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Agar to Hpoo
    #22267138 - 09/20/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry if these are some questions that have been asked before a thousand times, but I've not been able to find the right answers by browsing.

-lets say I've got several agar jars colonized. I don't want to mess around with grain for a little bit and try something else. Can I take a certain amount of agar and put it into a pasteurized spawn bag with Hpoo, vermiculite, coir, and gypsum mixed and brought to field capacity?
If so how much agar?
-now lets say I've knocked up those bags with agar and they do great. Then could I just put the bags in trays and then place the trays in a SGFC? Or maybe be able to do a monotub from there.


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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: UnicornGlitter]
    #22267188 - 09/20/15 09:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

first if the subs been pasturized already then it should already be at field capacity.second my GUESS is youd wanna do agar LI. but youre main problems would likely be water content being thrown off, and the distribution of inoc points in  a bulk sub. without a decent amount of jumping points it might take longer to colonize or leave one whole chunk without any inoc point, making it take longer and therfor more succeptable to contams


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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: aerow.thefox]
    #22267278 - 09/20/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Seems like it would take a lot of agar. Try and see.


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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: UnicornGlitter]
    #22267584 - 09/20/15 11:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It wouldn't be nutritious enough to provide much would be my guess.  you should try it and report back. A simple solution would be adding a bunch of BRF in with it, bringing to field capacity, throwin in bags, then innoculating them.  You could still avoid grains (they really aren't that bad) and most likely have good results.

Also, if it was me Id most likely just fruit the bags in monotubs.  make sure the poly is loose enough so they get good FAE. 

SGFC would probably work better out the gate if you are in to misting twice a day.  Monos will work fine you just may have to dial them in a little.  Your hole configuration would probably be better if it was at the sub height of where the bags will sit. 

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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: Big Bear]
    #22267649 - 09/20/15 11:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

An agar wedge that wasn't 100% fully colonized would have a good chance of contaming. Yields would also probably suffer. Much of the nutrition is derived from the grain and we spawn to bulk more to provide water than provide nutes. Not saying it won't work, but I doubt the returns would justify the effort.


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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22267679 - 09/20/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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but I doubt the returns would justify the effort.



not that it matters much but seconded..


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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22267725 - 09/21/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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An agar wedge that wasn't 100% fully colonized would have a good chance of contaming. Yields would also probably suffer. Much of the nutrition is derived from the grain and we spawn to bulk more to provide water than provide nutes. Not saying it won't work, but I doubt the returns would justify the effort.



But since it's manure, it'd have plenty of nutrients, no? I mean wild cubes grow on manure:shrug:

But I've never had an agar wedge fully colonize around until after spawning to grain. It'd probably depend heavily on that to work well.


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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: UnicornGlitter]
    #22267907 - 09/21/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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UnicornGlitter said:
I'm sorry if these are some questions that have been asked before a thousand times, but I've not been able to find the right answers by browsing.

-lets say I've got several agar jars colonized. I don't want to mess around with grain for a little bit and try something else. Can I take a certain amount of agar and put it into a pasteurized spawn bag with Hpoo, vermiculite, coir, and gypsum mixed and brought to field capacity?
If so how much agar?
-now lets say I've knocked up those bags with agar and they do great. Then could I just put the bags in trays and then place the trays in a SGFC? Or maybe be able to do a monotub from there.




It was only asked two days ago.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22255512#22255512


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Re: Agar to Hpoo [Re: Achillita]
    #22268102 - 09/21/15 04:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Achillita said:
But since it's manure, it'd have plenty of nutrients, no? I mean wild cubes grow on manure:shrug:





They do. I wouldn't call it plenty of nutrients. More like enough to support a few fruits. There is a reason we use grain and high spawn ratios.


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