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Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba?
    #22270482 - 09/21/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My back yard spits out about three pounds of alba per month.  Seriously.  It's like I live in some kind of magic forest (I kind of do).  Any-who, I was wondering whether A.M. var Alba contains muscimol.  And y'know, whether it contains enough other nasty stuff to actually be dangerous in typical 5-8 gram Muscaria doses.

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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22270514 - 09/21/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: Achillita]
    #22270516 - 09/21/15 05:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22270537 - 09/21/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I found some information on another thread here, maybe this will help.

http://www.shroomery.org/10224/Hunting-Fly-Agarics-in-North-America

"The specimens of this subspecies which are found to occur sparsely throughout Eurasia belong to the Eurasian clades of the muscaria group (since this is a guide to North American fly agarics, we're not overly concerned with them.  The specimens which occur scattered through North America are a morphological variant of the North American clade of the muscaria group, and will presumably be renamed as Amanita flavivolvata var. alba. These are as edible as other fly agarics, but because of their visual similarity to lethally toxic Amanita species, it is advised that the typical mushroom hunter not pick them. The novelty of eating a white-capped fly agaric is not worth the risk of eating a deadly Amanita."


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: FeedmeLSD]
    #22270586 - 09/21/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

.....hmm.  Soooo.  I guess if I could get an ironclad ID as var Alba, it would be a trip-in-a-fruiting-body.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22270638 - 09/21/15 05:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If that's what your interested in :P I heard it can be a pretty rough trip if you don't know what you're doing.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: FeedmeLSD]
    #22270716 - 09/21/15 06:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Are you talking about A muscaria in general?

That could be becouse of the heating/ drying step necessary to break down inactive toxins down into more active chemicals.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22270745 - 09/21/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nope.  I know you can take Muscaria, generally.  I just wanted to bake sure my Alba didn't have icky-killy stuff in it.  And yep, I'm gonna stick mine in the oven for about an hour on 300.  Should be fairly dry and well heated.

Edit: I'm not really scared of deliriants.  Yeah, they can turn out badly.  And yeah, sometimes it isn't fun.  But as long as I don't get killed simply by ingestion, I'm pretty sure I can handle a rough trip.  On a sidenote, I actually have made a (probably bad) habit of smoking angel trumpet leaves (about 0.1g at a time) before I go to sleep.  It's nice and calming, and makes for trippy dreams.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22270803 - 09/21/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I read earlier in a different muscaria thread 180 was the optimal temp, not 100% positive though.

Datura as a sleep aid sounds intense!

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Here is the qoute BTW:
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If you just simply dry them and eat them you run the risk of low potency as the mushroom MUST be brought to no higher than 180 degrees for about 10-20 mins allowing the inactive ingredients to convert to active  ingredients through a delicate process.




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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22270920 - 09/21/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm.  Thanks for the info!  I'll be sure to do that then! 

It's not bad at all.  Brugmansia, actually.  One of my dreams involved a giant rotating spiral of vines, overlayed with water, a bit like a roundabout.  My dream started at the end of a very greenery-stuffed stream filled with lillypads, along which I trekked until I reached the spiral.  On the spiral, brightly colored snails (as intelligent as humans, oddly, and capable of talking) were going about their daily lives.  Some of them approached 4 feet in height.  Off to one side, there was a large Versailles-like estate, in which Aristocrat snails spent their days drinking Bailey's and Kahlua.  Which happen to be my favorite drinks.  It was pretty funny.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22271051 - 09/21/15 07:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That sounds awesome! Thanks for sharing.

I may need to start growing some datura or brugsmansia as I have always been interested with microdosing especially.

Like combining a teeny bit with lsa for anti nausea effects and to maybe synergize a bit.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22271112 - 09/21/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, you should!  It's fun stuff, but I've never tried a full dose due to the high active/lethal dose ratio.

Tell me how that works out!  I mix it with a little sativa (I'm an easybake.  Lucky me!!) resulting in crazy trippy effects.  I was watching anime, then got lost in a sound that repeated for three seconds, but I perceived it as about five minutes.  It doesn't deserve the bad rap it has.

Also, could you rate me?  New user and all.  Having the "not rateed" thing hanging over my profile is disheartening.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22271129 - 09/21/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hmmm, I suppose I could. It has been awhile since I rated anyone and you seem like a chill friendly person :thumbup:

I love anime too :lol:

Are you saying salvia doesn't deserve the bad rap it has or datura/ brugsmansia? They both a pretty infamous.

I don't use salvia anymore but I do love growing it and intend to delve back into its realm later in life when I am more ready.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22271160 - 09/21/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I said sativa, actually.  Y'know, the high THC variant of cannibis.

You too! :smile:  What anime have you watched?  If the answer is "too many to list", what is your favorite?

And I meant datura/brugmansia.  I haven't tried salvia, but it sounds like it's actually not bad if you chew it instead of smoking.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22271256 - 09/21/15 07:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: I guess I am pretty out of it, thanks kratom :kratomtee: vaped some hash oil too which is no doubt contributing :tongue2:

Trigun
Samurai Champloo
Cowboy Bebop

Those are probably my alltime favorite 3 but I love a ton:

Space Dandy, Mushishi, most of the .hacks, FLCL, Ghost In The Shell, Lupin The Third, Stiens: Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, Welcome To The NHK, Hellsing, Kinos Journey, any Myazaki movie especially, Princess Mononoke, Valley Of the Wind, Totoro, and pretty much all his other stuff :cool: That is what comes to mind but I dig a lot of random stuff. Bobobo-bo-bobobo is fucking weird as fuck.


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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22271287 - 09/21/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hehehe.  We should be friends.  And Cowboy Bebop is great.


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22271311 - 09/21/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I have not watched it in awhile but it is great indeed. Love the soundtrack too :thumbup:


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I talk to myself, I need nobody else. I'm lost and I'm mine, yes I'm free



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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22271387 - 09/21/15 08:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22271417 - 09/21/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22271461 - 09/21/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: ReaperAndRaven]
    #22271493 - 09/21/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was like what I don't see no message on here :lol:


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Re: Can you eat A. Muscaria var Alba? [Re: Achillita]
    #22271715 - 09/21/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm planning to go harvest a couple pounds tomorrow, and bake 'em up.  I'll try some soon.  I'll be sure to post a trip report!


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