll look them up in a second, but yes I went in for an interview on Monday, it didn't take long for her to offer me a job and I was filling out tons of paperwork, w4 and i9 forms. She said I would like to offer you a job and we took a tour. So she said I start Monday pending the drug test.


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    #22285283 - 09/24/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Venlafaxine and hydroxyzidine and he has a very low dose level.

Looks like they are not benzos but I'm not sure what the hell they are


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    #22285322 - 09/24/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

they probably don't even test for those really.


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    #22285352 - 09/24/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Venlafaxine is an antidepressant and hydroxyzine a sedative antiallergic.

They dont test for that, they are not recreational.


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    #22285366 - 09/24/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's not on the standard 5 panel drug screen,
But it could give a false positive which would require it to go to the lab to figure out what it is. Either way these drugs are " legal" and if it shows up I feel like I can talk my way out of it. One of them is an antihistamine lol I could say I had allergies.


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    #22285391 - 09/24/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks a lot Asante and everybody, I'll know forsure by Monday!


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    #22285401 - 09/24/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't sweat it, you'll be fine. No reason to test for that kind of med, even if they did, it's not something that would trigger any alarm bells or raise suspicion about your personal life.


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    #22285905 - 09/24/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Benzo's can stay in your system for weeks/months, you could say you were on a short course previously if that came up. They give them out for sleep problems etc, you wouldn't need an elaborate story or anything.




Source? Even some of the longer acting benzos have a half-life of ~80 hrs.


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    #22285912 - 09/24/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I really doubt those would even cause a false positive for anything.

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Benzo's can stay in your system for weeks/months, you could say you were on a short course previously if that came up. They give them out for sleep problems etc, you wouldn't need an elaborate story or anything.




Source? Even some of the longer acting benzos have a half-life of ~80 hrs.




Source is drug tests I have taken. Benzo metabolites sit in fat tissue, same way cannabis stays in the system far longer than the half-life. In fact pretty much every drug stays in the system far longer than the half-life, heroin certainly doesn't carry on working for 3-7 days..

I have tested positive for benzos (usually valium) 3-4 weeks after last taking it.

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