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Scott Walker is out of the race.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Patlal]
#22270590 - 09/21/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm bummed but the writing was on the wall and at least he had the brains to read it.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22270613 - 09/21/15 05:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Even after a terrible debate, trump is still ahead. He has a long way to go, but up to now, there's nobody in the field capable of doing anything
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Patlal]
#22270635 - 09/21/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Believe me. He is topped out. Down is his only option. As the field whittles down his freak show act which is utterly devoid of substance will crater.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22270645 - 09/21/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was in the twitter sphere the other day and I was shocked how many people dedicated their entire profiles to supporting trump. it was almost like it was a fad. Trump 2016 in the bio header. Shit's funny. I really don't think he would be bad but he hasn't laid out a single policy and it's getting old. Then again the election isn't for another year.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Gorlax] 1
#22270666 - 09/21/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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maybe a fad president will be a good thing!
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22270667 - 09/21/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jeb isn't doing much better nor Jindal or rubio and certainly not Fiorina. The only one with a snowball's chance of stopping trump is carson.
On the dem side we have the sinking juggernaut hitlery, the surging sanders and undecided biden. Hill needs to stay in to keep biden out. Then at the convention her campaign collapses and she makes a deal to be assistant gofer to one of the higher ups in return for her support. Its too late for biden to act and Bernie inherits the slot. He of course gets butchered by trump and joins Mondale in losing by a landslide.
In a couple years you can say Hillary and no one will know who you are talking about.
One good thing about zap is he is consistent. Said walker would win and says trump has no chance.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22270685 - 09/21/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Another thing I noticed in the fucking twitter sphere was Hillary has FLOTUS in her header and I'm pretty sure that belongs to Michelle Obama. She thinks she's first lady for ever now.
she really is a fucking retard. She sets up a fucking private server for god knows what with some small IT company. Then deletes the emails and thinks that the server is wiped. Stupid everyone knows that servers copy the information to multiple locations in case of failure.
I wiped the server with a cloth was super incriminating.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22270694 - 09/21/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Carson is a 
He just made retarded comments about how he thinks the president should only be Christian and people have been calling for him to drop out
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22270705 - 09/21/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Jeb isn't doing much better nor Jindal or rubio and certainly not Fiorina. The only one with a snowball's chance of stopping trump is carson.
On the dem side we have the sinking juggernaut hitlery, the surging sanders and undecided biden. Hill needs to stay in to keep biden out. Then at the convention her campaign collapses and she makes a deal to be assistant gofer to one of the higher ups in return for her support. Its too late for biden to act and Bernie inherits the slot. He of course gets butchered by trump and joins Mondale in losing by a landslide.
In a couple years you can say Hillary and no one will know who you are talking about.
One good thing about zap is he is consistent. Said walker would win and says trump has no chance.
I din't say he would win. I said I wanted him to win. And I don't think Trump has a chance. The long knives will be out when the time comes. He isn't even a conservative. He is an isolationist protectionaist crony capitalist who has donated millions to Democrats to curry favor. In other words, a whore.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Janky Tits]
#22270706 - 09/21/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I understand what he meant. He didn't really say that, just media spin. He said islam doesn't really fit the constitution or some shit and that he wouldn't support a muslim president. Which I wouldn't either. Islam basically says the rule of law should be followed by the Quran. When your sworn into the presidency you put your hand on the bible so good luck getting some muslim to touch the bible.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Janky Tits]
#22270711 - 09/21/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Janky Tits said: Carson is a 
He just made retarded comments about how he thinks the president should only be Christian and people have been calling for him to drop out
That's funny. That seems to be the opinion of the electorate, too. Atheists need not apply.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22270750 - 09/21/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What Trump is doing is unheard of really.
Every politician out there already has every issue figured out. Trump is taking his time a releasing bit by bit more and more info. Other than immigration and gun laws, the man's policies are still a mystery. He's going to release his tax plan in October. You know. To keep the media interested.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Gorlax]
#22270758 - 09/21/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess you are right
I wouldn't want a Muslim in office either but I wouldn't want some fundamentalist screw ball like him or Reagan in office ever again.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Janky Tits]
#22270793 - 09/21/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think you people mean you don't want another muslim in office. One was bad enough.
Who can stop trump now? He is on a roll and will crush all opposition.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22270798 - 09/21/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What I'm waiting to see is who Walker's people are gonna support now.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22270799 - 09/21/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was actually going to say that but I wasn't sure if people were going to make me seriously after that
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#22270823 - 09/21/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm voting for Bernie Sanders
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#22270841 - 09/21/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: What Trump is doing is unheard of really.
Every politician out there already has every issue figured out. Trump is taking his time a releasing bit by bit more and more info. Other than immigration and gun laws, the man's policies are still a mystery. He's going to release his tax plan in October. You know. To keep the media interested.
Trump isn't a politician and he has nothing figured out except how to evade questions. Remember Ross Perot?
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Janky Tits]
#22270860 - 09/21/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Janky Tits]
#22271024 - 09/21/15 07:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Janky Tits said: Carson is a 
He just made retarded comments about how he thinks the president should only be Christian and people have been calling for him to drop out
Is that what he said? Could be wrong, but I didn't hear him say that only Christians should be president. What he said is that a Muslim should never be president.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Janky Tits]
#22271027 - 09/21/15 07:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Janky Tits said: Carson is a 
He just made retarded comments about how he thinks the president should only be Christian and people have been calling for him to drop out
No, he said we should never have a Muslim as president of the United States.
Get it right.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Patlal]
#22271254 - 09/21/15 07:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bernie Sanders tho
inb4 socialist/communist/18trilliondollarscost/can'twin
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: twighead]
#22271268 - 09/21/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope he gets the nomination. He has no chance in the general.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22271310 - 09/21/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why do you think that? I think it would be a very fierce election battle.. and likely a very dirty one.... especially if trump is nominated, but I think he stands a legitimate chance. Polled back in August against trump in a national election, he either cut within 2 points or won... Polls are polls yes... but they mean -something- ... to a limited degree.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/30/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-poll/
They're using Quinnipac polling as the source on this.
His popularity has risen since this poll as well.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: twighead]
#22271323 - 09/21/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Trump isn't goimg to be the nominee and Bernie is a thinskinned commie whackjob
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22271351 - 09/21/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I can't say I'd have to ask your opinion on Sanders to know what it would be
Who do you think is going to win the nomination on the republican side? I could I suppose see Walkers tactic working (the lesser chanced nominees giving up so that the vote can be concentrated into a main opposition candidate to trump) - as I imagine most of the votes split between the other 14 candidates are mostly core republican voters... and those who would vote trump have already made up their mind.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: twighead]
#22271490 - 09/21/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Zap liked walker and walker was out early. Zap hated trump, said he would soon fade and he shot to the top. Now he says trump has no chance, that means trump will get the nomination and win. People will pay good money to have zap say they have no chance.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22271594 - 09/21/15 09:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Feel the BERN!
I feel Bernie will win and that saying above will turn out to be a huge "I told ya so".
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Boomertown]
#22271703 - 09/21/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who will the public want, a grandpa feebly spouting commie ideas or a vigorous business man with a plan? Sanders will bern out and the dems will be shaking their head wondering what went wrong.
Jeb the rich well connected asshole has faded into low single digits along with the rest of the crowd. The media tries to bang the drum for Fiorina because of her amazing quality of being a female. But the public isn't buying it. Carson will split the negro vote an get the xtian fanatic vote but will run out of gas soon.
The liberal "experts" said trump lost the last debate but the public says otherwise. Sheep are getting out of control. We might actually get someone good this time.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22271719 - 09/21/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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He's anything but feeble.. Sanders looks like he's about to singlehandedly beat the fuck out of congress at any given moment... You can tell he is very serious about taking on corruption. He has far more of a plan than trump has at this point
Of course they appeal to completely opposite (yet not entirely separate) ends of the spectrum...
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22271727 - 09/21/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i hope Trump wins. i wanna see America implode with fandom over boarder protection and see what else comes up, and see how everyone eventually hates Trump, like every other president in the last 50+ years.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22271736 - 09/21/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Jeb isn't doing much better nor Jindal or rubio and certainly not Fiorina. The only one with a snowball's chance of stopping trump is carson.
On the dem side we have the sinking juggernaut hitlery, the surging sanders and undecided biden. Hill needs to stay in to keep biden out. Then at the convention her campaign collapses and she makes a deal to be assistant gofer to one of the higher ups in return for her support. Its too late for biden to act and Bernie inherits the slot. He of course gets butchered by trump and joins Mondale in losing by a landslide.
In a couple years you can say Hillary and no one will know who you are talking about.
One good thing about zap is he is consistent. Said walker would win and says trump has no chance.
i THINK Fiornia has a good chcance . Her popularity has surged quite a bit within the last few days.
Trump is definitely not going any further
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Stonehenge]
#22271975 - 09/21/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: Who will the public want, a grandpa feebly spouting commie ideas or a vigorous business man with a plan?
You know Bernie is only 5 years older than trump right?
From what I saw at the debate though, I think Fiornia is most likely gonna win the republican nominee. I'm pretty sure she is polling in second now. But out of all the candidates, she was pretty damn good.
Trump's bickering and name calling is getting really old really quick. At least for me. He's just causing every single republican to try and throw shit at eachother. But like half the questions in the debate were "so, so and so said this about trump, do you think trump would be a good president?"
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Achillita]
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I think alot of you guys are really underestimating the Bush legacy.
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#22272065 - 09/21/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bernie Sanders plan is trash. He is already posting videos on shitty websites like worldstar to get victim votes. He just rambles about how he is going to get the top 15 richest people to somehow disperse their wealth and fix the country. which makes no sense legally and will never happen.
Then he claims he will make almost everything free. College would be free, healthcare, and 15$ min wage. Simply changing the number won't do shit besides just shift inflation higher. Then you have the estimate of cost that it would cost being upwards of 18 trillion. So if we are dumb enough to elect someone who wants to double the national debt we are truly fucked. He has no chance tho imo. Way too out there and will win like 2 states (cali and washington)
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Most of the policies he talks about have already been very successfully implemented in other countries for decades now. The citizens of these countries rank among the happiest people on earth.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Gorlax]
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Yeah those countries are tiny compared to the united states. Those countries equate to a regular city in population. I do agree with some philosophical points but economically it doesn't work. Europe isn't some crazy Utopia as many would like to think. That's just something that's made up. If you read experiences living in those countries it's actually pretty shitty.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Gorlax]
#22272134 - 09/21/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's not what people I've met from Europe tell me. I'm sure you can find shitty accounts if your read Right Wing websites and FB groups and stuff. And yeah there's no utopia, but there are ways we can change our system to make it a lot more functional and just.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22272143 - 09/21/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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In sweden and denmark? Those are the countries Bernie is referencing. They have pretty high standards of living.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: nicechrisman]
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Def don't go on any right wing websites. You can't look at a few countries and compare them to the US when we have a completely different economy and variables. Free health care would work if we produced a shit ton of gold/oil/etc and were the size of rhode island.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Gorlax]
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Free healthcare works if the government pretty much forces hospitals to cut down on the costs of medical treatment. The US has some of the highest medical costs in the world. And it's not because that's how much it actually costs.
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Achillita]
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Yeah it's high because it takes doctors 8 years to turn a profit. It's even worse for Surgeons who can only start turning a profit after like 12-14 years. If you think about how much debt they accumulate then it starts to make sense. Many hospitals are straight ridiculous though and those need to change.
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Achillita
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Gorlax]
#22272212 - 09/21/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also not to mention the inflated high price of most medical equipment and medicines.
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Adolin




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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Achillita]
#22272226 - 09/22/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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old news, and Paul Walker beat him to it 2 years ago
Edited by Adolin (09/22/15 12:02 AM)
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twighead
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Adolin]
#22272258 - 09/22/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Bernie Sanders plan is trash. He is already posting videos on shitty websites like worldstar to get victim votes. He just rambles about how he is going to get the top 15 richest people to somehow disperse their wealth and fix the country. which makes no sense legally and will never happen.
Then he claims he will make almost everything free. College would be free, healthcare, and 15$ min wage. Simply changing the number won't do shit besides just shift inflation higher. Then you have the estimate of cost that it would cost being upwards of 18 trillion. So if we are dumb enough to elect someone who wants to double the national debt we are truly fucked. He has no chance tho imo. Way too out there and will win like 2 states (cali and washington)
Lol that forbes smear article was good huh? Good if you know nothing about how they came up with that figure. 15 trillion of it was just estimated by the article writer because congress once came up with a single payer healthcare bill that would cost 15 trill over 10 years - but then consider that America pays 3 trillion a year for health care adjusted for the current rate of increase translates to 42 trillion on healthcare in the next 10 years. So 15 trillion - even if that was the cost for the healthcare bit (which his bill would likely be way more efficient..) isn't terrible. Then also take into account you're paying a lot for private medical insurance right now.. that would be a bygone cost. The other 3 trillion is for infrastructure and schools. Doesn't sound bad to me... And I don't think taxes (for 99% earners) would raise significantly either since he is very dedicated to closing corporate tax loopholes and subsidiaries... which are estimated to account for up to 1.6 to 2 trillion per year... that's a fuck ton right there. Then consider the tax rate on the highest bracket of earners, which in most of the US' history (of having an income tax) has gone from 94% during WWII... to 90% in the 50s... to 80-70% in the 70s... then Holy Reagan came in... and dropped it to 20%....... I think we can stand to tax billionaires a little more again, considering their wealth gain has been massive while median class income has stagnated.
Keep in mind little factoids that completely defeat what neo-cons would like you to think.... Minimum wage in AUS is ~15$/hr and the all holy 'big mac' index that they always cry about being 9$ if they raised minimum wage here is.... Wow! Oh! A big mac is 3.92 in Australia and 4.79 on average in the US. There goes that theory.
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Gorlax



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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: twighead]
#22272272 - 09/22/15 12:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mcdonalds is a massive corporation. The pricing of their "big mac" isn't going to reflect regular businesses that have to cough up the 15$ an hour.
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twighead
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Gorlax]
#22272282 - 09/22/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's a franchise in most (80%) locations, they are locally owned and ran.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22274363 - 09/22/15 02:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said: Most of the policies he talks about have already been very successfully implemented in other countries for decades now. The citizens of these countries rank among the happiest people on earth.
Socialism has failed everywhere. Tell me how happy the Greeks are. The Norwegians got away with it because of North Sea oil. Of course a lot of people are happy. You'd be happy too if you got taken care of withut having to work. The problem with that is that it eventually collapses. Every fucking time.
Trump is topped out. He is leading because there are so many candidates and he is a unique outlier who appeals to morons. Bush is a threat because of his money. Unless the field gets winnowed down theer will be a brokered convention and none of the establishment Republicans will accept Trump.
Bernie the cranky commie has no shot in the general election.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: Achillita]
#22274386 - 09/22/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: In sweden and denmark? Those are the countries Bernie is referencing. They have pretty high standards of living.
Wait until they get the influx of welfare cases flooding Europe. They had the advantage of being monolithic for a long time with a Protestant work ethic. They are being flooded by bums. Look at what is happening in Malmo
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150625/1023830315.html
They don't seem very happy.
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nicechrisman
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Re: Scott Walker is out of the race. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22274551 - 09/22/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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America is much more capable and has much more resources than Scandinavian countries. It's a shame more people don't believe in us.
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