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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Are these Chantarelles
#22264577 - 09/20/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are these Chants? Found upstate NY
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FryersQuest
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I would say so.
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N05482
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I don't think so... They don't have the false gills, but everything else is so close. The main reason I'd say no too is that your in ny, I don't think they grow there.
Could be wrong wait for a ti, I'd be interested in finding out what they are though.
Maybe cut one in half and take some more pics
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: Are these Chantarelles [Re: N05482]
#22264686 - 09/20/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive found and eaten them in ny numerous times. Im not in the city

Also the false gills are there just not as pronounced as others i have found
Edited by MollyLucyMaryJane (09/20/15 12:40 PM)
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N05482
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K so based on that pic I'd say definitely not chants. Weird hollow part and top look completely wrong. But from a distance I could see mistaking them easily.
But I'm a west coast guy so they're could be a species or variety I'm unfamiliar with in N.Y.
Hope a ti nails it down. Wonder if those grow out here too, I thought Jack o lanterns were the only chant look alike.
What's the texture like? Stringy meat like chants?
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Edited by N05482 (09/20/15 12:51 PM)
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: Are these Chantarelles [Re: N05482]
#22264820 - 09/20/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They look identical to chants to me except for the false gills not being as pronounced as normal. Ive had chants with a bit of the inside hollowed out and there is no lookalikes in ny or anywhere really that resemble these and have false gills. They are definitely not false chants or jack o lants. And if not those or chants then maybe ive found a new sp of mushroom 
The texture is stringy and the smell is somewhat fruity
Im no professional but i only posted these on here for reassurance. I would have just eaten them im so sure. I can always be wrong though. Better safe than sorry. If more people are unsure i will toss them.
Edited by MollyLucyMaryJane (09/20/15 01:04 PM)
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N05482
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I'm super stoked you posted em it may just be a unique morphological characteristic of that patch, everything looks and sounds so right but just seems off a lil in every way.
Enough so I would have posted them before eating them.
Might be infected with a parasitic fungus like a lobster the texture in the close up is reminiscent, or perhaps it is a new variety!
Whatever the case cool find!
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: Are these Chantarelles [Re: N05482]
#22265060 - 09/20/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks man im sure theyre just chants but i agree definitely a patch to post. Ive never seen chants with such hard to see gills and ive never looked in this area before either. Not my usual spot. It is kinda late in the season for them so maybe that is contributing to the strange features?
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mountainplayer
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Looks like Turbinellus sp (used to be Gomphus). Scaly chanterelle.
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Im very doubtful that they are turbinellus sp.
I even tasted these and they have the same peppery taste as chanterelles. Thanks for the input but im going to wait for a TI before i eat/toss these. Ive been trying to find some chants all summer since i moved to this not spot not gonna give up easy
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The gills look all wrong man. It should have very clear vein like strands going up and down it
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Quote:
Rebelutionsssss said: The gills look all wrong man. It should have very clear vein like strands going up and down it
Yea thats why i posted em. Any ideas on what sp they could be then?
Oh and as a side note the young ones had very clear easy to see false gills with round caps.
Edited by MollyLucyMaryJane (09/20/15 03:09 PM)
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N05482
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I think mountainplayer is right.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbinellus_floccosus
Looks just like what you got. I had no idea these existed, they should be listed with chant info if they're supposed poisonous look a like. Most references only mention Jack o lanterns.
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: Are these Chantarelles [Re: N05482]
#22265617 - 09/20/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have to disagree that it looks exactly like what i have. Quite the contrary. Pictures dont do much justice but looking at the specifics of the turbinellus sp nothing matches up. Looks/odor/taste nothings similar between my mushrooms and these.
Also wikipedia sais they appear frequently in western united states but not very common in the east and im in NY. Also these werent found in coniferous woods as turbinellus sp are. There were no pine trees around
This is from wikipedia (as reliable as that is...) The fungus appears to form ectomycorrhizal relationships with various conifers including Douglas-fir (Pseudotsuga), fir (Abies), Pine (Pinus) and Western Hemlock (Tsuga heterophylla). Fruiting bodies may be found in coniferous forests in North America, particularly the western states in late summer and autumn. They are most abundant in rainy parts of the Pacific Northwest.
Very skeptical that these are a turbinellus sp.
Edited by MollyLucyMaryJane (09/20/15 04:02 PM)
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N05482
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Based on the morphology of your specimens especially the gills and void in the cross section they seem to fit better in the turbinellus category.
These look very similar to yours. pic
Take some more pics and wait for a ti, you may have made an unprecedented find for your area and may be able to enter your findings in a journal.
I just gotta go with my gut on this one and say definitely not chants.
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Re: Are these Chantarelles [Re: N05482]
#22265952 - 09/20/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That pic does resemble mine alot more other than the tubular trumpet like shape but like i said before turbinellus is symbiotic with pine trees and there wasnt a pine anywhere around. I am also questioning that they are chanterelles but they sure do resemble them.
Taste - peppery/mushroomy Odor - not distinctive/mushroomy Spore print - unknown Habitat - on a forest trail in upstate ny growing near hardwoods mostly maple/beech; numerous patches growing in clusters of 3-6.
Some had green mold along the margin of the cap The young mushrooms had obvious false gills unlike the mature ones. They also had perfectly round caps.
When i get home i will take more photos.
Edited by MollyLucyMaryJane (09/20/15 05:09 PM)
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Thayendanegea
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They are chanterelles...gomphus if they were found under conifers.
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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Quote:
Thayendanegea said: They are chanterelles...gomphus if they were found under conifers.
There wasnt even a pine tree in sight.
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MollyLucyMaryJane

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So should i eat or toss these? Ive been told theyre poisonous and ive been told theyre chanterelles... Makes it kind of hard to eat something when all of the answers conflict with eachother.
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Thayendanegea
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they are good to eat...they look similar to some I find and are delicious.
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