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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22271034 - 09/21/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's how it was for me too.
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22271055 - 09/21/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would talk to other girls and let her hit you up.
Being fixated on one thing can blind you to cooler other things. Plus why would you give her that much power?
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: wigglewak]
#22271079 - 09/21/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wigglewak said: I would talk to other girls and let her hit you up.
Being fixated on one thing can blind you to cooler other things. Plus why would you give her that much power?
That's true. Should I just not hit her up until she calls me? I never get that call when I leave it like that though I really feel like there's no one out there for me except the girls that want to take my money and cheat on me
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22271086 - 09/21/15 07:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: I've eaten LSD in the midst of depression and it showed me my path I need to take. It felt like god patting me on the back and pushing me in the right direction
That is a great way of describing it, I prefer to use the term "universe" over god though.
Since many people tend to immediately associate that term with organized religions.
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I have never found tripping to be of any value for self reflection. I do that enough. I trip for laughs.
I reflect on stuff all the time too, that doesn't mean I always take action or use as wide of a perspective as I should though. A nice trip can make everything feel crystal clear though, being in a altered mind state allows for unique introspection that would have been harder if not impossible sober Not to mention all teh lessons you can learn if you are receptive.
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: sun_spots]
#22271092 - 09/21/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sun_spots said: I've tripped alone exactly once, and it was a tremendously helpful experience for me. I think the outcome depends a lot on the mindset going into it, but that's no surprise to anyone. I hope.
Almost all my trips these days are by myself. My wife does not like it (she has tried some of my previous grows. Psychs aren't her style) and I don't want to scare her if she sees me. I do not fuck around when I trip. That being said, no, it is just fun to me. I don't get all that navel gazing stuff that some people seem to relish from trips. But if it helps you with something knock yourself out.
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: musiclover420] 1
#22271103 - 09/21/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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musiclover420 said:
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zappaisgod said:
I have never found tripping to be of any value for self reflection. I do that enough. I trip for laughs.
I reflect on stuff all the time too, that doesn't mean I always take action or use as wide of a perspective as I should though. A nice trip can make everything feel crystal clear though, being in a altered mind state allows for unique introspection that would have been harder if not impossible sober Not to mention all teh lessons you can learn if you are receptive.
Every time I felt as if I had some profound revelation from tripping once I came down I realized how banal it was.
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22271113 - 09/21/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rebelutionsssss said: I've eaten LSD in the midst of depression and it showed me my path I need to take. It felt like god patting me on the back and pushing me in the right direction
love u 
I hope u find a mature true love, its out there, just takes lot of lots of searching....
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22271115 - 09/21/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well call her once or twice a week when you got something going on to show her you are interested.
Leave a voice mail along the lines of "I'm doing something fun... friends... music... bring your friends...."
If that doesn't work however there is nothing that calling her more will do. Your best bet will be going out and having a cool scene around you to maintain a network of party chicks until the right one stakes you out as her own.
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: wigglewak]
#22271135 - 09/21/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What a roller coaster, might be bi-polar
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#22271164 - 09/21/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seriously_trippin said: What a roller coaster, might be bi-polar
Am I bi polar, or the roller coaster?
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: zappaisgod]
#22271167 - 09/21/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Every time I felt as if I had some profound revelation from tripping once I came down I realized how banal it was.
Well from a sober perspective it is easy to not look at the big picture or even appreciate it. Keep in mind how important perspective is. We are very limited in the things we can perceive in a normal state, there is so much going on around us that modern society only now is discovering through science. Many ancient cultures understood many of these things though even though they lacked the technology to prove it. Black holes and the yin yang is a great example. If I was less baked I would go into more detail but it is pointless anyways I am sure, you are entitled to your opinion too.
That being said of course people on drugs are going to have random thoughts that feel important. Learning new things about the universe is amazing though.
I kind of wish I could trip just for fun these days as that would be pretty nice. That seems sacrilegious to me though
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: musiclover420]
#22271263 - 09/21/15 07:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think about the big picture every day. I think about the details every day. I don't need drugs to show me anything except a good time. I've had this discusson here before and people get upset but I trip to get a sore face from smiling for 8 hours and nothing more. That's just me. I am pretty clearly not unreflective if you have read enough of my posts.
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: zappaisgod]
#22271284 - 09/21/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am not saying you are unreflective, though I would say not enough people are in today's world in general.
I was just trying to point out that reflecting from a different perspective can be a very beneficial unique experience.
Not that people can't think from different perspectives sober but psychs really help to think outside of the box
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: musiclover420]
#22271285 - 09/21/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why would you quit opiates and kratom together? 
One of kratoms biggest benefits is being used to ween off of real opiates.
Then if you lower your krat dosage over time instead of just stopping cold turkey you can minimize withdrawals...
Cuz I felt like I was becoming dependant on opiates, and I tried to stop the smack and oxy by using kratom, but I feel like kratom was just giving me a little taste of opiates; which in turn made me want to do more. Every day I used kratom I ended up doing opiates the next.
Also kratom isn't the miracle its made out to be. Its basically like a weak opiate, it definetly IS addictive contrary to popular belief. And I found myself depressed on the days I didnt eat any krat. Not gunna use any opiates for a few good months
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: musiclover420]
#22271296 - 09/21/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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some people get intense enlightenment and guidance from their experiences and others just want a good time. both are awesome things, theres not like only one way to trip i just find i can integrate my revelations into my life a little easier than others
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Tybg]
#22271327 - 09/21/15 08:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kratom withdrawals very a ton person to person though. Seems most people who experience them badly are also coming off of other drugs or have existing habits.
I have definitely experienced some mild w/d from krat after prolonged use but I would place it in between cannabis, coffee, and junk food 
The point I was making is you should have tried just eating less and less kratom to stem the w/d until you didn't need any. It could have made it easier.
I get how it could also make you want more opiates though
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: musiclover420]
#22271419 - 09/21/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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im getting them bad. i need to start a taper schedule. ive been eating it everyday for months im falling apart guys
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22271447 - 09/21/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Literally just stop one day. Thats all it takes. LOTSSS of mental strain, but keep yourself busy, eat like shit, maybe smoke a shit ton of weed if you're into that kinda thing and do the things you love doing for that first week after you quit.
Also think of the benefits a long break of kratom will do for you. Opiates in general are a 1000x better after a little break, and I'm sure kratoms the same. Also your tolerance will be so low youll hardly have to eat any when you feel like doing it again.
Also you may get cravings that first week, but replace that craving with somethhing else. Maybe some tasty fast food; maybe some excercise.
Good thing is tho that you will literally have 0 craving after 1-2 weeks of not eating any
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
#22271487 - 09/21/15 08:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just try to stay positive man, think of ways you can improve your general mental and physical health as those will make you much happier in the long run.
I have been feeling pretty lonely lately myself but I know I should try and work on some personal issues before I try and get into a relationship.
I feel like when I a ready I will find someone worth the effort, I am sure the same goes for you perhaps.
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Good thing is tho that you will literally have 0 craving after 1-2 weeks of not eating any 
After months of daily once or twice kratom dosing I get like maybe 1-3 days of mild withdrawals 
For me it is more of a lack of anxiety from the kratom causes my regular anxiety to flood back feeling worse than usual since I was so elevated before.
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Re: You guys remeber how I loved life yesterday so much [Re: wigglewak]
#22271518 - 09/21/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wigglewak said:
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Seriously_trippin said: What a roller coaster, might be bi-polar
Am I bi polar, or the roller coaster?
I don't think this dude is going to respond. He may of gotten the reply to feature wrong.
I have to say it though...
What a indirect comment, YOU might be passive aggressive.
Har Har har...
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