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Medical problem - seizure/convulsions
    #22272902 - 09/22/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was hoping to get some advice or maybe some information that is more helpful than the lack thereof provided by the hospital my friend and I wasted our time at yesterday.

My friend has spent the last two and a half days convulsing, that is her body is shaking uncontrollably. It speeds up and slows down intermittently and can become quite vigorous and for the most part has not subsided apart from a couple of intervals and seems to subside while she is sleeping although she has been doing it in her sleep today also. This has not happened before and after a number of tests done at the hospital the doctor said it may be a form of dystonia. They did not offer anything to help, they just said to come back again in a week if it has not subsided. Upon further research into the cause I was reading about how heavy metals such as mercury can build up and cause things similar and as she has been eating a lot of fish I thought it may be a possibility. She has also been eating a lot of fruits and vegetables lately in an effort to eat healthily and I had been reading a few brief things about pesticides and seizures however I have not really found anything that relates to the duration of the condition. I have also read about marine toxins and as we had both eaten squid for dinner the day before she started experiencing this and we had both felt slightly unpleasant I thought that may be another possibility. The thing is, what seemed to trigger it was smoking cannabis. We have smoked a few times together before so it's nothing out of the ordinary, however the effects for her were rather strange. She had only smoked a little bit before she coughed and started to experience an intense cannabis 'trip' in which she had seen things from her dreams and matched them to their origins and other unusual things like that, as well as convulsing for it's duration. I had not experienced anything out of the ordinary and although it was of unknown origin as she had received it from a friend I don't think it could have been the cause, the doctor also said it would not have caused it however it seemed to trigger it as it happened directly after.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? Is there anything I can give her? She is extremely fatigued from the convulsions and they are causing her pain. As I said the hospital wasn't very helpful, regarding heavy metals in the blood they said they didn't test for that in that hospital which I thought was rather outrageous. I will inquire about that tomorrow but other than that I don't know what to do.

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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Hoaxed]
    #22272911 - 09/22/15 07:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Are you sure it was real weed?

Could have been a synthetic cannabinoid I've heard of people seizing on that shit.

Also if you have been using 25 nbome at all I've heard of shit like that.

I have never heard of People convulsing on real cannabis though, never even heard of it.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22272924 - 09/22/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nervines!

Lemon balm, skull cap, so many....

Hurry, op


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: MichAnon.ael]
    #22272934 - 09/22/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://livingafield.com/Actions.htm#Nervine

I have heard of this recently with weed..


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22272937 - 09/22/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Does she take any medications for psychiatric problems? Some antipsychotics are notorious for causing muscle twitching and jerking.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: koods]
    #22272947 - 09/22/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Regardless, she should see her primary care physician who can refer her to a neurologist who will have a much better understanding of these problems than some attending physician in an ER.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Hoaxed] * 1
    #22272958 - 09/22/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It can be the weed. I dunno what causes it, but I have a friend who can't smoke weed for pretty much the same reason. He takes one or two hits (of schwagg, this was long before the shit that is widely available today) and starts having convulsions and seizure like events. His eyes flutter and his "nerves" constantly jolt. It usually subsided after 6 or so hours. I have never seen a single other person have this reaction, but he did. Seems kinda rare, but it does happen.

I have nothing beyond that to offer.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22272974 - 09/22/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Cbd compounds in weed are actually used to tames seizures in some individuals, I think it's safe to rule out the weed but you never know.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Hoaxed]
    #22272994 - 09/22/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

drugs trigger shit:shrug:


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22273010 - 09/22/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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goldcaphunter said:
Cbd compounds in weed are actually used to tames seizures in some individuals, I think it's safe to rule out the weed but you never know.



Seizures are a pretty broad symptom caused by many things. It may be effective in some cases or situations, but that doesn't mean it won't make another worse or even flat out cause it. I don't have a medical background nor have I devoted countless hours studying it's effects in a wide range of individuals. All I can offer is what I've seen. What my friend experiences when he smokes weed is magnitudes beyond "getting too high" or something. The only thing that really sets it apart is he's able to speak (although that is kind of degraded as well, he can only speak in short bursts and simple yes or no's). It's bad enough that we pretty much picked up the phone to call 911 over it. The only reason we didn't is he said he was okay. Even after that, we were still worried, but he kept talking so I didn't. I trusted that he was okay like he said.

He has a VERY adverse reaction to weed. Nothing else does that to him, he's even an ex meth user. It's not as if he's a virgin to mind altering substances. Him and weed combined just make something that looks a lot like someone having a seizure and completely debilitates him.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22273017 - 09/22/15 08:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It was real weed, it was a bud and I had smoked it. Aside from that she doesn't take drugs, I mean at least she wouldn't have confused it with nbome.

She had taken Effexor (venlafaxine) twice about a month ago but decided not to continue with it. I know that stuff has a rather long half life but it was a month and only two pills.

I know antipsychotics can cause that (lithium being a heavy metal) thats why I suspected Mercury in the first place.

I will get her some nervine relaxants tomorrow and see how it goes.

Yes, most of the stuff I looked up was about how cannabis could help seizures however thats kind of the opposite of what happened.

I just don't know why it's lasting so long.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Hoaxed]
    #22273270 - 09/22/15 09:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Hoaxed said:
It was real weed, it was a bud and I had smoked it. Aside from that she doesn't take drugs, I mean at least she wouldn't have confused it with nbome.

She had taken Effexor (venlafaxine) twice about a month ago but decided not to continue with it. I know that stuff has a rather long half life but it was a month and only two pills.

I know antipsychotics can cause that (lithium being a heavy metal) thats why I suspected Mercury in the first place.

I will get her some nervine relaxants tomorrow and see how it goes.

Yes, most of the stuff I looked up was about how cannabis could help seizures however thats kind of the opposite of what happened.

I just don't know why it's lasting so long.





Effexor needs to be banned, that drug is way to dangerous to be giving to anyone especially kids.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Dionili]
    #22273298 - 09/22/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not to sidetrack the thread, but why do you think Effexor is dangerous?


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Dionili]
    #22273305 - 09/22/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like the whole situation is fucked man I would advise seeming a doctor ASAP.
The info I have on this is a friend of mine who used to take Nbomes all the time started having convulsions and seizures quite often.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Hoaxed]
    #22273306 - 09/22/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Hoaxed said:


I will get her some nervine relaxants tomorrow and see how it goes.

Yes, most of the stuff I looked up was about how cannabis could help seizures however thats kind of the opposite of what happened.

I just don't know why it's lasting so long.




dont go with some holistic/alternative medicine horse shit, seriously. have her see a doctor

best case, this was nothing

worst case, she finds she has a serious health problem but at least it is found earl enough to treat


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Dionili]
    #22273317 - 09/22/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Dionili said:

Effexor needs to be banned, that drug is way to dangerous to be giving to anyone especially kids.






marijuana should be banned, it makes people stupid and kids could use it


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22273340 - 09/22/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dionili said:
Quote:

Hoaxed said:
It was real weed, it was a bud and I had smoked it. Aside from that she doesn't take drugs, I mean at least she wouldn't have confused it with nbome.

She had taken Effexor (venlafaxine) twice about a month ago but decided not to continue with it. I know that stuff has a rather long half life but it was a month and only two pills.

I know antipsychotics can cause that (lithium being a heavy metal) thats why I suspected Mercury in the first place.

I will get her some nervine relaxants tomorrow and see how it goes.

Yes, most of the stuff I looked up was about how cannabis could help seizures however thats kind of the opposite of what happened.

I just don't know why it's lasting so long.





Effexor needs to be banned, that drug is way to dangerous to be giving to anyone especially kids.



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Quote:

Dionili said:

Effexor needs to be banned, that drug is way to dangerous to be giving to anyone especially kids.






marijuana should be banned, it makes people stupid and kids could use it





Yeah yeah priz, just doing your thang eh? lol


I watched effexor destroy my friends body and mind. when he started taking it his personality disappeared, and he started flipping out that most drugs would no longer take effect on him, a YEAR later the effexor started giving him seizures, his doctors finally weened him off the stuff, he refused to take any thing else and is now leading a normal functional life.


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Dionili]
    #22273384 - 09/22/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dionili said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Dionili said:

Effexor needs to be banned, that drug is way to dangerous to be giving to anyone especially kids.




marijuana should be banned, it makes people stupid and kids could use it





Yeah yeah priz, just doing your thang eh? lol





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I watched effexor destroy my friends body and mind. when he started taking it his personality disappeared, and he started flipping out that most drugs would no longer take effect on him, a YEAR later the effexor started giving him seizures, his doctors finally weened him off the stuff, he refused to take any thing else and is now leading a normal functional life.





the same can be said of that devil's weed you children smoke, I've seen the same
thin happen to people smoking weed, they start worshiping 420 as if it's
something significant, they start dressing like hippies and they say some
incredibly stupid shit, they flip out when someone mentions it and go on a rant
about how some pharmaceutical did it to their friend


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22273405 - 09/22/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

what did the person eat before it happened?

do they drink?


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Re: Medical problem - seizure/convulsions [Re: micro]
    #22273489 - 09/22/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Here's a link about pesticide exposure:

http://www.organicauthority.com/health/how-do-you-know-if-you-have-pesticide-poisoning-3-warning-signs-not-to-ignore.html

Did she have any headaches or get sweaty or anything else weird before or during the seizures? It's hard to guess at anything without more info.


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