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Invisibleenlightened seed
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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #22326072 - 10/02/15 09:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

an intelligent design of some sorts?  i believe that there is a higher power than god(s), but hey i could be wrong.  i have long wondered where everything comes from.


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: enlightened seed] * 1
    #22329485 - 10/03/15 05:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Big Bang has never seemed like truth to me at all


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: enlightened seed]
    #22329514 - 10/03/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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enlightened seed said:
i have long wondered where everything comes from.




Me too, always will.
I could never replace my question mark with a period or exclamation point in regards to these things and will always distrust and laugh at those who claim to have the answer.
Always.


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #22329523 - 10/03/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Just for that, I am not telling!  :razz:

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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #22329669 - 10/03/15 06:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I have all the answers I need right here.

Bible means: Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. :thumbup:

The ONLY math a man needs to get by in this world is this.

3 nails + 1 cross = 4given.

3 nails + 1 cross = 4given.

3 nails + 1 cross = 4given.

:mindblown:


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #22329699 - 10/03/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

3 nails + 2 planks = 5given.


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #22329779 - 10/03/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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AS long as the human mind does not directly experience Ultimate Reality as it is, the mind is baffled in every attempt to explain the origin and purpose of creation. The ancient past seems to be shrouded in inscrutable mystery and the future seems to be a completely sealed book. The human mind can at best make brilliant conjectures about the past and the future of the universe, because it is bound by the spell of Maya. It can neither arrive at final knowledge on these points nor can it remain content with ignorance about them. “Whence?” and “Whither?” are the two everlasting and poignant queries which make the human mind divinely restless.

        The human mind cannot reconcile itself to infinite regress in its search for the origin of the world, nor can it reconcile itself to endless change without a goal. Evolution is unintelligible if it has no initial cause, and it is deprived of all direction and meaning if it all does not lead to a terminus. The very questions “Whence?” and “Whither?” presuppose the beginning and end of this evolving creation. The beginning of evolution is the beginning of time and the end of evolution is the end of time. Evolution has both beginning and end because time has both beginning and end.

        Between the beginning and the end of this changing world there are many cycles, but there is, in and through these cycles, a continuity of cosmic evolution. The real termination of the evolutionary process is called Mahapralaya or the final annihilation of the world, when the world becomes what it was in the beginning, namely nothing. The Mahapralaya of the world may be compared with the sleep of a man. Just as the varied world of experience completely disappears for the man who is in deep sleep, the entire objective cosmos which is the creation of Maya vanishes into nothingness at the time of Mahapralaya. It is as if the universe had never existed at all.

        Even during the evolutionary period the universe is in itself nothing but imagination. There is in fact only one indivisible and eternal Reality and it has neither beginning nor end. Reality is timeless and absolute It is beyond time. From the point of view of this timeless Reality the whole time-process is purely imaginary, and billions of years which have passed and billions of years which are to pass do not have even the value of a second. It is as if they had not existed at all.

        So the manifold and evolving universe cannot be said to be a real outcome of this one Reality. If it were an outcome of this one Reality, Reality would be either a relative term or a composite being, which it is not. The one Reality is absolute. The one Reality includes in itself all existence. It is Everything, but it has Nothing as its shadow. The idea of all-inclusive existence implies that it leaves nothing outside its being. When you analyse the idea of being, you arrive by implication at the idea of that which does not exist. This idea of non-existence or “Nothing” helps you to define clearly our notion of being. The complementary aspect of Being is thus Non-Being or Nothing. But “Nothing” cannot be looked upon as having its own separate and independent existence. It is nothing in itself. Nor can it, in itself, be a cause of anything. The manifold and evolving universe cannot be the outcome of “Nothing” taken by itself, and you have seen that it also cannot be the outcome of the one Reality. How then does the manifold and evolving universe arise?

        The manifold evolving universe arises from the mixing of the one Reality and “Nothing.” It springs out of “Nothing” when this “Nothing” is taken against the background of the one Reality. But this should not be taken to mean that the universe is partly the outcome of the one Reality, or that it has an element of Reality. It is an outcome of “Nothing” and is nothing. It only seems to have existence. Its apparent existence is due to the one Reality which is, as it were, behind “Nothing.” When “Nothing” is added to the one Reality, the result is the manifold and evolving universe.

        The one Reality which is infinite and absolute does not thereby suffer any modification. It is absolute and is as such entirely unaffected by any addition or subtraction. The one Reality remains what it was, complete and absolute in itself and unconcerned and unconnected with the panorama of creation that springs out of “Nothing.” “Nothing” might be compared to the value of “zero” in mathematics. In itself it has no positive value, but when it is added to another number it gives rise to the many. In the same way the manifold and evolving universe springs out of “Nothing” when it is combined with the one Reality.

The whole evolutionary process is within the domain of imagination. When in imagination the one ocean of Reality gets apparently disturbed, there arises the manifold world of separate centres of consciousness. This involves the basic division of life into the self and not-self, or the “I” and its environment. Owing to the falseness and the incompleteness of this limited self (which is only an imagined part of a really indivisible totality), consciousness cannot remain content with eternal identification with it. Thus consciousness is trapped in ceaseless restlessness, forcing it to attempt identification with the not-self. That portion of the not-self, or the environment with which consciousness succeeds in identifying itself, gets affiliated with the self in the form of “mine”; and that portion of the not-self, with which it does not succeed in identifying itself, becomes irreducible environment which inevitably creates a limit and an opposition to the self.






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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: soldatheero]
    #22330089 - 10/03/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

i question jesus and the bible.  it seems like something disney would manufacture.  besides he is not the only god people worldwide worship.


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: enlightened seed]
    #22330096 - 10/03/15 08:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

where are jesus's remains? exactly!:drag:


Edited by enlightened seed (10/03/15 08:21 PM)


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: connectedcosmos]
    #22330125 - 10/03/15 08:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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connectedcosmos said:
Before the big bang there was likely existence how did that come into play? Discuss



Doesn't matter. You'll figure that out after death


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Re: how did existence begin? [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22332439 - 10/04/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

im glad you asked young whipersnaper the big bang was me farting as i took a huge shit even my waste is epic


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