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4HO-DMT


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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: egodeathflux]
#22285104 - 09/24/15 05:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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egodeathflux said: ...Also if they need to test your piss to tell if you're taking drugs, they can't be effecting your work too much, right??
Yep, you hit the nail on the head. If you do your job well then why do they need to test?
The reason they do it so much in the states is because of insurance reasons. Insurance companies think of drug users as liabilities and won't cover the business if something goes wrong etc. It's a bunch of bullshit based on capitalism and money.
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sh4d0ws
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Was your friend for sure clean for a few months? I'm at 45 days clean and still failing some tests. I bought a bunch of at home tests and the only ones I've passed so far are where I've diluted my piss quite a bit.
If you look into it it's actually true that for heavy smokers it can take up to like 100+ days for their piss to be clean.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22285121 - 09/24/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said:
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egodeathflux said: ...Also if they need to test your piss to tell if you're taking drugs, they can't be effecting your work too much, right??
Yep, you hit the nail on the head. If you do your job well then why do they need to test?
The reason they do it so much in the states is because of insurance reasons. Insurance companies think of drug users as liabilities and won't cover the business if something goes wrong etc. It's a bunch of bullshit based on capitalism and money.
The financial angle, sadly, makes sense. I am glad we live in a slightly less litigious society over here, shame everything else sucks so much.......
Win some, lose some I guess.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: egodeathflux]
#22285127 - 09/24/15 05:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, it fucking sucks. But, I live here and have to deal with this bullshit.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22285130 - 09/24/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea he is clean, he was a moderate smoker to begin with once every few days/ once a week even) and had only smoked once in the last two months prior to the test. He does take anti anxiety meds that might have to be explained
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no script, but hey i'm stressed!
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I've pissed in cups for multiple dumbasses and they passed.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22285162 - 09/24/15 05:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's the only shit I'm worried about, I seriously doubt he has any THC in his system.
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sh4d0ws
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If they test for benzos and you don't have a script yourself for them, you might still be questioned or asked to test again.
What kind of anti anxiety meds is he on? Is it a benzodiazepine?
Good luck. Did you know about the start date and orientation time before you took the test, or did they call and notify you of that after taking it?
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22285231 - 09/24/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Benzo's can stay in your system for weeks/months, you could say you were on a short course previously if that came up. They give them out for sleep problems etc, you wouldn't need an elaborate story or anything.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22285251 - 09/24/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll look them up in a second, but yes I went in for an interview on Monday, it didn't take long for her to offer me a job and I was filling out tons of paperwork, w4 and i9 forms. She said I would like to offer you a job and we took a tour. So she said I start Monday pending the drug test.
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Venlafaxine and hydroxyzidine and he has a very low dose level.
Looks like they are not benzos but I'm not sure what the hell they are
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akira_akuma
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they probably don't even test for those really.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22285352 - 09/24/15 06:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Venlafaxine is an antidepressant and hydroxyzine a sedative antiallergic.
They dont test for that, they are not recreational.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: akira_akuma]
#22285366 - 09/24/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not on the standard 5 panel drug screen, But it could give a false positive which would require it to go to the lab to figure out what it is. Either way these drugs are " legal" and if it shows up I feel like I can talk my way out of it. One of them is an antihistamine lol I could say I had allergies.
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Thanks a lot Asante and everybody, I'll know forsure by Monday!
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Don't sweat it, you'll be fine. No reason to test for that kind of med, even if they did, it's not something that would trigger any alarm bells or raise suspicion about your personal life.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: egodeathflux]
#22285905 - 09/24/15 08:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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egodeathflux said: Benzo's can stay in your system for weeks/months, you could say you were on a short course previously if that came up. They give them out for sleep problems etc, you wouldn't need an elaborate story or anything.
Source? Even some of the longer acting benzos have a half-life of ~80 hrs.
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22285912 - 09/24/15 08:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really doubt those would even cause a false positive for anything.
Sounds like you're good to go man. Enjoy the new job
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Re: Do you think I pulled it off? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#22287189 - 09/25/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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4HO-DMT said:
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egodeathflux said: Benzo's can stay in your system for weeks/months, you could say you were on a short course previously if that came up. They give them out for sleep problems etc, you wouldn't need an elaborate story or anything.
Source? Even some of the longer acting benzos have a half-life of ~80 hrs.
Source is drug tests I have taken. Benzo metabolites sit in fat tissue, same way cannabis stays in the system far longer than the half-life. In fact pretty much every drug stays in the system far longer than the half-life, heroin certainly doesn't carry on working for 3-7 days..
I have tested positive for benzos (usually valium) 3-4 weeks after last taking it.
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