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We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke......
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Weed, DMT, Mescaline, Psilocybin/Psilocin, LSD (all psychedelics) are schedule one drugs, where Methamphetamine, Cocaine (also crack cocaine), PCP, & Morphine are schedule 2 drugs. This makes no fucking logical sense. Our government would rather have us smoking crack rocks and becoming a fucking rock chaser than using psychedelics. This is literal tyranny, also heroin is schedule one but morphine is schedule 2? wtf when your body takes in heroin it breaks it down into morphine....its the same fucking thing...but Morphine is a schedule 2 and heroins schedule one because Uncle Sam/Big Pharma is the one selling you the morphine. They don't care whether a substance is addicting or destructive, its only a front justification to surpress peoples access to real substances that could actually help. The only drugs that are legal are the profitable, addictive ones that don't make you think too much. We don't live in Nazi Germany but were getting there. The gov't is even partially responsible for introducing crack into america in order to help fund the cold war. (Crack in the System is a good documentary explaining how they indirectly manufactured and distrubuted it in impoverished neighborhoods that were "expendable") Idk sorry for the rant but this is just crazy. Smoke Cigarettes, Drink Alcohol, refill your prescriptions, get coked out of your mind but god forbid you smoke a plant or eat a mushroom thats found naturally..
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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Just the way it is I guess, hasn't stopped you though has it? It's all just words.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: goldcaphunter]
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: goldcaphunter]
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Not all parts of society are like that
There are places where weed and psychedelics are generally not frowned upon, but people are always gonna judge no matter where you live
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: goldcaphunter]
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It hasn't stopped me, but thats only because i haven't been caught. If i got caught I'd be fucked in the ass and thrown in jail probably not in that order. Its always in the back of my head and whenever i have weed/mushrooms etc on me and im never 100% comfortable even in my own appartment because i know i could be seriously fucked over for it, more so than if i was caught with crack of PCP. thats what pisses me off
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269145 - 09/21/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's easy not to get busted
Just be smart, don't deal and keep your illicit activities completely under the radar at all times
I've never been busted and I don't plan on letting it happen in the future
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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I don't think anyone plans on being busted...but it happens plenty.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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Not if you're smart and don't put yourself in situations where it's bound to happen
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: OhMrJohnson]
#22269163 - 09/21/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And its honestly mostly the fact that we allow a government to write laws that are so extremely illogical and unfair. The drug scheduling laws seriously make NO SENSE. Its just purely agenda driven. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269191 - 09/21/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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MysticMoteToter said: thats found naturally..
Yeah alright, but this here is a pretty weak argument.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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ghb is schedule I or schedule III
i still don't understand how the hell that works
and 1,4-butanediol is legal in most states even though it's a direct prodrug
yeah our drug laws aren't screwed up
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
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How is that a weak argument...its illogical to make something that grows naturally illegal its impossible to effectively enforce yet you'll still get barred if you're caught with it. Im not saying synthetic drugs are inherently better or worse for an individual, e.g. natural drugs such as opium from poppy flower can obviously become problematic, but "drugs" such as these don't require the use of dangerous chemicals to synthesize, naturally occurring drugs have a much lower content of active ingredients than manufactured ones. It doesn't make sense
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269233 - 09/21/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most (if not all) of the drugs you've mentioned are out of schedule I because they have an established medical use, according to the legal definition of the term.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269256 - 09/21/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My boner grows all naturally but it's still illegal if I just whip it out and stick it into some random woman in the street. Now that is something that we need to start a movement against.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: badchad]
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Man....reread the Controlled Substances Act. DMT Schedule 1, LSD Schedule 1, Psilocybin Schedule 1, Cannabis and all its cannibinoids Schedule 1, implying its severely addictive and has no accepted medicinal use. However, PCP Schedule 2, Cocaine Schedule 2, Methamphetamine Schedule 2. I'd love for you to show me how im incorrect but theyve only made more penalties with the revisions to it.
Harsh Penalty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act Even Harsher Penalty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Penalties_Amendments_Act_of_1984
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
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Now this I can get on board with.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269289 - 09/21/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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MysticMoteToter said: Man....reread the Controlled Substances Act. DMT Schedule 1, LSD Schedule 1, Psilocybin Schedule 1, Cannabis and all its cannibinoids Schedule 1, implying its severely addictive and has no accepted medicinal use. However, PCP Schedule 2, Cocaine Schedule 2, Methamphetamine Schedule 2. I'd love for you to show me how im incorrect but theyve only made more penalties with the revisions to it.
Many of those substances are in commercially approved drug products. In order to receive a drug approval, large and well-controlled clinical trials must be performed to establish "medical use." Once you receive an approval, it gets you out of Schedule I status.
To be clear "medical use" has a (relatively) well-defined meaning. A suggestive study isn't anywhere near establishing "medical use" and many people don't understand that.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269298 - 09/21/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Schedule 2 = The System says these drugs on the street are bad for you.
Schedule 1 = Drugs that let you "think outside the [System's] box" are bad for you and the System.
From what I've heard, it's almost impossible to get government approval and research funding for Schedule 1 drugs in order to study them for medicinal use and get them to Schedule 2.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
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Yeah alright, but this here is a pretty weak argument.
tobacco- grown naturally cocaine- grown naturally and extracted meth- grown naturally, (probably not what you're smoking, but this is a fact) alcohol- grown naturally via yeast excrement opiates- grown naturally sclopamine- grown naturally horse semen- grown naturally coffee- grown naturally.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: stevo]
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From what I've heard, it's almost impossible to get government approval and research funding for Schedule 1 drugs in order to study them for medicinal use and get them to Schedule 2.
This is more of a funding issue. ANY phase 3 clinical trial is enormous and expensive, which is why they're always funded by pharma.
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The DEA themselves filed a patent for using marijuana as a neuroprotectant and antitumor drug actually. It is still schedule 1.
A patent isn't a clinical trial. I can patent whatever I want, and most companies will patent a drug simply based on its structure.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
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Salomon said: meth- grown naturally, (probably not what you're smoking, but this is a fact)
Please show me the meth plant.
Don't bother with the horse semen though. I think I can picture that.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
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What are you talking about horse semen is made in laboratories
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: OhMrJohnson]
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I believe it's grown naturally but extracted in labs.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
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Please show me the meth plant.
Don't bother with the horse semen though. I think I can picture that.
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Yeah alright, but this here is a pretty weak argument.
tobacco- grown naturally cocaine- grown naturally and extracted meth- grown naturally, (probably not what you're smoking, but this is a fact) alcohol- grown naturally via yeast excrement opiates- grown naturally sclopamine- grown naturally horse semen- grown naturally coffee- grown naturally.
Cocaine must be further processed from cocoa leaf to make it cocaine...it also requires the use of tone of chemicals to do it, same with everything on there aside from horse semen, coffee and some tobaccos (even though most tobacco is seriously processed to the point where conventional cigs shouldnt even be considered tobacco. Even scopalmine* needs to be extracted from the datura plant to be strong enough to not have to eat a shit ton of seeds. You are either extremely unable to get the concept of what a natural drugs is. i.e. it grows from the ground and is ready as is or you're a very bad troll.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
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Please show me the meth plant.
Don't bother with the horse semen though. I think I can picture that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalia_berlandieri
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S. berlandieri contains a number of diverse alkaloids, the most plentiful of which are N-methylphenethylamine, tyramine, and phenethylamine.[3] The total alkaloid content in dried leaves has been reported to be in the range 0.28-0.66%.[8] In a recent study, researchers identified thirty-one alkaloids in samples of plant foliage, including trace amounts of four amphetamines previously known only from laboratory synthesis: amphetamine, methamphetamine, para-hydroxyamphetamine and para-methoxyamphetamine. Other trace alkaloids include nicotine, and mescaline (found in many cacti but infrequently in other plants).[3] The same group of researchers later reported finding most of the same alkaloids in A. rigidula, a related species also native to the Southwestern U.S.[9] There are no reports in the literature of these findings having been repeated, however, leading to the suggestion that they resulted from cross-contamination or were possibly artifacts of the analytical technique.[10]
i honestly don't see how you could accidentally extract meth out of a tree,
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: stevo]
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stevo said:I wonder how mushrooms would size up though penaltywise. Everyone Ive known to get busted with cocaine serves a 10 year sentence. There's been a few people here caught with mushrooms, cultivating them even, and they still post.
I got caught with 2 lbs back in mass and a few thousand in cash...
There wasn't any trafficking charge for mushrooms in Mass though, at least not then (this was like 13 or 14 years ago) and I got it busted down to possession on a plead bargain to pay $250 court costs and get the hell out of the state. hah
edit: oh yeah, a few oz. of weed too
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Please show me the meth plant.
Don't bother with the horse semen though. I think I can picture that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalia_berlandieri
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I do understand from that wiki page that the finding of many of those alkaloids may have been the result of contamination. Fucking lab rats spilling their meth all over the place again.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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Yeah alright, but this here is a pretty weak argument.
tobacco- grown naturally cocaine- grown naturally and extracted meth- grown naturally, (probably not what you're smoking, but this is a fact) alcohol- grown naturally via yeast excrement opiates- grown naturally sclopamine- grown naturally horse semen- grown naturally coffee- grown naturally.
Cocaine must be further processed from cocoa leaf to make it cocaine...it also requires the use of tone of chemicals to do it, same with everything on there aside from horse semen, coffee and some tobaccos (even though most tobacco is seriously processed to the point where conventional cigs shouldnt even be considered tobacco. Even scopalmine* needs to be extracted from the datura plant to be strong enough to not have to eat a shit ton of seeds. You are either extremely unable to get the concept of what a natural drugs is. i.e. it grows from the ground and is ready as is or you're a very bad troll.
extracting cocaine is just as easy as extracting dmt. and yea, you need acids, bases, and solvents.. thats why i used the word, EXTRACTED. meth can be extracted from tree bark just the same as dmt or coke.it was produced by a plant, i'm just separating it from the rest of the plant matter. and if you're not retarded at drugs, you can end up with a drug naturally produced with barely any of the associated chemicals in it, like for example BHO from weed. it's all the same shit
i smoke cigarettes that i grew in my backyard, 
datura needs not to be extracted to experience sclopamine, like you said yourself, just eat a handful of seeds, lol to be strong enough with out extracting, give me a fucking break, crack open a seed pod and munch away, then tell me you need to extract.
coffee dosent need anything done to it aside from some roasting for flavour, you can brew green beans.
and alcohol, i can throw grapes in a jug for a few months with some micro-orgasms and boom alcohol.
all natural, you're just a wook
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
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stevo said: Yea why does all the cool shit grow in mexico?
and texas
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i was thinking, like maybe they happened to pick a tree where somebody had recently dumped a gallon of meth? lol only one way to find out
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
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More like, boom, moldy vinegar.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
#22269608 - 09/21/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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fine mr fussy britches, some cane sugar, water, and yeast
. i'm not a wine maker
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
#22269633 - 09/21/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon] 1
#22269750 - 09/21/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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extracting cocaine is just as easy as extracting dmt. and yea, you need acids, bases, and solvents.. thats why i used the word, EXTRACTED. meth can be extracted from tree bark just the same as dmt or coke.it was produced by a plant, i'm just separating it from the rest of the plant matter. and if you're not retarded at drugs, you can end up with a drug naturally produced with barely any of the associated chemicals in it, like for example BHO from weed. it's all the same shit
i smoke cigarettes that i grew in my backyard, 
datura needs not to be extracted to experience sclopamine, like you said yourself, just eat a handful of seeds, lol to be strong enough with out extracting, give me a fucking break, crack open a seed pod and munch away, then tell me you need to extract.
coffee dosent need anything done to it aside from some roasting for flavour, you can brew green beans.
and alcohol, i can throw grapes in a jug for a few months with some micro-orgasms and boom alcohol.
all natural, you're just a wook 
hey buddy, hey smart guy.... ALL NATURAL does not mean DERIVED FROM NATURE, Natural means you find it in nature and in the form it is found it is able to be used as is. You're so smaht budd under your assumption of whats natural cesium-137 is natural because it comes from nuclear radiation which is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
#22269762 - 09/21/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Salomon said: meth can be extracted from tree bark just the same as dmt or coke.
I dunno... It said "trace amounts" and there were a lot of different alkaloids so you might have a hard time.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269791 - 09/21/15 02:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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MysticMoteToter said:
extracting cocaine is just as easy as extracting dmt. and yea, you need acids, bases, and solvents.. thats why i used the word, EXTRACTED. meth can be extracted from tree bark just the same as dmt or coke.it was produced by a plant, i'm just separating it from the rest of the plant matter. and if you're not retarded at drugs, you can end up with a drug naturally produced with barely any of the associated chemicals in it, like for example BHO from weed. it's all the same shit
i smoke cigarettes that i grew in my backyard, 
datura needs not to be extracted to experience sclopamine, like you said yourself, just eat a handful of seeds, lol to be strong enough with out extracting, give me a fucking break, crack open a seed pod and munch away, then tell me you need to extract.
coffee dosent need anything done to it aside from some roasting for flavour, you can brew green beans.
and alcohol, i can throw grapes in a jug for a few months with some micro-orgasms and boom alcohol.
all natural, you're just a wook 
hey buddy, hey smart guy.... ALL NATURAL does not mean DERIVED FROM NATURE, Natural means you find it in nature and in the form it is found it is able to be used as is. You're so smaht budd under your assumption of whats natural cesium-137 is natural because it comes from nuclear radiation which is a naturally occurring phenomenon.
aye buddy guy, the sun is a big ball of nuclear fusion, irradiating the earth and doing shit like making plants grow, ZOMG RADIATION MAKES WEED
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
#22269808 - 09/21/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good job, you passed elementary school and have a decent concept of photosynthesis. next step is high school.
Edit: A G.E.D. might be more up your alley
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
#22269812 - 09/21/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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and really all your argument is based on % concentration with in a plant.
IE if coca leaves contained 90% cocaine and you could just chop up some dried leaves and snort them, they'd be more natural by your reasoning.
just because some plants have smaller concentrations of drugs in them, makes their occurrence and use no less natural.
like being able to eat shrooms that are 90+% water.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
#22269836 - 09/21/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And yes if you could dry, powder and get a cocaine high without doing anything to cocoa leaves yes they would be considered ALL NATURAL, however since they are not Cocaine is not natural but it is DERIVED FROM a natural plant. That plant being the cocoa leaf. You need to read more and get a better grip on the subtlties of the english language bro broh
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269844 - 09/21/15 02:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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you need to get some ice on that butthurt
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
#22269856 - 09/21/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nahh but i do need to ice my dick from beating it off so hard and getting off to your stupidity
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269860 - 09/21/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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melt harder
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: Salomon]
#22269875 - 09/21/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for being of service boo boo, but I'm done with you now. heres some cab fare. Don't let your ego make you look like an idiot in real life.
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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
#22269888 - 09/21/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol you're the one who got all emotional about this, trying to shame me with your wook wisdom.
i'm just seeing how far i can take this at this point
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