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OfflineMysticMoteToter
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We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke......
    #22269121 - 09/21/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Weed, DMT, Mescaline, Psilocybin/Psilocin, LSD (all psychedelics) are schedule one drugs, where Methamphetamine, Cocaine (also crack cocaine), PCP, & Morphine are schedule 2 drugs.  This makes no fucking logical sense. Our government would rather have us smoking crack rocks and becoming a fucking rock chaser than using psychedelics. This is literal tyranny, also heroin is schedule one but morphine is schedule 2? wtf when your body takes in heroin it breaks it down into morphine....its the same fucking thing...but Morphine is a schedule 2 and heroins schedule one because Uncle Sam/Big Pharma is the one selling you the morphine.  They don't care whether a substance is addicting or destructive, its only a front justification to surpress peoples access to real substances that could actually help. The only drugs that are legal are the profitable, addictive ones that don't make you think too much.  We don't live in Nazi Germany but were getting there. The gov't is even partially responsible for introducing crack into america in order to help fund the cold war. (Crack in the System is a good documentary explaining how they indirectly manufactured and distrubuted it in impoverished neighborhoods that were "expendable") Idk sorry for the rant but this is just crazy. Smoke Cigarettes, Drink Alcohol, refill your prescriptions, get coked out of your mind but god forbid you smoke a plant or eat a mushroom thats found naturally..


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269130 - 09/21/15 12:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just the way it is I guess, hasn't stopped you though has it? It's all just words. :shrug:


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22269138 - 09/21/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22269141 - 09/21/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not all parts of society are like that

There are places where weed and psychedelics are generally not frowned upon, but people are always gonna judge no matter where you live


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #22269143 - 09/21/15 12:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It hasn't stopped me, but thats only because i haven't been caught. If i got caught I'd be fucked in the ass and thrown in jail probably not in that order. Its always in the back of my head and whenever i have weed/mushrooms etc on me and im never 100% comfortable even in my own appartment because i know i could be seriously fucked over for it, more so than if i was caught with crack of PCP. thats what pisses me off


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269145 - 09/21/15 12:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's easy not to get busted

Just be smart, don't deal and keep your illicit activities completely under the radar at all times

I've never been busted and I don't plan on letting it happen in the future


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22269151 - 09/21/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think anyone plans on being busted...but it happens plenty. :tongue:


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269154 - 09/21/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not if you're smart and don't put yourself in situations where it's bound to happen


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #22269163 - 09/21/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And its honestly mostly the fact that we allow a government to write laws that are so extremely illogical and unfair. The drug scheduling laws seriously make NO SENSE. Its just purely agenda driven.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269191 - 09/21/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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thats found naturally..



Yeah alright, but this here is a pretty weak argument.


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269193 - 09/21/15 12:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ghb is schedule I or schedule III

i still don't understand how the hell that works

and 1,4-butanediol is legal in most states even though it's a direct prodrug

yeah our drug laws aren't screwed up :rolleyes:


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
    #22269224 - 09/21/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How is that a weak argument...its illogical to make something that grows naturally illegal its impossible to effectively enforce yet you'll still get barred if you're caught with it. Im not saying synthetic drugs are inherently better or worse for an individual, e.g. natural drugs such as opium from poppy flower can obviously become problematic, but "drugs" such as these don't require the use of dangerous chemicals to synthesize, naturally occurring drugs have a much lower content of active ingredients than manufactured ones.  It doesn't make sense


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269233 - 09/21/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Most (if not all) of the drugs you've mentioned are out of schedule I because they have an established medical use, according to the legal definition of the term.


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269256 - 09/21/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My boner grows all naturally but it's still illegal if I just whip it out and stick it into some random woman in the street. Now that is something that we need to start a movement against.


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: badchad]
    #22269272 - 09/21/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Man....reread the Controlled Substances Act. DMT Schedule 1, LSD Schedule 1, Psilocybin Schedule 1, Cannabis and all its cannibinoids Schedule 1, implying its severely addictive and has no accepted medicinal use. However, PCP Schedule 2, Cocaine Schedule 2, Methamphetamine Schedule 2.  I'd love for you to show me how im incorrect but theyve only made more penalties with the revisions to it.

Harsh Penalty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act
Even Harsher Penalty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Penalties_Amendments_Act_of_1984


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
    #22269274 - 09/21/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Now this I can get on board with. :thumbup:


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269289 - 09/21/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Man....reread the Controlled Substances Act. DMT Schedule 1, LSD Schedule 1, Psilocybin Schedule 1, Cannabis and all its cannibinoids Schedule 1, implying its severely addictive and has no accepted medicinal use. However, PCP Schedule 2, Cocaine Schedule 2, Methamphetamine Schedule 2.  I'd love for you to show me how im incorrect but theyve only made more penalties with the revisions to it.





Many of those substances are in commercially approved drug products. In order to receive a drug approval, large and well-controlled clinical trials must be performed to establish "medical use." Once you receive an approval, it gets you out of Schedule I status.

To be clear "medical use" has a (relatively) well-defined meaning. A suggestive study isn't anywhere near establishing "medical use" and many people don't understand that.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22269298 - 09/21/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Schedule 2 = The System says these drugs on the street are bad for you.

Schedule 1 = Drugs that let you "think outside the [System's] box" are bad for you and the System.


From what I've heard, it's almost impossible to get government approval and research funding for Schedule 1 drugs in order to study them for medicinal use and get them to Schedule 2.


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Re: We americans live in a society where marijuana/mushrooms/acid/DMT, are worse than meth & coke...... [Re: koraks]
    #22269314 - 09/21/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

MysticMoteToter said:
thats found naturally..



Yeah alright, but this here is a pretty weak argument.



tobacco- grown naturally
cocaine- grown naturally and extracted
meth- grown naturally, (probably not what you're smoking, but this is a fact)
alcohol- grown naturally via yeast excrement
opiates- grown naturally
sclopamine- grown naturally
horse semen- grown naturally
coffee- grown naturally.


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