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Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose * 5
    #22271171 - 09/21/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sup, koods?

Ohio Armed Man Protects Family, Shoots and Kills Intruder



REYNOLDSBURG, Ohio – One person is dead and another injured after an armed man fights back against two intruders in Reynoldsburg.

A woman called 911 around 10 p.m. Sunday reporting the shooting in the 8300 block of Priestley Drive, off of Taylor Road.

During the call, the woman told a dispatcher that she was hiding in the basement. Multiple shots could be heard while she was on the phone.

The caller said her cousin and a friend were upstairs, where the shots were being fired. The caller’s 9-year-old son was also in the home.

Police said two men broke into the home and one of the intruders -18-year-old Joshua Collins – exchanged gunfire with an armed man inside the home.

Collins was struck by the gunfire and was pronounced dead Monday morning at Grant Medical Center.

The armed man was injured, but is expected to recover.

The second intruder remains at large.  He is described as a black male wearing a blue, hooded sweatshirt.  Detectives said they believe he is no longer in the area.

Police say they believe the incident was a targeted home invasion.

http://sostrenews.com/ohio-armed-man-protects-family-shoots-and-kills-intruder/


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #22271190 - 09/21/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Inb4 huge amount of pasted stories where the home owner was killed.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #22271199 - 09/21/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Does not compute, Koods has clearly demonstrated that the homeowners would have shot themselves during the attempt of protecting their own lives. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22271204 - 09/21/15 07:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Were they black or white?! I don't know what to blame!!


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22271214 - 09/21/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I like these feel good stories. There's multiple stories like this every day (gunssavelifes.com compiles them and reguarly posts new ones) the MSM just doesn't give them much attention.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22271221 - 09/21/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You mean like this one where an 11 year old was killed by home invaders?

11-year-old shoots, kills home invader

Boy's action protected sister, 4


Published: 09/04/2015 at 12:58 AM

ST. LOUIS COUNTY – A teen shot and killed Thursday by an 11-year-old has been identified.

Lamonte Streeter, 16, was shot during what police believe was a home invasion. According to Sgt. Brian Schellman, a spokesperson for the St. Louis County Police Department, the incident occurred on the 10,000 block of Hallwood Drive around 2:25 p.m.

Police believe two suspects attempted to break into the house when an 11-year-old boy inside the home picked up a loaded gun and fired one shot, striking the 16-year-old. The suspect was pronounced dead on the scene inside the home.

A second suspect ran from the scene but is now in custody.

Sgt. Schellman says two subjects approached the home twice earlier in the day, but never were able to get inside.

A 4-year-old girl was also in the home during the incident. The mother of the two children was not home during the shooting and is cooperating with the investigation.

The St. Louis County Police Department's Bureau of Crimes Against Persons is investigating.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/03/11-year-old-shoot-st-louis-county-home-invader/71665778/


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22271222 - 09/21/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The second intruder remains at large.  He is described as a black male wearing a blue, hooded sweatshirt.  Detectives said they believe he is no longer in the area.

HATE CRIME

HATE CRIME DETECTED


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22271234 - 09/21/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Home invasion always sound spooky

Gotta prepare yourself, weapons, not pissing people off or flashing high dollar items to be a target home


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22271236 - 09/21/15 07:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

D.M.T said:
You mean like this one where an 11 year old was killed by home invaders?

11-year-old shoots, kills home invader

Boy's action protected sister, 4


Published: 09/04/2015 at 12:58 AM

ST. LOUIS COUNTY – A teen shot and killed Thursday by an 11-year-old has been identified.

Lamonte Streeter, 16, was shot during what police believe was a home invasion. According to Sgt. Brian Schellman, a spokesperson for the St. Louis County Police Department, the incident occurred on the 10,000 block of Hallwood Drive around 2:25 p.m.

Police believe two suspects attempted to break into the house when an 11-year-old boy inside the home picked up a loaded gun and fired one shot, striking the 16-year-old. The suspect was pronounced dead on the scene inside the home.

A second suspect ran from the scene but is now in custody.

Sgt. Schellman says two subjects approached the home twice earlier in the day, but never were able to get inside.

A 4-year-old girl was also in the home during the incident. The mother of the two children was not home during the shooting and is cooperating with the investigation.

The St. Louis County Police Department's Bureau of Crimes Against Persons is investigating.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/03/11-year-old-shoot-st-louis-county-home-invader/71665778/



yes that is a perfect example

you obviously didn't read the story, or even the title for that matter


Edited by luvdemboomers (09/21/15 07:51 PM)


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers] * 4
    #22271246 - 09/21/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That was sarcasm.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: twighead] * 2
    #22271252 - 09/21/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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The second intruder remains at large.  He is described as a black male wearing a blue, hooded sweatshirt.  Detectives said they believe he is no longer in the area.

HATE CRIME

HATE CRIME DETECTED




Blacks can't be racist or commit hate crimes, that's just for white people.  :bigyesnod:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: qman]
    #22271344 - 09/21/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Does not compute, Koods has clearly demonstrated that the homeowners would have shot themselves during the attempt of protecting their own lives. :cookiemonster:



I wonder why koods is ignoring this thread. Obviously he knows it exists by now.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T] * 1
    #22271377 - 09/21/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

heres another
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/09/tired-of-being-robbed-female-homeowner-shoots-kills-alleged-home-invader/

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On September 9, an alleged burglar entered a home in the 200 block of Richmond Avenue in Dayton, Ohio, and later died from a wound he received when the female homeowner opened fire.

The incident occurred shortly after 4 a.m., and Dayton Daily News reports it was the fifth time in 11 years that the woman’s residence has been “targeted by criminals.”

According to WHIO, the female homeowner “first called police after hearing a man attempting to break into a second story window.” Then, when the alleged invader “confronted” her inside the home, she opened fire. Police say the suspect then turned and fled out the same window through which he had entered and ran about a block before collapsing. He was taken to Miami Valley Hospital “with at least one gunshot wound” to the chest, and he succumbed to that injury later in the day.

The suspect was identified as 22-year-old DeBrandon Jurrod Dickerson from Detroit.

Dayton Daily News reports that the female homeowner shot another alleged burglar at the residence in June 2013. That shooting occurred after two teenagers allegedly “kicked in her back door.” The homeowner opened fire, wounding one of the teenagers in the arm.




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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22271383 - 09/21/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, I wonder what makes her residence seem like such a good idea to rob? Shitty area? Flashy home? She looks vulnerable? 6 times in 11 years is absurd.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22271409 - 09/21/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Debrandon Dickerson & Lamtonte Streeter.


Can anyone guess their race?

Sorry folks, just reading the news :shrug:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: twighead]
    #22271420 - 09/21/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Lol, I wonder what makes her residence seem like such a good idea to rob? Shitty area? Flashy home? She looks vulnerable? 6 times in 11 years is absurd.



City is 43% black

Not that surprising if she lives in a shitty area in that city...


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22271423 - 09/21/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:strokebeard:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22271488 - 09/21/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

home invasions are why i sleep with my shotgun :douchewink:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Salomon]
    #22271545 - 09/21/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you use Vaseline or gun oil?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22271555 - 09/21/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Sup, koods?






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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: twighead]
    #22271558 - 09/21/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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The second intruder remains at large.  He is described as a black male wearing a blue, hooded sweatshirt.  Detectives said they believe he is no longer in the area.

HATE CRIME

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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip] * 1
    #22271622 - 09/21/15 09:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you use Vaseline or gun oil?





gun oil



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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #22271645 - 09/21/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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Do you use Vaseline or gun oil?





gun oil





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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22271653 - 09/21/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

gotta keep your shit greased


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22271720 - 09/21/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Related story:

Man robbing bank shot by customer in Warren

POSTED SEP 21 2015 04:50PM EDT

WARREN - A bank robber suspect was shot by a customer in Warren Monday afternoon.

The incident happened at a Citizens Bank near Nine Mile and Van Dyke, according to Mayor Jim Fouts. The bank is located in the 23000 block of Van Dyke north of Nine

The customer, who has a CCL, shot the suspect multiple times. He was taken to a nearby hospital.

Fouts said money was "spread all over the street" and officers are working to recover it.

One witness told FOX 2 that he saw the man wounded on the ground and cuffed by officers.

"The paramedics came and worked on him," said the witness. "He was shot and bloodied, yelling and screaming."

In pictures from SkyFOX, multiple police cars are at the scene and blood can be seen on the ground next to two evidence markers outside the bank.

Stay with FOX 2 for more information as it becomes available.

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/22849842-story


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22271795 - 09/21/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nice story, I like the ending especially.
I smile a little when thugs die


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Ezuma]
    #22271804 - 09/21/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

no koods eh?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22271853 - 09/21/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

he's getting warmed up


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22271854 - 09/21/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Can someone explain to me what koods has to do with this thread...?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22271859 - 09/21/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Can someone explain to me what koods has to do with this thread...?





the same thing I have to do with any thread in which a cop beats/shoots someone


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22271872 - 09/21/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

xbloodwhipx said:
Can someone explain to me what koods has to do with this thread...?





the same thing I have to do with any thread in which a cop beats/shoots someone




Which is?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22271880 - 09/21/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

K.o.o.d.s h.a.t.e.s g.u.n.s
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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22271882 - 09/21/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

xbloodwhipx said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

xbloodwhipx said:
Can someone explain to me what koods has to do with this thread...?





the same thing I have to do with any thread in which a cop beats/shoots someone




Which is?





do you pub much?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22271892 - 09/21/15 10:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I dont normally click the threads about cops beating/shooting/arresting civilians.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Ezuma]
    #22271899 - 09/21/15 10:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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K.o.o.d.s h.a.t.e.s g.u.n.s
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Thanks :rofl:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22272124 - 09/21/15 11:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Can someone explain to me what koods has to do with this thread...?



koods always says victims of home invasions are more likely to die from their own gun than shoot a suspect, but never provides any evidence when asked to back up his claim.

As we can see from all of these stories that happened just this month alone, none of the home invasion victims died from their own gun.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: xbloodwhipx]
    #22272217 - 09/21/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Ezuma said:
K.o.o.d.s h.a.t.e.s g.u.n.s
there



Thanks :rofl:





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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22272222 - 09/22/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

D.M.T said:
Quote:

xbloodwhipx said:
Can someone explain to me what koods has to do with this thread...?



koods always says victims of home invasions are more likely to die from their own gun than shoot a suspect, but never provides any evidence when asked to back up his claim.

As we can see from all of these stories that happened just this month alone, none of the home invasion victims died from their own gun.






he cites some goofy "study" where they cherry picked the "victims" that were
killed while armed, it selected only a small number of like 250 out of 1500
shooting victims but didnt want to include anyone from outside of a specific area
o philidepphia and wouldnt touch on circumstances surrounding the shootings such
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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: SunnyD]
    #22272236 - 09/22/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

AddyZomeD said:
Home invasion always sound spooky






It sure does! This was a drug rip off. It was not random.
34 homicides for every self defence killing. I don't even see how this a debate.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/

Self defense with a gun is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. There is nothing but data showing how idiotic the very idea of it is
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9715182
http://www.the-broad-side.com/guns-for-self-defense-myth-versus-reality


I don't think there are "good guys with guns". The majority of use is criminal.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22272245 - 09/22/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Holy shit look at all these criminals using their guns to commit crimes.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22272267 - 09/22/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Home invasion always sound spooky






It sure does! This was a drug rip off. It was not random.
34 homicides for every self defence killing. I don't even see how this a debate.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/19/guns-in-america-for-every-criminal-killed-in-self-defense-34-innocent-people-die/

Self defense with a gun is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. There is nothing but data showing how idiotic the very idea of it is
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9715182
http://www.the-broad-side.com/guns-for-self-defense-myth-versus-reality







skewed statistic, it states the FBI defines as "the killing of a felon, during
the commission of a felony, by a private citizen.". now with a first time
offender the person isnt a felon because he's never had a conviction, was travon
martin defined as a felon? he was certainly committing a felony and zimmerman,
being a citizen defended himself with a firearm and it was ruled as a justifiable
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I don't think there are "good guys with guns". The majority of use is criminal.




so 100 million people in the US are criminals?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22272278 - 09/22/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lol @ that harvard study

7. Adolescents are far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use one in self-defense.

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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: twighead]
    #22272319 - 09/22/15 12:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the thing is, these folks want to cite the self defense homicides as the defining
factors when in reality self defense more often than not doesnt even require a shot
to be fired and in many cases the suspect is only wounded or surrenders while
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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22272620 - 09/22/15 04:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

bcuz gunz r bad mkaayyyy


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22272632 - 09/22/15 04:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ITT and every other on the topic... All gun owners are criminals who use them in criminal activity because having guns for home defense/self defense is pointless as the home owner will either kill himself in the shootout, get shot by the thugs, or kill a family member. Oh and they're all psycho unstable people who will go on shooting rampages and everyone knows that crazy people cannot kill someone without a gun, it's like their kryptonite.

"Honey! I'm going to go out on a rampage, don't wait up for me"
But you can't! You gave your gun to a crack dealer for a quick fix
"FUCK! THEN JUST HOW THE HELL AM i SUPPOSED TO KILL ALL THESE PEOPLE?! My plans for tonight are just goddamn ruined"
Can't you just take the knife? Or make a bomb?
"What are you? Fucking stupid? Everyone knows guns are the only way to kill multiple people for no good reason!"
Darling, most people are too afraid when being slashed at with a knife to do anything but panic, it leaves them vulnerable
"DIDN'T YOU JUST HEAR WHAT I SAID? IT WON'T FUCKING WORK. You can't kill a bunch of people with knives.
What about your car?
"Are you fucking kidding me? Just shut up right now. Ramming my car into a group of people isn't going to do anything.."

This is the point all the anti-gun nuts point out how ridiculous of an argument it is that knives or cars can be used just as effectively as guns, and where I realize they refuse to use logic and think about anything other than "guns are bad!"


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22272641 - 09/22/15 04:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

but guns r bad


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22272649 - 09/22/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Guns are bad when you're on the wrong end of them. Otherwise, they're great.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip] * 2
    #22272691 - 09/22/15 05:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

we ought to just ban black people


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    #22272695 - 09/22/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22272739 - 09/22/15 05:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

what I want to know is, during a home break in you pull a gun on the intruder ok.  now say they have no weapon, they put their hands up.  At this point they are clearly no threat to you, and self defense in most states says you can only shoot if your life is threatened.

So whats stopping the intruder from running out the door, because if hes running away from you, with no weapon, even if he had one and dropped it, if he runs out the door he is no threat to you and if you shoot him its man slaughter right????????


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22272759 - 09/22/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on the state. In some just breaking in is justifiable cause to use deadly force. In others you have to be acting in direct protection of someone (as in, you don't shoot they face serious harm or death). In some states you may be able to argue that they were "fair game" as long as they were still in your house, regardless of their actions, but it's kinda pushing it. The general idea of self defense is to neutralize a threat. When the person isn't a threat, you cannot shoot them. It's a really grey area though. All the shooter has to do is give reasonable evidence they believed their or someone else's life was in danger. Once they pass the threshold it becomes pretty black and white though. If you chase someone down after they flee, and kill them, it's pretty much the same as just randomly murdering them all together.

As long as you can give a reasonable argument that you felt your life was in danger and the only thing you could do to prevent harm was shoot them, you're in the clear. People have gotten away with a lot less, but I would not gamble on it.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22272824 - 09/22/15 06:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You mean like this one where an 11 year old was killed by home invaders?

11-year-old shoots, kills home invader

Boy's action protected sister, 4


Published: 09/04/2015 at 12:58 AM

ST. LOUIS COUNTY – A teen shot and killed Thursday by an 11-year-old has been identified.

Lamonte Streeter, 16, was shot during what police believe was a home invasion. According to Sgt. Brian Schellman, a spokesperson for the St. Louis County Police Department, the incident occurred on the 10,000 block of Hallwood Drive around 2:25 p.m.

Police believe two suspects attempted to break into the house when an 11-year-old boy inside the home picked up a loaded gun and fired one shot, striking the 16-year-old. The suspect was pronounced dead on the scene inside the home.

A second suspect ran from the scene but is now in custody.

Sgt. Schellman says two subjects approached the home twice earlier in the day, but never were able to get inside.

A 4-year-old girl was also in the home during the incident. The mother of the two children was not home during the shooting and is cooperating with the investigation.

The St. Louis County Police Department's Bureau of Crimes Against Persons is investigating.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/03/11-year-old-shoot-st-louis-county-home-invader/71665778/




Wow the parents left an 11 year old at home with a four year old, and a gun? wtf is wrong with people.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272832 - 09/22/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Didn't the the guy defending his house get shot? Why do people risk their lives defending property?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272838 - 09/22/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Didn't the the guy defending his house get shot? Why do people risk their lives defending property?



it's the principle of the matter. alot of people refuse to be a victim, and are willing to risk their lives to defend that principle .


and besides, you have no idea why this stranger who may be armed is breaking into your house, whose to say they're not there to rape your children while they make you watch, and then murder all of you?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272839 - 09/22/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm kinda disappointed.. Been waiting for your appearance and that's what you have to say? :lol:

Don't get me wrong, you know I'm pro-gun as shit, but I kinda think that's stupid as well. I have no problem with kids shooting guns, hell my 10 year old has already shot an impressive array of guns. .22 pistols, 9mm pistols, .38 revolvers, cowboy rifles, assault rifles, converted WWII SMGs replica .22 StG 44s and even a 12 gauge shotgun, but it was all done under close supervision and guidance.

I really don't care what the circumstances are, leaving a child that age within easy access of a gun is pretty stupid. I'm not against him defending his sister or the actions he took, but I do have to questions the circumstances that lead to it in the first place.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272845 - 09/22/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow the parents left an 11 year old at home with a four year old, and a gun? wtf is wrong with people.




11 year olds can be responsible enough.

WTF is wrong with you for assuming this one wasn't?



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Why do people risk their lives defending property?




Because:
A. It's nowhere near as risky as your pants-piddling self thinks.
B. Stuff is worth more than the life of scumbags.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods] * 2
    #22272865 - 09/22/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just in the past month:

http://www.kcra.com/news/candlelight-vigil-held-for-teen-killed-in-accidental-shooting/35407052

http://www.standard.net/Police-Fire/2015/09/20/Ogden-Police-13-year-old-accidentally-shot-by-younger-sister

http://www.villagelife.com/news/accidental-shooting-ends-edh-womans-life/

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/09/20/deputies-man-killed-woman-18-after-accidentally-firing-gun/

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/bessemer-police-chief-accidentally-shot-killed-whi/nndtF/

http://foxct.com/2015/09/18/woman-accidentally-shot-during-target-practice-in-preston/

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2015/09/birmingham_teen_accidently_sho.html

https://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/09/state_police_investigating_after_trooper_accidentally_shoots

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20150914/far-rockaway/15-year-old-girl-accidentally-shot-head-by-friends-at-her-home-nypd

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-boy-11-accidentally-shot-to-death-had-lost-father-to-gun-violence-20150903-story.html

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/pinal/breaking/2015/09/08/police-say-baby-sitter-accidentally-shoots-boy/71906574/

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/clark-county-teen-accidentally-shot-in-chest/nnfJW/

http://www.katu.com/news/local/Man-woman-claim-they-accidentally-shot-themselves-police-say-325397191.html

http://host.madison.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/madison-police-woman-accidentally-shot-by-man-cleaning-gun/article_b0dd0976-bb87-56fd-be96-aa5ddbf2bd93.html

http://myfox8.com/2015/08/30/north-carolina-pastor-killed-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-while-cleaning-gun/

http://www.wmur.com/news/girl-9-accidentally-shot-in-stomach-by-father-in-vermont/35016668

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/us/man-selfie-shooting/

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/29872927/16-year-old-boy-dead-in-catoosa-county-from-gunshot-wound

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/father-charged-sons-accidental-shooting-ford-city-/nnb8g/

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/weddings/71999640/lavish-new-york-wedding-ruined-after-guest-accidentally-shot

http://www.nj.com/burlington/index.ssf/2015/08/2_charged_after_teen_is_accidentally_shot_in_mt_la.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3233932/Teenager-accidentally-shot-killed-17-year-old-friend-horseplay-gun.html

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/09/woman_accidentally_shot_after.html

http://www.whio.com/news/news/crime-law/accidental-shooting-reported-in-kettering/nnZBJ/

http://nbc26.tv/2015/08/25/breaking-accidental-shooting-at-w-s-hornsby-school/

http://fox43.com/2015/09/10/teen-charged-after-accidentally-shooting-himself-in-harrisburg/

http://nypost.com/2015/08/26/toddler-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-himself/

http://fox6now.com/2015/08/27/neighbor-discovers-67-year-old-man-accidentally-shot-in-chest-victim-taken-to-hospital-via-flight-for-life/

http://www.wapt.com/news/central-mississippi/5yearold-girl-accidentally-shot-by-brother-authorities-say/35101778

http://theadvocate.com/news/13321351-123/new-roads-man-kills-himself

http://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/crime/article33725922.html

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2015/09/14/police-teen-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-leg-for-second-time-in-3-months/

http://www.hlntv.com/article/2015/08/31/student-gun-school-shoots-classmate-ws-hornsby

http://www.local12.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Cops-Boy-accidentally-shot-by-older-brother-190081.shtml

http://www.whdh.com/story/29886373/nashua-man-accused-of-accidentally-shooting-friend

http://www.douglasenterprise.net/articles/2015/09/03/news/doc55d49b22917ad795096050.txt



Wow. Some guy defended his house from home invaders and only got shot,. Totally worth it.


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    #22272877 - 09/22/15 07:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Inb4 huge amount of pasted stories where the home owner was killed.



OMG THERE IT IS! :ilold:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272879 - 09/22/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lol koods.


Seriously though why the fuck Do we need guns I could give two shits if nobody had any guns.

Seems like it would make the world safer.


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    #22272884 - 09/22/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Only if you could go back in time and erase guns from history and then manage to stop anyone who came close to inventing them.

Guns are a pandora's box. Once they're out, they're out. There is no stopping it. As long as the basic concept exists, people will always be able to obtain them. If they're illegal, it only makes it a little harder for criminals to get them, but criminals do not give one shit about the law, so saying "you can't legally own a gun" does not prevent them from having them.

They're out there, they are not going away.


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    #22272891 - 09/22/15 07:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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Inb4 huge amount of pasted stories where the home owner was killed.



OMG THERE IT IS! :ilold:




No, those are people who were accidentally shot with guns that were supposed to protect them. There are dozens per month. How many successful self defense incidents are there?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22272898 - 09/22/15 07:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Only if you could go back in time and erase guns from history and then manage to stop anyone who came close to inventing them.

Guns are a pandora's box. Once they're out, they're out. There is no stopping it. As long as the basic concept exists, people will always be able to obtain them. If they're illegal, it only makes it a little harder for criminals to get them, but criminals do not give one shit about the law, so saying "you can't legally own a gun" does not prevent them from having them.

They're out there, they are not going away.




This is a totally different issue. This is about whether having a gun at home makes your family safer or not. Look how many people are accidentally shot with their own, or their parents, or their friends parents guns compared to the number of people who use their gun to thwart a robbery or home invasion - and even those numbers are going to be misleading because we don't know how those situation would have ended up if the homeowner didn't have a gun.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272903 - 09/22/15 07:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly.

a lot of gun owners I know are racist bigot assholes and get hammered and shoot there guns off while they rev up their trucks.

So im kinda biased on the whole thing.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22272917 - 09/22/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow the parents left an 11 year old at home with a four year old, and a gun? wtf is wrong with people.




11 year olds can be responsible enough.

WTF is wrong with you for assuming this one wasn't?




I'm not questioning the 11 year old, I'm question the parents who left an 11 year old alone to take care of a four year old.

And let's be honest, which is more likely to happen if an 11 year old by is left home alone with access to a gun - that he will successfully defend his home against an intruder or he accidentally shoots himself or his sister or his friend that wants to see the gun because that is exactly what 11 year old boys do.

The reason that story is unusual is because things worked out for the best. How many stories are there where a kid like that ends up hurting or killing himself or someone else?


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272923 - 09/22/15 07:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Same difference.

And couldn't tell you (sure someone else will though). Although the answer to that argument would be kind of pointless unless you can prove those people had basic training with guns. Idiots injure themselves all the time with tools they haven't taken the time to familiarize themselves with. If you wanna tack on a stipulation that someone must attend some basic training before owning one, I'm all for it. But for all I know all those stories are of idiots who don't know the first thing about them.
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Only if you could go back in time and erase guns from history and then manage to stop anyone who came close to inventing them.

Guns are a pandora's box. Once they're out, they're out. There is no stopping it. As long as the basic concept exists, people will always be able to obtain them. If they're illegal, it only makes it a little harder for criminals to get them, but criminals do not give one shit about the law, so saying "you can't legally own a gun" does not prevent them from having them.

They're out there, they are not going away.




This is a totally different issue. This is about whether having a gun at home makes your family safer or not. Look how many people are accidentally shot with their own, or their parents, or their friends parents guns compared to the number of people who use their gun to thwart a robbery or home invasion - and even those numbers are going to be misleading because we don't know how those situation would have ended up if the homeowner didn't have a gun.



Kind of like the statistics you love to throw out that include suicides in gun deaths. As if those people couldn't or wouldn't have killed themselves another way.

We don't or more accurately shouldn't, live in a world of "what ifs". If you're okay with banking on the home intruder not killing you, and don't want to own a gun that's fine. I'd rather have option. Having a gun isn't based on what if's, it's just being prepared/having the option. You're living in what if land when automatically assume everything will be fine in that situation. I'm not just paranoid, I have a legitimate reason to be afraid my front door will be kicked in by a madman who has actually attempted to kill me in the past. I hear my door get kicked in, I'm grabbing my gun that is locked in a safe and fully loaded, takes me about 2 seconds to access, and am coming out ready to shoot. Not blindly shoot, be ready to shoot. I know to identify targets first and I have plenty of room to do so, even caught by surprise. I also actually have video of SWAT and dozens of cops surrounding the house across the street when they finally caught a group of dangerous robbery suspects breaking into the house. I don't live in a great neighborhood, that shit happens here.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272930 - 09/22/15 07:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Totally worth it.




These people would agree.


http://bearingarms.com/mayor-second-amendment-right-concealed-carrier-shoots-bank-robber/

http://bearingarms.com/anti-gun-pacifist/

http://bearingarms.com/criminal-runs-sight-clerks-gun/

http://bearingarms.com/when-seconds-count-police-may-be-over-an-hour-away/

http://bearingarms.com/dayton-woman-shoots-kills-home-invader/

http://bearingarms.com/chilling-home-invaders-zip-ties-guns-shot-connecticut-father/

http://bearingarms.com/hes-hero-retiree-opens-fire-home-invaders-el-cerrito-gains-fans/

http://bearingarms.com/concealed-carrier-shoots-armed-robber-detroit-still/

http://bearingarms.com/homeowner-saves-shooting-violent-felon-maine/

http://bearingarms.com/pizza-delivery-driver-drops-armed-thug-norfolk/

http://bearingarms.com/good-guy-gun-store-clerk-kills-armed-thug-defend-self-customer/

http://bearingarms.com/north-las-vegas-teen-thwarts-home-invasion-rifle/

http://bearingarms.com/wrong-yard-homeowner-captures-tow-truck-carjacking-suspect/

http://bearingarms.com/louisiana-sheriff-two-word-response-domestic-violence-drop/

http://bearingarms.com/man-shoots-robber-street-fight-turned-home-invasion/

http://bearingarms.com/elderly-woman-pulls-gun-thwart-two-men-attempting-rape/

http://bearingarms.com/another-loving-kid-killed-committing-armed-robbery/

http://bearingarms.com/texas-pastor-shoots-intruder/

Should I continue? But hey... better a few more live criminals... right koods?

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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22272933 - 09/22/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I bet you like killing things for sport


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22272936 - 09/22/15 07:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow the parents left an 11 year old at home with a four year old, and a gun? wtf is wrong with people.




11 year olds can be responsible enough.

WTF is wrong with you for assuming this one wasn't?




I'm not questioning the 11 year old, I'm question the parents who left an 11 year old alone to take care of a four year old.

And let's be honest, which is more likely to happen if an 11 year old by is left home alone with access to a gun - that he will successfully defend his home against an intruder or he accidentally shoots himself or his sister or his friend that wants to see the gun because that is exactly what 11 year old boys do.

The reason that story is unusual is because things worked out for the best. How many stories are there where a kid like that ends up hurting or killing himself or someone else?




You don't know the kid nor the parents... correct? So I ask again...

WTF is wrong with you for assuming this one wasn't?

Untwist your knickers and stop with your bleeding heart nonsense. You look more foolish each time.  :cryaboutit:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22272938 - 09/22/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I bet you like killing things for sport




Actually, I gave up hunting decades ago.

I bet you frequently like saying stupid things.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: MinnesnowtaNice]
    #22272964 - 09/22/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Exactly.

a lot of gun owners I know are racist bigot assholes and get hammered and shoot there guns off while they rev up their trucks.

So im kinda biased on the whole thing.




Like a street thugs from Chicago?  http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-weekend-shooting-totals-20150921-story.html

Last weekend "8 dead, 45 wounded".


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22272967 - 09/22/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Totally worth it.




These people would agree.


http://bearingarms.com/mayor-second-amendment-right-concealed-carrier-shoots-bank-robber/

http://bearingarms.com/anti-gun-pacifist/

http://bearingarms.com/criminal-runs-sight-clerks-gun/

http://bearingarms.com/when-seconds-count-police-may-be-over-an-hour-away/

http://bearingarms.com/dayton-woman-shoots-kills-home-invader/

http://bearingarms.com/chilling-home-invaders-zip-ties-guns-shot-connecticut-father/

http://bearingarms.com/hes-hero-retiree-opens-fire-home-invaders-el-cerrito-gains-fans/

http://bearingarms.com/concealed-carrier-shoots-armed-robber-detroit-still/

http://bearingarms.com/homeowner-saves-shooting-violent-felon-maine/

http://bearingarms.com/pizza-delivery-driver-drops-armed-thug-norfolk/

http://bearingarms.com/good-guy-gun-store-clerk-kills-armed-thug-defend-self-customer/

http://bearingarms.com/north-las-vegas-teen-thwarts-home-invasion-rifle/

http://bearingarms.com/wrong-yard-homeowner-captures-tow-truck-carjacking-suspect/

http://bearingarms.com/louisiana-sheriff-two-word-response-domestic-violence-drop/

http://bearingarms.com/man-shoots-robber-street-fight-turned-home-invasion/

http://bearingarms.com/elderly-woman-pulls-gun-thwart-two-men-attempting-rape/

http://bearingarms.com/another-loving-kid-killed-committing-armed-robbery/

http://bearingarms.com/texas-pastor-shoots-intruder/

Should I continue? But hey... better a few more live criminals... right koods?

How fortunate for America that we have the 2nd, which will never go away. The thought of the tears and anguish of anti-gunners is sweet and nourishing.




What would have happened to these people if they didn't have their gun? Do you really believe most of them would have been physically harmed?

Meanwhile you ignore the dozens of people who are killed every month by guns that were in someone's house because they wanted to be able to defend themselves.

It's also kind of fucked up that you feel that killing someone who breaks into your house to steal your jewelry is OK. Nobody values life around here. You think taking someone's life is justified if they step onto your property uninvited.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22272970 - 09/22/15 08:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I bet you like killing things for sport




Actually, I gave up hunting decades ago.

I bet you frequently like saying stupid things.



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    #22272987 - 09/22/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I pretty much agree with home invaders who take the risk to breaking into a home know what the risks were before they did it. They chose to risk that against fast money, their problem. I have no sympathy for them.

That said, I dunno if everyone shares my philosophy, but mine is I'm not going to wait around and see if they plan to just steal my shit and leave. Someone breaking into homes is obviously pretty desperate, there's really no telling what they're going to do.

Honestly, fuck 'em. It's not gun owners who shoot them who have no value for life, it's the thieves themselves that have no value for life. Well actually they do, and it's quite low. Hundreds maybe a thousand or two dollars. THEY put that value on their life, not the person shooting them. It's not as if they HAD to break into the house. They chose to. No one out there breaking into homes is unaware of the possible consequences.

Do you also think that people who take hostages shouldn't be shot? They knew the consequences when they did it. That's different because they've put other lives in danger? Well no it's not really. Despite their actions, you don't really know what's going through either person's head. For all anyone know that hostage taker is going to kill his victim and for all anyone knows, that burglary suspect will do the same.

Sorry, I just have no sympathy for them. I've committed a lot of crime in my life, and I always knew the possible outcomes. I still chose to do it. If the worst came to pass, I'd have to live or die with it. I made that choice long before the crime.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods] * 1
    #22273008 - 09/22/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
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luvdemshrooms said:
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koods said:
Totally worth it.




These people would agree.


http://bearingarms.com/mayor-second-amendment-right-concealed-carrier-shoots-bank-robber/

http://bearingarms.com/anti-gun-pacifist/

http://bearingarms.com/criminal-runs-sight-clerks-gun/

http://bearingarms.com/when-seconds-count-police-may-be-over-an-hour-away/

http://bearingarms.com/dayton-woman-shoots-kills-home-invader/

http://bearingarms.com/chilling-home-invaders-zip-ties-guns-shot-connecticut-father/

http://bearingarms.com/hes-hero-retiree-opens-fire-home-invaders-el-cerrito-gains-fans/

http://bearingarms.com/concealed-carrier-shoots-armed-robber-detroit-still/

http://bearingarms.com/homeowner-saves-shooting-violent-felon-maine/

http://bearingarms.com/pizza-delivery-driver-drops-armed-thug-norfolk/

http://bearingarms.com/good-guy-gun-store-clerk-kills-armed-thug-defend-self-customer/

http://bearingarms.com/north-las-vegas-teen-thwarts-home-invasion-rifle/

http://bearingarms.com/wrong-yard-homeowner-captures-tow-truck-carjacking-suspect/

http://bearingarms.com/louisiana-sheriff-two-word-response-domestic-violence-drop/

http://bearingarms.com/man-shoots-robber-street-fight-turned-home-invasion/

http://bearingarms.com/elderly-woman-pulls-gun-thwart-two-men-attempting-rape/

http://bearingarms.com/another-loving-kid-killed-committing-armed-robbery/

http://bearingarms.com/texas-pastor-shoots-intruder/

Should I continue? But hey... better a few more live criminals... right koods?

How fortunate for America that we have the 2nd, which will never go away. The thought of the tears and anguish of anti-gunners is sweet and nourishing.




What would have happened to these people if they didn't have their gun? Do you really believe most of them would have been physically harmed?

Meanwhile you ignore the dozens of people who are killed every month by guns that were in someone's house because they wanted to be able to defend themselves.

It's also kind of fucked up that you feel that killing someone who breaks into your house to steal your jewelry is OK. Nobody values life around here. You think taking someone's life is justified if they step onto your property uninvited.




So you think someone that has the mindset to break into a strangers home in the middle of the night wouldn't resort to physical violence to achieve their objective?  Talk about naïve thinking. :lol:

"You think taking someone's life is justified if they step onto your property uninvited"

No, if they break into my secured home, they're going to get shot, if the bullets kill them so be it.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22273035 - 09/22/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You mean like this one where an 11 year old was killed by home invaders?

11-year-old shoots, kills home invader

Boy's action protected sister, 4


Published: 09/04/2015 at 12:58 AM

ST. LOUIS COUNTY – A teen shot and killed Thursday by an 11-year-old has been identified.

Lamonte Streeter, 16, was shot during what police believe was a home invasion. According to Sgt. Brian Schellman, a spokesperson for the St. Louis County Police Department, the incident occurred on the 10,000 block of Hallwood Drive around 2:25 p.m.

Police believe two suspects attempted to break into the house when an 11-year-old boy inside the home picked up a loaded gun and fired one shot, striking the 16-year-old. The suspect was pronounced dead on the scene inside the home.

A second suspect ran from the scene but is now in custody.

Sgt. Schellman says two subjects approached the home twice earlier in the day, but never were able to get inside.

A 4-year-old girl was also in the home during the incident. The mother of the two children was not home during the shooting and is cooperating with the investigation.

The St. Louis County Police Department's Bureau of Crimes Against Persons is investigating.

http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/03/11-year-old-shoot-st-louis-county-home-invader/71665778/




Wow the parents left an 11 year old at home with a four year old, and a gun? wtf is wrong with people.





I'll tell you, some are reactionary types that fake offense and shock at anything
they can, I like to call that type the 'Drama Queen', they're the type that want
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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22273051 - 09/22/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What would have happened to these people if they didn't have their gun? Do you really believe most of them would have been physically harmed?




I don't know that any more than you do. Should they have waited to see? :laugh2:


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Meanwhile you ignore the dozens of people who are killed every month by guns that were in someone's house because they wanted to be able to defend themselves.




Moronic statement. Why would you assume I ignore it? If people are careless with their guns then they have brought the consequences onto themselves.


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It's also kind of fucked up that you feel that killing someone who breaks into your house to steal your jewelry is OK.




It's fucked up you don't.


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Nobody values life around here.




I highly value life. Just not the lives of scumbags.


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You think taking someone's life is justified if they step onto your property uninvited.




Do you never tire of saying stupid things? Do you do so IRL? Can people stomach your repeatedly saying stupid things?

I don't have a problem with people stepping onto my property, it's when they enter my house uninvited that the gun would come out. How sad for you that you can't distinguish between the two.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22273053 - 09/22/15 08:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

so the moral of the story is non violent people who break into homes should wear gopro's from now on ?


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    #22273061 - 09/22/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22273062 - 09/22/15 08:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The moral of the story is if your life really is so valuable, don't go breaking into people's houses when you damn well know it may end with you bleeding out on the floor.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: koods]
    #22273070 - 09/22/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
Meanwhile you ignore the dozens of people who are killed every month by guns that were in someone's house because they wanted to be able to defend themselves.




maybe those people shouldnt have been breaking into other people's homes while they
were there, it's called home invasion and it is a violent crime.


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It's also kind of fucked up that you feel that killing someone who breaks into your house to steal your jewelry is OK. Nobody values life around here. You think taking someone's life is justified if they step onto your property uninvited.




damn koods, you never will give up on defending the rapists, pedophiles and
murderers that use other criminal acts to achieve their goals, I'm not at all
surprised why so many 'biggots' see gay people as just that sort of criminal

maybe their mothers should have taught them that stealing is wrong or at least to
only steal from people with Obama bumper stickers because they make easy targets


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22273075 - 09/22/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The moral of the story is if your life really is so valuable, don't go breaking into people's houses when you damn well know it may end with you bleeding out on the floor.




Nicely said.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: makaveli8x8] * 1
    #22273079 - 09/22/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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so the moral of the story is non violent people who break into homes should wear gopro's from now on ?





no, the moral of the story is that koods is unarmed and much easier to rape, rob and kill


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22273082 - 09/22/15 08:47 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ohio men just grow an extra set of balls other state men cant seem to grow


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: shroominated]
    #22273086 - 09/22/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If I had 4 balls my pants would be too tight.

Besides, if you think people in Ohio don't have guns, then you're not 5% as clever as you seem to think your comment makes you.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: shroominated]
    #22273087 - 09/22/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ohio men just grow an extra set of balls other state men cant seem to grow





are the balls hanging from their chin because I'm pretty sure they're borrowed and
attached to the penis currently in their mouths


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22273090 - 09/22/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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no, the moral of the story is that koods is unarmed and much easier to rape, rob and kill




:pedobearpancakes:  :crochunterbaby:  :scarface:


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22273093 - 09/22/15 08:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

are you from ohio howd you know are you a government spy?!


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: D.M.T]
    #22273423 - 09/22/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Capers]
    #22273430 - 09/22/15 10:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

or a dog that takes a bite out of crime


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22273434 - 09/22/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The dog takes 3 bullets before he can bite.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22273455 - 09/22/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Guns are great tools and a heck of a lot of fun. I don't know what kind of sissy would dislike them.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Capers] * 1
    #22273466 - 09/22/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

little princess's living in box's that don't realize how the world really works, and how fragile the cardboard is around them


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Capers]
    #22273475 - 09/22/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:highfive:

Sissies constantly want to destroy your fun because it's "dangerous". we're not even allowed to ingest whatever chemical tickles our fancy because some sissy thinks it's a bad idea!


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22273598 - 09/22/15 11:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I suspect Koods lives in a part of the country where there's a lot of petty crime like muggings and the like, and people all distrust each other to a larger extent. Less urban places tend to hold a higher value on a communal sense of trust and respect, and they consider burglars and the like to be a threat to the community at large. When a guy breaks into your house and threatens you and your livelihood/stuff with physical harm, then stopping him is thought of as a personal right and a public service because a burglar at large is dangerous to everybody. As long as people are reasonably competent, then legally empowering them to defend themselves makes the community safer and stronger in principle because it lessens the demand on the police. If a guy with a weapon breaks into somebody's house and threatens people with a weapon, and the police were in the same situation, then they would shoot the guy. Where I live the response time for the police is something like 25-30 minutes. I can't rely on the police for protection like people can in the city, and if a home invader shows up, I guarantee you that I'm much safer with a gun than without one, and I'm glad I'm allowed to make that decision for myself.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
    #22273665 - 09/22/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

thanks to some very well thought out posts in this thread, i now no longer have any concerns whatsoever about gun ownership in america. thanks guys.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: millzy]
    #22273682 - 09/22/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lol, guns? lets all talk about it. incessantly.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: akira_akuma]
    #22273877 - 09/22/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think we should just ban guns, bees, snakes, spiders, cars, alchohol, knives, baseball bats, dogs, peanuts, food, smoking, and climbing mountains. Or we could try better educating ourselves.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: twighead]
    #22273893 - 09/22/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Were they black or white?! I don't know what to blame!!




Blame Obama. As he's half and half... both of your bases are covered.


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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22273915 - 09/22/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

we should admire people who've protected themselves from home invaders; we also shouldn't admonish but yet exculpate those whom kill their neighbors after thinking they were intruders though they weren't.

that's what I THINK.



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Re: Ohio Man Exchanges Gunfire with Home Invaders, Home Invaders Lose [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22274024 - 09/22/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

so technically Obama is a grey?  :ancientaliens:


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