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danhowitt
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Animals tripping?
#22264570 - 09/20/15 12:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hiya is providing animals a weight appropriate [scaled way down) amount of natural psychedelic ok? Ramember the Bear movie when the tiny bear ate the shrooms? just wondering what people think?
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: danhowitt]
#22266396 - 09/20/15 06:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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danhowitt said: Hiya is providing animals a weight appropriate [scaled way down) amount of natural psychedelic ok? Ramember the Bear movie when the tiny bear ate the shrooms? just wondering what people think?
I don't know what to say. I will say this: I have a little dog. I would never give her mushrooms, lsd, kratom, alcohol,not even caffeine. Never.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: champinhom]
#22266433 - 09/20/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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An animal has no way to prepare for a psychedelic experience, and no conception of "drugs" and this would likely cause them extreme emotional pain. Absolutely and completely unethical.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: FractalMind] 1
#22266613 - 09/20/15 07:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Many animals do drugs all the time in the wild, but I don't think it'd be best to dose an animal, because it doesn't know.
However, I've had my parrot bite into a salvia leaf, and she was actng weird for about 5-10 minutes. She was acting sweeter then usual and making kissy noises at everything her beak touched. She was stumbling around a bit too. And then she bit me and acted normal again.(She's usually pretty aggressive in my room, and sometimes just wants to bite anything there, it's her "room")
But tons of animals do drugs. I've heard stories of mice getting into a bag full of dried mushrooms and them having no fear towards the person. They were also squeaking a bunch and playing together happily. Cows will consume cubensis during mushroom season since they grow where they'll usually eat at(although it might be completely accidental). Reindeer will eat Amanita Muscaria. Cats like catnip. Horses can get extremely addicted to locoweed.
Some birds get addicted to a narcotic buzz from rubbing smeared ants on them. Jaguar will consume ayahuasca vine often enough to be noticed by humans. Dolphins will take small amounts of blowfish poison. Certain monkeys will at millipedes, and their venom gets them intoxicated. Hell, elephants can become alcoholics, and take iboga often and for a long time. Adult elephants have even been seen teaching new adult elephants to take iboga.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: FractalMind]
#22266667 - 09/20/15 07:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ramember the Bear movie when the tiny bear ate the shrooms?
Yea man, Amanitas... we watched that over and over haha his tripping face tripped our tripping faces out.
I agree with FractalMind. In nature it's different since your dog probly trusts you to eat out of your hand any given "snack" without any question.
But then there's the cat that always comes around when you smoke to have you shotgun it...
But a shotgun of weed does not a mindfuck make.
But what about ancient man and dog; wouldn't he give his dog some trippy mushrooms?
Probably happened. Would that have been wrong?
Dog may have left, scared and mistrusting.
Respect your dog.
I shouldn't even advocate a few microdoses to first test the waters and start to let the dog build an association with the mushrooms and effects; so in the future the dog could decide on her own when/if/the amount to eat of them...
only if one insists on "providing"...
TLDR: It could be cruel and ruin your relationship with your dog.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: flickedbic]
#22266892 - 09/20/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you for the help and replies.
Is catnip a psychedelic? In humans does it have an effect? Prolly not right? Otherwise people would take it prolly. Trips cats out right?
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: danhowitt]
#22267022 - 09/20/15 08:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Catnip isn't a psychedelic for people, but it does have effects. It's a slight to medium buzz for about about 30-60 seconds. But I wouldn't know how cats react to it...
But they do seem to be tripped out by it. Or at least really, really high.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: Achillita]
#22267750 - 09/21/15 12:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry Achillita I missed it --- you already spoke bout catnip in your earlier post. Tks for the thorough info.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: danhowitt]
#22267767 - 09/21/15 12:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No problem hope I helped.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: Achillita]
#22323853 - 10/02/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do cat's really trip on catnip? How does anyone know?
A new product has come out called Dognip. Anyone know what it is made of?
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: danhowitt]
#22323865 - 10/02/15 01:50 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It pretty much makes them stoned. I guess its a "trip". But it's all subjective.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: Achillita]
#22324178 - 10/02/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Different topic. ?Hope Ok?
Have you ever be around a person who fakes a psychadedlic expeirence? It's like they want to be a part of things. Is this fakery or bogusery. Or are they just enjoying the trips of other people?
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: danhowitt]
#22324207 - 10/02/15 03:04 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's people trying to fit in... especially if they're a noob to psyches. But I'd make a new thread if you wanna make a new discussion You'll get better responses that way.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: Achillita]
#22632350 - 12/08/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Srry for my post, should never never be done on any anmials. Just abusive. I wondered at first but then realized, Even catnip is abusive. We shouldnt do that to them! Any person who gives any animal any mind altering substance is abusive.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: danhowitt]
#22632930 - 12/09/15 05:17 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Primates and marsupials will eat rotten fruit willingly to get drunk. They even seek it out. I think i read it's why hyenas laugh.
Maybe the dog already thinks you're cruel for not sharing.. Maybe after the canine has an accidental microdose it starts displaying interest in whatever you gave him.
Or maybe the dog doesnt realize that something it ate is causing the effects?
Maybe the dogs intelligence will skyrocket and it'll start drinking from the kitchen faucet, and flipping through channels. Turing off lights and opening doors.
Seem absurd? So is wasting good stuff on an animal.
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Re: Animals tripping? (newby dan howitt, first post) [Re: MajorDick]
#22633977 - 12/09/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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My parrot actively seeks out my salvia plant to consume the leaves. I didn't show her this, but she discovered it on her own.
It's really not abusive, because these are behaviors that many animals will do on their own in the wild. Many, many animals seek to consue drugs.
What is abusive is actively drugging your animal.(Like feeding your dog mushrooms).
Because you gotta realize something. We are animals. On any base level or want, we do the exact same things as nearly every single mammal. The want for altered consiousness isn't a human trait. So many animals will seek out substances for an altered consiousness.
But no, catnip isn't abusive
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Re: Animals tripping? dan howitt [Re: Achillita]
#22648926 - 12/13/15 05:24 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow ok i didn't know all this wohoa. so they see on their own. but is it still good 4 them?? peps people see drugs on their own and overdo it, alcholoks, but doesn't mean it's good 4 them?
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Re: Animals tripping? dan howitt [Re: danhowitt]
#22650257 - 12/13/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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danhowitt said: Hiya is providing animals a weight appropriate [scaled way down) amount of natural psychedelic ok? Ramember the Bear movie when the tiny bear ate the shrooms? just wondering what people think?
What animal are you trying to dose? Your family dog?
You shouldnt dose any animal, ever. Thats not fair to them. Why would you want to do this anyways?
Dose yourself and leave the animals be.
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Re: Animals tripping? dan howitt [Re: ak47myth]
#22651390 - 12/13/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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danhowitt said: Hiya is providing animals a weight appropriate [scaled way down) amount of natural psychedelic ok? Ramember the Bear movie when the tiny bear ate the shrooms? just wondering what people think?
What animal are you trying to dose? Your family dog?
You shouldnt dose any animal, ever. Thats not fair to them. Why would you want to do this anyways?
Dose yourself and leave the animals be.
check my last post
Edited by danhowitt (12/16/15 07:49 AM)
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Re: Animals tripping? dan howitt [Re: danhowitt]
#22944272 - 02/25/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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danhowitt said:
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ak47myth said:
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danhowitt said: Hiya is providing animals a weight appropriate [scaled way down) amount of natural psychedelic ok? Ramember the Bear movie when the tiny bear ate the shrooms? just wondering what people think?
What animal are you trying to dose? Your family dog?
You shouldnt dose any animal, ever. Thats not fair to them. Why would you want to do this anyways?
Dose yourself and leave the animals be.
check
I agree, just wanted to be sure to say it.
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