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thelanzii

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attention brah
apparently being connected in a group is the suicide limiter
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Fletcher


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What?
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thelanzii

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the godfathers of sociology found that being part of something greater than yourself limits suicide rates significantly
people also do it for attention
some people don't have much to live for
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Did the godfathers of sociology contemplate that we may not exist outside of our own mind? How can you be part of something greater than yourself when all that you are is the experience of your own consciousness?
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thelanzii

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being a mammal connected to other mammals seems to be a consciousness experience that helps people not kill themselves
the study was between the two major religions at the time one had strong conformity and far less suicides the other the opposite
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But what if you can't feel that connection no matter how hard you try? It gets complicated too when you mix in depression because it blunts your feelings. You either feel sad, enraged, or absolutely nothing.
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thelanzii

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its definitely not a foolproof method
community/interdepence is a trait of mammals
a kid who i thought was a major dick killed himself from my town a while back
he was typical jock tall priveleged white kid from a wealthy good home with a hot girlfriend
dude blew his head off at 22
i don't think its possible to fully explain the reasoning behind suicide though
everything is impermanent which has been my fallback dark times
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Almond Flour said: Why do some people actually attempt suicide? I mean, is life really that fucking bad? I've been through some dark ass corners of life, abused physically and psychologically....lost all hope and in poverty, but it never seriously crossed my mind.
Why is it some folks try to go this route?
To get away from people like you.
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CookieCrumbs
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Nemmies said: its definitely not a foolproof method
community/interdepence is a trait of mammals
a kid who i thought was a major dick killed himself from my town a while back
he was typical jock tall priveleged white kid from a wealthy good home with a hot girlfriend
dude blew his head off at 22
i don't think its possible to fully explain the reasoning behind suicide though
everything is impermanent which has been my fallback dark times
The rationale behind suicide is something you can't really understand unless you've walked down that dark path yourself.
Still we all have our own paths and I don't think anyone in this world is truly capable of understanding another human being completely.
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CookieCrumbs said:
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Almond Flour said: Why do some people actually attempt suicide? I mean, is life really that fucking bad? I've been through some dark ass corners of life, abused physically and psychologically....lost all hope and in poverty, but it never seriously crossed my mind.
Why is it some folks try to go this route?
To get away from people like you.
What do you mean by that? What is it about me that would cause someone to want to end it all?
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People commit suicide because they perceive it as a solution. Usually there life is full of times where they can't find a solution for something and then they resort to finding their own solution, suicide.
I know alan watts has a long ass lecture on how suicide isn't ethically wrong and what not. I honestly didn't like it, considering I like almost all his work. Some speculate he killed himself too and by the way he praised it I wouldn't be surprised.
This kid we knew in high school shot himself in the heart because he got caught with a buncha rolls while on probation and then his girlfriend broke up with him. It was pretty sad but he came from a really shitty household and his mom didn't give two fucks about him. Actually tried to profit off his death by starting a shirt company. Pretty sad. His girlfriend was ruined for life because of that shit and last time I saw her was a mugshot of her doped the fuck up on heroin.
Suicide can really affect anyone. Look at Robin Williams dude was idolized and a millionaire. He had it all but he hung himself with a fucking belt. So fucked up. Dude was a comedic genius.
I really think depression and other mental illnesses play a huge part in suicide. I know alcoholics are really prone to suicide. The lack of inhibition and added gaba imbalance seems to push them over the edge.
If you ever see commercials for GABAergic drugs it almost always says increased risk of suicide as a side effect so it must have to be a GABA imbalance. Not going to lie I've had some weird feelings from etizolam but never did I come close to thinking about suicide.
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Depression and mental issues play a huge part in suicide? Go figure..
Alan Watts preyed on the minds of the weak and eventually drank himself to death, and Robin Williams had undiagnosed dementia.
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Just know, that sometimes enough is enough. Count it a blessing you haven't yet been shown how to understand that yet at this point.
As far as Robin Williams goes, I hear he was also diagnosed with Parkinson's and I can't imagine anyone who has the knowledge of how that can play out, not at least considering suicide as a very serious option now at hand.
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Fletcher


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*Lewy Body Dementia
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Gorlax



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I know he was an alcoholic and was traumatized when John Belushi died partying with him. as far as him having parkinsons disease. Many alcoholics get misdiagnosed with this from withdrawals. They really don't have it the symptoms of withdrawal just mimic it.
He was a severely depressed alcoholic. I used to listen to him on the howard stern show all the time.
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Re: Suicide? [Re: Gorlax]
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It thought he had been sober for awhile, removing a misdiagnosis from the equasion. I'm sure given the history, it would be brought up with his doctor if he was sharply withdrawling from alcohol.
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Re: Suicide? [Re: Gorlax]
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LBD is much more complicated than Parkinson's. He was having hallucinations before he offed himself.
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Gorlax



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Well if you ever came off benzos or alcohol you have hallucinations. When i quit the tiz I woke up and thought I kept hearing someone at my door and it was nothing. that shit really tripped me out.
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Amanita86
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LBD, never heard of it. I wasnt sure what you were saying there. Is that what it was?
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