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home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate?
    #22270133 - 09/21/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i was wondering if the home depot steer manure and vermiculite had any good results. i heard on shroomery the steer manure is sprayed with fungicide, but im not sure . i thought what if u mixed the steer manure with coco coir gypsum vermiculite. does anyone think it would have good results ?


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: Trippymushie]
    #22270302 - 09/21/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If it has fungicides then you most definitely do not want to use it for a fungus cultivation...make sure you read the label or ask someone before you make that mistake.


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22270743 - 09/21/15 06:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If it has fungicides then you most definitely do not want to use it for a fungus cultivation...make sure you read the label or ask someone before you make that mistake.



:justno:fungicides only work to stop spores not mycelium so it won't have any effect when used as a bulk sub, i'm yet to see any steer manure sprayed with fungicide but if it was it would be labeled as such, mix it 50/50 and make sure to dry the manure out on  a tarp first


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #22270863 - 09/21/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well OP, I apologize for the misinformation...I was (still am) uneducated about how fungicides work...and cronicr thank you for the quick correction , as well as the gem of information... looks like I need to hit the books.


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #22270866 - 09/21/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've used the stuff plenty times before. ITs not the ideal stuff but it works. I use it for whenever I throw spawn out,  I mix a little of that with it and put it in a hole and I get more mushies in my patch later


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #22270890 - 09/21/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard the steer manure turns kinda muddy and gross and is a pain to work with but I've never used it personally.

I would at least add some coir into the mix, and a hand full of gypsum.

My favorite substrate, is coir , gypsum, vermiculite and pasturized straw. Bales of straw are easy to get this time of year and its really easy to pasturized

I bucket tek. The coir and then pasteurized the straw and mix together


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: mushpunx]
    #22270911 - 09/21/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

so do you think it would work this home depot steer manure in a bulk sub. do u have to have special vermiculite or is this home depot one fine ? i was thinking half a brick of coir and eyeball and mix in the steer manure with verm spent coffee grounds gypsum you thk it would hav  i really appreciate the response.


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: Trippymushie]
    #22270924 - 09/21/15 06:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yeah you can mix it with whatever ya want just use no more then 50% manure


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #22270945 - 09/21/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Me personally Id leave out the coffee, go like 50% coir 25% manure 25% verm hand full gypsum something like that


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: cronicr]
    #22270992 - 09/21/15 07:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

good lookin out cronicr and everyone else
ok  to verify things this steer manure from home depot will work in a bulk sub and best mixed with coir im just making sure. i would use mostly coir and the steer manure to bulk it up. i really appreciate the quick responses


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: Trippymushie]
    #22271005 - 09/21/15 07:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yea you just have to properly pasturize it, between 140 and 170 F for 1 hour


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Re: home depot steer manure and vermiculite bulk substrate? [Re: mushpunx]
    #22271141 - 09/21/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yea you just have to properly pasturize it, between 140 and 170 F for 1 hour



Definitely make sure to do this, that stuff contaminates easily. The muddy texture can be fixed with coir and lots o verm. If you need an easy way to pasteurize I recommend the "improved bucket tek" (someones not gonna like that I said that lol) I've had great success with it. I put my ingredients (coir/hpoo/verm/gypsum) into a thick black trash bag and place that into a bucket. I break the coir brick up as much as possible so that I can mix it easily with the hpoo and verm. I then boil to pots of water, one at 170F that goes into the sub mix and one at 185F that goes into a second bucket that I've wrapped the sides of in an emergency blanket and another small, regular blanket over that. After pouring the 185F into the second bucket I place the first bucket into the second bucket, pour the 170F water onto the sub mix, put a thermometer probe into it and put the lid on. I wrap that all in one more blanket and set a timer for 2 hours. When I come back 2 hours later the temp is at 155F


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